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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
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| ...and I went toe-to-toe with the Sales Manager when he made an unsolicited comment about my rear. |
ok, i need to ask, have u ever had a solicited comment about your rear?
"Excuse me sir, say something about my ass, please."
or maybe in a meeting with the top administrators...
"Ok people, listen up. The topic...my ass. Talk amongst yourselves and come up with something. Go."
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don't blame me, im bored. |
LOL.. mmm let me see.. item 6 on the agenda is ..yes 'my ass'
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storysinger81
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
ok, i need to ask, have u ever had a solicited comment about your rear?
"Excuse me sir, say something about my ass, please."
or maybe in a meeting with the top administrators...
"Ok people, listen up. The topic...my ass. Talk amongst yourselves and come up with something. Go."
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Isn't that what those pants/shorts with the words across the bum are for?
I really started laughing though because my 16 year old sister might actually say something like the second one among her friends. Ten years, world of difference. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| storysinger81 wrote: |
| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
ok, i need to ask, have u ever had a solicited comment about your rear?
"Excuse me sir, say something about my ass, please."
or maybe in a meeting with the top administrators...
"Ok people, listen up. The topic...my ass. Talk amongst yourselves and come up with something. Go."
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Isn't that what those pants/shorts with the words across the bum are for?
I really started laughing though because my 16 year old sister might actually say something like the second one among her friends. Ten years, world of difference. |
I had to throw in the word "unsolicited" because it's part of the definition of sexual harassment. I wasn't wiggling it at him. I didn't send him a diagram with an arrow and the words "Do you like it? Check yes or no." I didn't sigh and say "Oh, these pants make my rump look just atrocious." So, yeah, I'll have to admit, I've never had a solicited comment about my ass in the workplace. However, sometimes I post pictures of it on babygotback.com for comments and Paypal requests. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Man I must be really broken. |
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jangsalgida
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| haha...and usually it is male expats in Korea complaining about how white women don't bother to make themselves sexy...and that's why these poor guys are forced to fly half way across the world to Korea, where ladies still wear short skirts and stiletto heels. Nice one jinju. |
stiletto heels? What part of Korea are you living or where exactly do you see this? |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Women focus on looking sexy, guys had better focus on making lots of money.
Both sexes are equally mercenary when it comes to landing a winner...  |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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The sexualization (is that a word?) go hand in hand with capitalism and especially consumerism.
Most economies are based on the materialism of their citizens. Women love to shop and acquire things. Men understand that often the easiest way to get into a womans pants is through purchasing good and "supporting" the females they lust for. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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| The question is, why is the woman's solution to suddenly be a catty biatch to the new, younger hire? If she has a problem with the way she's being treated professionally, then she should get a pair of brass ones and speak up. Why should we shoulder the blame? |
Where are you getting this information?
I was a nubile 19-year-old working with three middle-aged ladies at a Volvo dealership, and they were lovely to me, even though I drew the majority of the sexual harassment. They might have been relieved that they didn't have to put up with as much creepiness when I arrived.
Incidentally, I did speak up. I had some help sorting out the Service Manager for repeatedly whacking me on the ass with a file even when I asked him not to, and I went toe-to-toe with the Sales Manager when he made an unsolicited comment about my rear. |
Yeah, not sure if mindmetoo is trolling here. If he's not, he's a silly tw@t. Some women are catty to other women, sure. But so many others are not. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| haha...and usually it is male expats in Korea complaining about how white women don't bother to make themselves sexy...and that's why these poor guys are forced to fly half way across the world to Korea, where ladies still wear short skirts and stiletto heels. Nice one jinju. |
stiletto heels? What part of Korea are you living or where exactly do you see this? |
I take it you're living on a farm? |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Carmy wrote: |
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| It's interesting to think back on how I've been dressed when I've met particular men. I actually think (anecdotally) that I've hooked up with a better quality of man when I've been dressed casually, no make up and what have you. That's possibly because it's largely been my personality that's attracted them in those instances. Whenever I was dressed up really sexily - short skirt, much cleavage, sexy hair and make up - I attracted more men, but that included plenty of bozos to boot. |
What were the age group of these men that were attracted to you whilst dressed casually?
Do you think it could be an age thing? Younger men like the sexier/fleshier look? |
I didn't notice it being an age thing. Perhaps older men do learn to be less shallow. But I do recall hooking up with some very hot young men who'd only seen me in plain clothing and no make up. |
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Canuck Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
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| Canuck Teacher wrote: |
ok, i need to ask, have u ever had a solicited comment about your rear?
"Excuse me sir, say something about my ass, please."
or maybe in a meeting with the top administrators...
"Ok people, listen up. The topic...my ass. Talk amongst yourselves and come up with something. Go."
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Isn't that what those pants/shorts with the words across the bum are for?
I really started laughing though because my 16 year old sister might actually say something like the second one among her friends. Ten years, world of difference. |
I had to throw in the word "unsolicited" because it's part of the definition of sexual harassment. I wasn't wiggling it at him. I didn't send him a diagram with an arrow and the words "Do you like it? Check yes or no." I didn't sigh and say "Oh, these pants make my rump look just atrocious." So, yeah, I'll have to admit, I've never had a solicited comment about my ass in the workplace. However, sometimes I post pictures of it on babygotback.com for comments and Paypal requests. |
All of a sudden, i have a burning ring of desire to be a proctologist. |
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Yes
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: outskirts of busan
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Sadly, it comes down to more than vanity and insecurity. It's about economic power, social standing, and plain ol' human worth in the eyes of others.
If a woman isn't hot, some guys act as if it's an offense, as if it's her responsibility to be good-looking. I wish I could remember the exact words of a Dave's poster who expressed that sentiment a while ago, in a sort of outrage about the homeliness of the woman he was describing.
I'd argue that in some cases, it's pressure put upon women to conform to a certain notion of beauty, but there are also women who aren't sure how to assert themselves as capable, intelligent human beings so they resort to getting noticed by simply highlighting their sexuality. Lame, but it works. |
wow, extremely well-said. totally right on, in my opinion. isn't that an amazing phenomenon, when they act resentful if a woman is unattractive? it's even worse in other countries around the world where women have fewer rights. i've seen it absolutely crush girls' and womens' spirits. it's all about control. but that's gender socialization for you-- another attempt by society to exert an illusion of control over the uncontrollable chaos that is life itself. |
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pdx
Joined: 19 Jan 2007
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Two of my K-students are studying in the USA for a year. Before they left, I gave them my MSN chat address and e-mail if they happened to have questions. I saw one online once, and asked how it was going. The 3rd student joined in the conversation.
One of them told me, "The American girls dress so plain, but when they go out on Friday night, they dress in very sexy clothes they are fat for, and shouldn't be wearing."
I kid you not -- that's exactly how she worded it. The other student agreed. |
This is so true. My friend and I were just talking about how nice it will be to go back to America and not feel like a total bum for wearing a tshirt and jeans to the store. I mean- I feel underdressed every day. It makes me uncomfortable. Of course, not uncomfortable enough to change it. There's no way I'd dress as the Koreans do.
As for the fat clothes- that's true, too. I'm a bigger girl, but I know what I absolutely should not wear. There's some sort of phenomenon with fat girls are shirts that show off their chub. It weirds me out. I might be the same size as those girls but I know better than to wear those clothes (my mom's response: "because you were raised better than that!")... I know nobody wants to see that.
As for being so sexy- it's quite obvious: the sexier and prettier a girl is the more attention she gets. And girls really like attention. I mean.. they really, really like it. They also like one-upping each other. The male/female types of competition and showmanship are very different. I also agree with what it means for status and social standing, etc. People are always judged firsthand on what they look like- but it's definitely a little more biased for girls. Guys can be chubby and ugly, but can still get by on charm and humor. You know the sitcoms with the big husband and the cute, skinny wife? Yeah. The guy can be whatever he wants, but the the idea is that the girl must always be attractive. Like somebody else said- it's expected.
Ha. Not fair! I want to be able to get by on my intelligence and sense of humor! |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| As a whole, I think Korean girls DO dress better than the white girls here. I love the styles here though, and I wear them. That's why I get attention from the Korean guys here. But, I have noticed a slobazation in Korea. I see many slobby Korean girls compared to the when I first came here in 1999. |
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oneofthesarahs
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Girls should be able to be slobby sometimes if they want to. I'm all for looking your best when you're at work or going out to dinner or whatever, but if I'm running to the supermarket three blocks away to buy orange juice, I'll be damned if I'm going to put on makeup and fix my hair all up.
One of my friends in college wouldn't go ANYWHERE without makeup. I once asked her to go with me to Quick Trip to get gas and a soda. She wasn't even planning on getting out of the car and it took her ten minutes to get ready....just in case someone she knew saw her. At like 4 in the morning. She also wore makeup while working out.
Some girls take it too far. I think a lot of it has to do with insecurity. Most girls are afraid to be who they are, so they are what everyone else tells them they should be. Eff that. I eschew 4 a.m. makeup and dressing up to work out. |
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