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[Adventurer]

Dulouz, there is a huge difference between black people of the United States and people from certain countries of Africa. Ethiopia once used to be a propserous country (now it is not obviously) and so did Ghana. It is true most are relatively poor but many are peaceful such as the Senegal. So if all black people are the same as you are hinting at even on a general level then explain why the Senegalese who are largely related to the ancestors of the slaves who came to America? Many African Americans descend from slaves taken from Senegal and Gambia. They are not in the same kind of shape as Zimbabwe. I was just looking at Botswana and it does much better than so many African states. African countries didn't have the same river civilizations of the people of Mesopotamia, Europe, Meso-America, or China. It was harder to form cities. You are simply writing off African Americans. What is needed in America is promoting education in America, working hard in schools, cracking down on truants, cracking down on terrorist organizations called gangs, stemming the flow of illegal immigration and replacing it with legal immigration. Racism is not the answer, sound economic policies and bridge building are needed. Also, don't forget there used to be a town called Rosewood which was called the "Black Wall Street". That clearly shows the community is extremely far from where it could be.




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[dulouz]

Yea OK whatever. I'm outta there now, its no longer my problem. Those are some good exceptions you stated but tomarrow when I read my local newspaper online, its gonna focus on the achievment gap in American schools and not on Botswana. Regardless, if I acquiesce I'll just get hit up for slavery reparations and violent crime.

[Junior]

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[Big_Bird]

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[Big_Bird]

[SPINOZA]

There's no need to shoot the gangs. State provision of hard drugs will eliminate the entire motivation behind gangsterism and save the all-important, God-like creature - the state purse - billions.

The people I'd shoot are the people who preserve the status quo - pretty much the common man.

Drug prohibition + guns' relative legality is the worst possible combination. Drug prohibition + gun prohibition is the second worst. The best combination is state provision of drugs to addicts and gun prohibition. Sadly for the US, we're a bit too late with the guns I suspect. They're too much a part of the culture to just remove. But with removing prohibition, you'd remove most of those 34,000 gun deaths per annum.

The bizarre thing is.....the combination of pro-gun and pro-prohibitionist person isn't some weird bunch of folks on the fringes of society like feminists or Muslim extremists......these people are commoners. They're as numerous as lice and every bit as parasitic. This is the majority view possibly in the US? In Europe the vast majority of common people won't be pro-guns but will support maintaining the illegality of heroin.

They are an extortionate disease on society. When I see a pro-gun/drug prohibitionist person, I just think of that notorious German expression unfortunately used against the Jews.....der untermensch. The inferior herd of humanity strangulate our future and I'm not that confident that we won't be having the same conversations about prohibition and crime in 30 years time.

[SPINOZA]

[Neil]

[dulouz]

Junior, make sure you don't get deep with the native bit. Eventually you'll have to say White people = Europe, yellow People = Asia et al.

The problem with calling Latinos natives is that they aren't. The tribes and the US gov't have kept accurate records about who belongs to tribes and who doesn't. The tribes watch their membership closely and none of these immigrants have tribal membership. Our natives don't like outsiders even more than the Koreans.

[ChimpumCallao]

[SPINOZA]

I�m not sure I want to address the issue of guns in isolation from their combination with illegal drugs, CC. I�ll give you my trivial opinion quickly�.I do probably favour gun prohibition for the simple reason that I feel I�m statistically less likely to be shot in a country where there are fewer guns around. However, gun prohibition is less straightforward (fewer per capita burglaries in the US than in Canada and Denmark...just one example), since there exists no evidence to my knowledge that universal gun ownership, in the absence of drug prohibition, would not be entirely healthy. But in a drug prohibitionist society, it�s a less dreadful state of affairs with easier access to guns removed from the equation, I feel. It�s dreadful enough without loads of guns around (see embarrassing crime stats in Europe and Australia as proof) but guns just make it worse.

My issue is with the legal guns-with-illegal drugs combination. I do see an obvious moral distinction between ending drug prohibition and maintaining gun prohibition and think it�s a mistake to view drug antiprohibitionists as having to support gun antiprohibitionism. Some things should be straightforwardly not illegal and excessively expensive, other things less straightforwardly so. I cannot say with certainty that I believe guns should be prohibited, but it is straightforwardly the case that drug prohibition should end this minute.

I reckon if people want to own a gun legally, drug prohibition must go. The desire, the compulsion in some, to own a gun and protect one�s self is heightened considerably by the dangerous conditions the drug prohibition-gun legality combination brings! If we can possibly leave aside the difference in culture between northwestern Europe and the US, the former is full of drugs and crime, but France�s, Germany�s, the UK�s, Netherlands� murder numbers (and per capita murders with firearms) are nowhere near the US and nor is any culturally similar country. However, rather than reflecting badly on the US system of gun ownership, it reflects badly on the guns-drugs combination there.

[SPINOZA]

[ChimpumCallao]