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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: What would you take in lieu of a pay raise? |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| I've been pondering the same thing at my job, as I make more than most of the staff there. However, I suspect our circumstances are different, so my ideas are probably moot for you. |
I do appreciate the helpful advice from you and others. The fact is, though, I'm not personally in a no-raise situation right now. I have been in the past several times, but this thread isn't about a situation *I'm* currently facing. I only started this after reading the "Would you take a pay cut?" thread over in Job-related. It got me to thinking.
Most round-eyes (as in 'just about every damn one of us') living & working on the RoK come to the Salary Re-nego Battlefield totally unaided and unarmed except for our own wits, experience and charm. Unfortunately, we just don't have the luxury of sending in the slickest, trickiest professional negotiators that union dues can buy -- the scary dudes that Koreans sic on their employers to extract the maximum possible benefits.
Just thought it might be interesting and possibly useful to consider the big "what if" and toss around some ideas & counter-demands someone may consider should they be offered the goose egg. And from the comments so far, it seems a fairly common "what if". |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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a fancier job title featuring one or more of the following words:
Overlord, Wizard, Chieftain or Imperial. |
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JongnoGuru
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
a fancier job title featuring one or more of the following words:
Overlord, Wizard, Chieftain or Imperial. |
In lieu of giving you a pay raise? Alright, I'll go along with that. But how about the corollary? Say I'll give you 3.5% right off the top, but for another 3.5 your job title becomes 'Monkey-Boy' on namecards and all company correspondence. And for an additional 3% you come to work in clown makeup. Bonuses paid for silly walks! |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| Swiss James wrote: |
a fancier job title featuring one or more of the following words:
Overlord, Wizard, Chieftain or Imperial. |
In lieu of giving you a pay raise? Alright, I'll go along with that. But how about the corollary? Say I'll give you 3.5% right off the top, but for another 3.5 your job title becomes 'Monkey-Boy' on namecards and all company correspondence. And for an additional 3% you come to work in clown makeup. Bonuses paid for silly walks! |
Make it 20% and we gots a deal.
Ook ook! |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Hell's no!
You've got to think of a) how cool the job title looks on your name card and b) how it plays on a CV
1996-1998 Junior Schmuck
straight out of school, I had to make photocopies for the guy who made the coffee
1998-1999 Office Bitch
After hard graft and proving myself, was allowed limited toilet privileges
1999-2000 Email Monitor
and so it goes until
2007-present
Grand Technical Wizard
Following triumphant tour of Mozambique on .NET powered tricopter, was granted key to the Capital city and given promotion |
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