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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| I'm amazed that of all the crap on that site and that thred, everyone has the most problem with CC saying we need driver's licenses. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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I've been a poster on AF for well over two years now. When I started it was nothing like the battleground it can be now. And still most threads are devoted to pop culture or other fluff topics, which is what it was always intended for anyway.
Anyway, it's hardly as if Dave's has no keyboard warriors... how about that current events forum? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
I've been a poster on AF for well over two years now. When I started it was nothing like the battleground it can be now. And still most threads are devoted to pop culture or other fluff topics, which is what it was always intended for anyway.
Anyway, it's hardly as if Dave's has no keyboard warriors... how about that current events forum? |
That's why we have the current events forum  TO keep them away. But even BigVerne didn't hit as hard as some of them on that site. I am sorry, but that site is much worse than this one for stupidity and immaturity (though you do have to take in account they are teens and we are mostly university educated grads ). |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think anyone's suggesting that having, or not having, a driver's licence is a one stop background check, but CC was suggesting that having one indicates a degree of responsibility. |
It does.
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| Other posters here have pointed out it doesn't indicate anything of the sort, |
No, they've pointed out that the reverse is not true.
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At best it's a line of questioning that you can follow to delve into an applicant's background. Just why they don't have a licence?
Maybe that's what CC is getting at? |
Which is exactly what I said earlier..
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| I've met plenty of people who don't have a licence, and have perfectly good reasons for this. |
See above. You're talking about the reverse again. 'Specious reasoning', you say. hehe.. |
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Bondrock
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Location: ^_^
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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i posted the thread link because i wanted to draw attention to the immature and innacurate portrayals that are found on some forums...
people like CC are entitled to their opinions. let's stop bashing him just because we may disagree.
this thread was not intended to be another endless squabble where we turn on each other...
CC's post was probably misinterpreted... driver's licenses/ or the lack of, can sometimes indicate a level of responsibility... sometimes...
a lack of a license could also indicate a criminal record, such as impaired driving, although i doubt if most Korean hakwans really care... but many uni jobs are asking for criminal background checks, as are pubic schools....
to me, the background check is preferable to the drivers' license check...
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Bondrock wrote: |
i posted the thread link because i wanted to draw attention to the immature and innacurate portrayals that are found on some forums...
people like CC are entitled to their opinions. let's stop bashing him just because we may disagree.
this thread was not intended to be another endless squabble where we turn on each other...
CC's post was probably misinterpreted... driver's licenses/ or the lack of, can sometimes indicate a level of responsibility... sometimes...
a lack of a license could also indicate a criminal record, such as impaired driving, although i doubt if most Korean hakwans really care... but many uni jobs are asking for criminal background checks, as are pubic schools....
to me, the background check is preferable to the drivers' license check...
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It seems that most of the civil people got where I was going with it.
When limited in your questions and available information, you try other ways.
Remember people, this whole "requesting criminal background checks" is a fairly new thing to coming over here. 5-10 years ago it was basically unheard of.
I think that most of the peopl wanting to "come at me" over the Driver's thing did not read the other thread in its entirety. After having read the whole thing, you still feel my comments are out of line... well, so be it.
But at least read it first. |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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This thread http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=108751 was interesting....well not interesting enough to read to the end, it's complaining about westerners being too obsessive in their interests about Japanese culture (basically thinly veiled envy from Koreans that westerners are informed about Japan but would stuggle to locate Korea on a map).
Anyway one time I encountered the opposite, in London sitting outside a cafe I met a young Japanese women who was wearing a sherlock holmes costume, smoking a pipe and reading a copy of the London A-Z.
Thought it was pretty cool, certainly didn't feel like whining about it on the internet unlike the chaps at AF. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Bondrock wrote: |
i posted the thread link because i wanted to draw attention to the immature and innacurate portrayals that are found on some forums...
people like CC are entitled to their opinions. let's stop bashing him just because we may disagree.
this thread was not intended to be another endless squabble where we turn on each other...
CC's post was probably misinterpreted... driver's licenses/ or the lack of, can sometimes indicate a level of responsibility... sometimes...
a lack of a license could also indicate a criminal record, such as impaired driving, although i doubt if most Korean hakwans really care... but many uni jobs are asking for criminal background checks, as are pubic schools....
to me, the background check is preferable to the drivers' license check...
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Only in the eyes of a 16 year old who just got his driver's license...which probably describes the average poster at that site. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Bondrock wrote: |
i posted the thread link because i wanted to draw attention to the immature and innacurate portrayals that are found on some forums...
people like CC are entitled to their opinions. let's stop bashing him just because we may disagree.
this thread was not intended to be another endless squabble where we turn on each other...
CC's post was probably misinterpreted... driver's licenses/ or the lack of, can sometimes indicate a level of responsibility... sometimes...
a lack of a license could also indicate a criminal record, such as impaired driving, although i doubt if most Korean hakwans really care... but many uni jobs are asking for criminal background checks, as are pubic schools....
to me, the background check is preferable to the drivers' license check...
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Only in the eyes of a 16 year old who just got his driver's license...which probably describes the average poster at that site. |
Ok, what percentage of North American adults do you think have a Drivers License? |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Only in the eyes of a 16 year old who just got his driver's license...which probably describes the average poster at that site. |
dude you're still not getting the fact that it was Captain Corea who first brought that up, huh? Maybe you should check out a thread before commenting on it?
Something weird I wanted to point out was that Ssangohchil fella referring to English teachers as ventriloquists. I'm assuming he means it as an analogy and doesn't actually believe that most foreign EFL teachers in Korea can speak without moving their lips, but good god what the hell kind of analogy is that? It's like some dude trying to rip you off on a price and you call him an accountant.. wtf, you ask? Yeah, exactly. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Something weird I wanted to point out was that Ssangohchil fella referring to English teachers as ventriloquists. I'm assuming he means it as an analogy and doesn't actually believe that most foreign EFL teachers in Korea can speak without moving their lips, but good god what the hell kind of analogy is that? It's like some dude trying to rip you off on a price and you call him an accountant.. wtf, you ask? Yeah, exactly. |
I think what he means is that English teachers are more like ventriloquist's dummies, merely reciting lines so the kids can copy their pronunciation. Like the people on TV.
They also refer on that site to foreign EFL teachers as 'ABC teachers' as if all we did was teach the alphabet.
They don't really know anything about it. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Only in the eyes of a 16 year old who just got his driver's license...which probably describes the average poster at that site. |
dude you're still not getting the fact that it was Captain Corea who first brought that up, huh? Maybe you should check out a thread before commenting on it?
Something weird I wanted to point out was that Ssangohchil fella referring to English teachers as ventriloquists. I'm assuming he means it as an analogy and doesn't actually believe that most foreign EFL teachers in Korea can speak without moving their lips, but good god what the hell kind of analogy is that? It's like some dude trying to rip you off on a price and you call him an accountant.. wtf, you ask? Yeah, exactly. |
There are a lot of people commenting here without having actually read the thread there.
The truth is, that forum is a lot like this one.
You've got some decent people.
Some people you don't agree with but they make decent arguments.
Some people that you hope would never be part of your real life.
And a whole lotta' socks. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Qinella wrote: |
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| Only in the eyes of a 16 year old who just got his driver's license...which probably describes the average poster at that site. |
dude you're still not getting the fact that it was Captain Corea who first brought that up, huh? Maybe you should check out a thread before commenting on it?
Something weird I wanted to point out was that Ssangohchil fella referring to English teachers as ventriloquists. I'm assuming he means it as an analogy and doesn't actually believe that most foreign EFL teachers in Korea can speak without moving their lips, but good god what the hell kind of analogy is that? It's like some dude trying to rip you off on a price and you call him an accountant.. wtf, you ask? Yeah, exactly. |
There are a lot of people commenting here without having actually read the thread there.
The truth is, that forum is a lot like this one.
You've got some decent people.
Some people you don't agree with but they make decent arguments.
Some people that you hope would never be part of your real life.
And a whole lotta' socks. |
Seems like something pretty arrogant to say, don't you think?
And yeah, I read the thread. My comment stands. A driver's license as proof of someone being responsible? You don't drive much, do you? I see evidence that many drivers are irresponsible everyday. |
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