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dmbfan
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2000 / 2004
Strange some people just don't care about blatantly stolen elections
One supposes there are bigger things mind you.
e.g. 40 years later & the MAJORITY of AmeriKa's public simply don't buy the offical line story on JFK's assassination.
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This may even be as much as them trying to head-off a fight with Iran by stirring-up trouble nearby.
This is obviously VERY poor, and PLANNED timing for this genocide thing. Suddenly, after nearly 100 years, we have to bring it up NOW?
The timing is rather interesting isn't it? Clearly not an accident or mistake.
As pundits have been commenting, it indeed likely could not have come at a worse time for G.W. & great mid-east crusade.
Hmmmmm ... wonder what major criminal distraction they're working on orchestrating now? |
LOL! OK, what you did not read about was when the New York Times......THE NEW YORK TIMES..........sent their staff members to Florida to personally count the votes................and, Bush won AGAIN!
Here is an interesting point......in the world of politics, the ones that go along, play along, and run along are the ones that OTHER politicians like, because the game of politics is being played.
But, the ones that really don't fit that kind of mode, you know....no integrity, usually get left in the dust.
No, President Bush is not perfect........but, he does not fit the politician model 
JFK? Um...are you kidding me? Yeah, WE KNOW!!!!! Get in the now, or at least the past 5 years!!!!!!
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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Turkish parliament approves Iraq mission By SUZAN FRASER, Associated Press Writer
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Parliament on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a possible cross-border offensive against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, although the government appears willing to give diplomatic pressure on the U.S.-backed Iraqi administration more time to work.
Lawmakers voted 507-19 in favor of empowering the government to order the military to cross into Iraq during a one-year period, Parliament Speaker Koksal Toptan said. They then burst into applause.
Turkish leaders have stressed that an offensive against the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, would not immediately follow the authorization.
In Washington, President Bush said the United States was making clear to Turkey it should not send a massive number of troops into Iraq.
Bush said Turkey has had troops stationed in Iraq "for quite a while."
"We don't think it's in their interest to send more troops in."
Bush also noted that Tariq al-Hashimi, one of Iraq's vice presidents, was in Istanbul expressing that Iraq shares Turkey's concerns about terrorist activities, but that there's a better way to deal with the issue than sending more troops into Iraq.
"What I'm telling you is that there's a lot of dialogue going on and that's positive," he said.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan appeared to dismiss Bush's comments.
"What's important is the parliament's decision, not what people say," private NTV television quoted him as saying.
Wednesday's motion � authorizing an attack into Iraq sometime in the next year � had the backing from all of Turkey's parliamentary parties except a small Kurdish party.
Oil prices surged to a $89 a barrel after the vote, which overshadowed a U.S. government report that crude oil and gasoline inventories rose more than expected last week.
Hours before the vote, Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki called his Turkish counterpart to say that his government was determined to halt the "terrorist activities" of the PKK on Iraqi territory, and he emphasized the need for the two nations to continue to talk, his office said.
In Paris, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, an ethnic Kurd, called on PKK rebels to stop fighting in Turkey, while also urging the Turkish government not to launch an incursion.
"We consider activities of PKK against the interests of the Kurdish people first, and then against the interests of Turkey," Talabani told reporters during an official visit to the French capital. "We have asked the PKK to stop fighting, to end the so-called military activity."
Kurdish rebels from the PKK have been fighting since 1984 for autonomy in Turkey's Kurdish-dominated southeast, a conflict that has claimed tens of thousands of lives.
Visiting Syrian President Bashar Assad said Turkey had a legitimate right to stage a cross-border offensive.
"We accept this as Turkey's legitimate right. As Syria, we are supporting all decisions by Turkey and we are standing behind them," Assad said.
Public anger over attacks by Kurdish guerrillas is high but Turkish officials are mindful that two dozen Iraqi campaigns since the 1980s have failed to eradicate the PKK.
Erdogan said Tuesday that Turkey "will act with common sense and determination when necessary and when the time is ripe."
Turkey has complained about what it considers a lack of U.S. support in the fight against the PKK. It also is frustrated that a U.S. House panel last week approved a resolution labeling the World War 1-era killing of up to 1.5 million Armenians in the final years of the Ottoman Empire a genocide.
The resolution is an affront to Turks, who deny there was any systematic campaign to eliminate Armenians.
At the White House news conference, Bush also repeated calls for the Democratic-controlled Congress to drop plans for the resolution.
Noting the number of domestic bills pending before Congress, he said: "One thing Congress should not be doing is sorting out the historical record of the Ottoman Empire."
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said she will schedule a vote soon on the resolution. But the initiative was in jeopardy after several Democrats withdrew their support and sounded alarms it could cripple U.S. relations with Turkey.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071017/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey&printer=1;_ylt=ArjPIBoqL1C35UTmXL.r_rUUewgF
I think it pretty clear that Turkey will invade. It's only a matter of when and what they will do. |
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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So maybe I don't know history as well as I should, but, why are the
Turks taking offense? Are the 'Ottomans' still in power?
Stalin was bad, but he is not Russia.
Hitler was bad, but he is not Germany.
Do the Turks still identify with the Pashas? |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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Kurds Protest by the Thousands against a Turkish Invasion:
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Kurds in Iraq protest Turkey's decision By YAHYA BARZANJI, Associated Press Writer
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Thousands of Kurds and supporters took to the streets in northern Iraq Thursday to protest the Turkish parliament's decision to authorize the government to send troops across the border to root out Kurdish rebels who have been conducting raids into Turkey.
Elsewhere, U.S. forces detained 15 suspected militants in raids, while an insurgent threw a hand grenade into a school in the south, wounding six boys.
The vote in Turkey on Wednesday removed the last legal obstacle to an offensive, but there was no sign of imminent action as the United States and the Iraqi government urged restraint.
More than 5,000 men and women � political figures and average citizens alike � packed the streets as they marched to the U.N. offices in Dahuk, a Kurdish city near the border with Turkey, some 260 miles northwest of Baghdad.
The crowd waved the sunshine flag of Iraq's autonomous Kurdish region and shouted slogans and songs praising Kurdish nationality, handing representatives at the offices a document calling on the U.N. to intervene to stop any Turkish activity inside Iraq.
Kurdish leaders have warned that any Turkish incursion into northern Iraq would threaten the relative stability of the region and called on Ankara to seek peaceful means against violence from separatist rebels.
"No to military action, Yes to dialogue," the demonstrators shouted.
Evan Dosky, a 26-year-old university student, said the Turks should stick to fighting the Kurdish separatist rebels on their territory.
"We in our country have done nothing against neighboring Turkey and we will not allow that our dignity be violated," Dosky said.
Hasso Slevkani, a 65-year-old man wearing traditional Kurdish clothes and walking with a stick, called on Kurdish political parties to unite in the face of the threat.
He also expressed concern that the Turks are not only targeting members of the rebel Kurdistan Workers' Party, known as the PKK, but also trying to disrupt the relative peace and economic success of the autonomous Kurdish region to prevent separatist sentiment from gaining momentum among the Kurdish minority in Turkey.
"They are not chasing the PKK," Slevkani said. "They want to degrade Kurdistan's government dignity."
Thousands of schoolchildren in uniform and other protesters also took to the streets in the Kurdish city of Irbil, 215 miles north of Baghdad, waving banners in Kurdish and English, saying "Understanding each other is better than killing each other."
Minority Turkomen in the northern city of Tal Afar also staged a demonstration in solidarity with the Kurds, with about 1,500 protesters marching to the city council headquarters waving Iraqi flags and banners condemning the Turkish parliament's decision, Tal Afar mayor Brig. Gen. Najim Abdullah said.
Turkish leaders have said they would prefer a solution to the guerrilla problem that does not entail a cross-border offensive; past operations in Iraq have failed to yield an outright victory over the rebels. But Erdogan has also warned that Turkey would take whatever steps necessary to defeat the separatist rebels.
Kurdish rebels have been fighting for autonomy in Turkey's southeast since 1984 in a conflict that has killed more than 30,000 people, and public anger is high over recent guerrilla attacks, as well as a perception that the United States has failed to back Turkey in its fight against the PKK.
Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Barham Saleh, a Kurd, urged Turkey not to resort to the military offensive.
"We call upon our neighbor � Turkey � that they should be very careful not to push this situation beyond the brink," Saleh told Britain's More4 news on Wednesday. "This will be disastrous for Iraq. This will be disastrous for the region as a whole and no one will escape the consequences."
"I'm not in the business of threatening. I'm not in the business of issuing dire warnings. I am saying what we have � we have a problem � we need to sort it out based on the rule of law, international law and active cooperation and coordination between two neighbors. Taking the law into ones hand and unilateral action will spell trouble for all."
Meanwhile, an insurgent threw a hand grenade into a school compound in central Basra on Thursday, wounding six boys, one seriously, according to police.
The morning attack took place on the grounds of a private middle- and high-school complex in the Kut al-Hajaj area of Basra, according to a police officer who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information. Basra is Iraq's second-largest city, 340 miles southeast of Baghdad.
The violence there comes weeks after Britain pulled its troops out of Basra, allowing Iraqi security forces to take over. The Iraqis are expected to take full control of security in the southern province of Basra within two months, ending Britain's combat role in the country.
Elsewhere, U.S. troops also detained 15 suspected militants in raids targeting al-Qaida in Iraq in Baghdad and to the north. Those captured included one accused of responsibility in car bomb and roadside bomb attacks in Tarmiyah and another who allegedly had ties to Syrian-based extremists and was involved in providing fake documents and funding for foreign fighters coming into Iraq. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&printer=1;_ylt=Aj4v1cBe93YVTV7yCwApJmkUewgF
I've got a real bad feeling about this situation. Turks have a long history of genocide, oppression, and predujice against Kurds. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Well, I was talking to a friend of mine about my posts, and not one far left nut job has responded yet.........here is what he said.
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| Far left iberals don't deal well with facts. What is important is "Bush lied! There were no WMDs It's an immoral war". Anything that jepordizes those basic beliefs isn't dealt with. They are not going to argue since they can't refute the facts. Tommorrow or the next day they will be saying "Bush lied! There were no WMDs It's an immoral war". Your comments won't even cause a ripple...... |
Good point, my man....good point.
dmbfan |
Sorry, but your "friend" doesn't really have any more credibility than anyone else. Sounds like a clip from Sean Hannity, actually.
For better or worse, I really don't think those 3 beliefs your "friend" stated belong to the far left anymore. Bush has lost a lot of credibility with many average citizens by now. I'm not a news junkie, but where ARE those infamous WMD's now anyway (or is that irrelevant now that the original rationale has shifted?) ? As for the immoral war question, it's a grey area sure, but many are also very confused if not outright disgusted with the war going on for so long and with no end in sight. Unless of course one favors permanent occupation, but that's a whole different argument.
But OK, how about...
"Clinton lied (about a blow job), There ARE WMD's (maybe...somewhere...), It's a moral war (with a permanent occupation)!"
...any better?
I know it didn't come from FOX news, but is this guy from the far left too...?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOF978gxgFo&mode=related&search= |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject: Kurds kill 9 Turkish soldiers |
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Report: 9 Turkish soldiers killed
Separatist Kurdish rebels attacked a military unit near Turkey's border with Iraq and Iran on Sunday, killing nine Turkish soldiers, the state-run Anatolia news agency reported.
The attack came four days after Turkey's Parliament passed a motion allowing its military to launch an offensive into neighboring northern Iraq to stamp out the rebels of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, hiding there.
The rebels attacked the military unit, based near the Turkish town of Yuksekova, in Hakkari province, with heavy machinery, Anatolia said. Several soldiers were also injured in the violence.
Turkey has been pressing the United States and the Iraqi government to crack down on the rebels who launch attacks in Turkey from bases in the north of Iraq. The U.S. and Iraq oppose any unilateral action by Turkey, fearing it could destabilize northern Iraq, the most stable part of the country.
Patience has been wearing thin in Turkey and the latest attack is likely to increase calls for the military to stage an incursion.
On Saturday, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey expected the United States to take action against the PKK but would take its own measures if it saw no results in the fight. |
Tensions are rising. Looks like another war about to start, but I don't think they can call this one "The Iraq War." |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Turkey vows to fight Kurdish rebels By SUZAN FRASER, Associated Press Writer
Turkey's prime minister on Sunday called for unity between Turks and Kurds, and reiterated his government's determination to fight Iraq-based separatist Kurdish rebels.
"As long as we are firmly bound together, the treacherous separatist terrorist attacks will never reach their goal," Recep Tayyip Erdogan said in a message ahead of Oct. 29 celebrations marking the 84th anniversary of the Turkish republic.
"I want to declare this one more time: The struggle we lead against the separatist terrorism that aims to destroy our unity and our constitutional order will continue with belief and determination," he said.
Turkey has been threatening to stage a cross-border military offensive into Iraq to hunt down the rebels who maintain bases there.
The conflict dates back to 1984 but clashes between government forces and guerrilla fighters have been escalating since the rebels broke a cease-fire in 2004.
Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, fighters have killed at least 42 people in the past month. Those casualties included some 30 Turkish soldiers in two ambushes that were the boldest attacks in years.
Turkey's top military commander, Gen. Yasar Buyukanit, on Saturday promised to make the rebels "grieve with an intensity that they cannot imagine."
There is increased anger toward the PKK in Turkey, and tens of thousands of Turks have staged street protests in several Turkish cities condemning the guerrillas and pushing for action since last Sunday, when 12 soldiers were killed in a Kurdish rebel ambush. The PKK said it was holding eight other soldiers captive.
On Sunday, A 9-mile run across Istanbul's Bosporus bridge to the European side of the city turned into an anti-PKK protest, with thousands of runners waiving Turkish flags and shouting slogans denouncing the rebels.
"Down with the PKK," "every Turk is born a soldier," and "martyrs never die, the country will never the divided," they shouted.
The PKK has indicated it is considering the release of the soldiers in response to calls by a lawmaker.
Military helicopters have been shuttling more troops to the mountains near Iraq, while patrols secure roads and checkpoints. The Turkish government has not said how many troops are now in place, but local media has been reporting between 100,000 and 150,000 soldiers are massed in the region, squaring off against some 3,000 to 4,000 PKK fighters.
On Sunday, an AP Television News cameraman saw a platoon returning from a mission to secure a road near the border. About half a dozen helicopters could be seen flying along the border with Iraq.
Troops defused two roadside bombs believed to have been planted by the rebels in the province of Sirnak, close to the border with Iraq, the government-run Anatolia news agency reported.
Meanwhile, the local governor's office said that security forces had detained two suspected rebels who allegedly had trained in PKK camps in northern Iraq.
The United States, Iraq and other countries have been pressing for Turkey to refrain from cross-border military operations.
A military campaign in Iraq could derail one of the few stable areas in Iraq, and leave the United States in an awkward position with key allies: NATO-member Turkey, the Baghdad government and the self-governing Iraqi Kurds in the north.
But talks between Iraqi and Turkish officials on Friday failed to produce any breakthroughs and the Iraqi delegation returned home on Saturday.
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I'm predicting mass genocide of the Kurds by the Turks. Look, there are 100,000 - 150,000 Turkish troops on the boarder with plans to invade Iraq and go after a mear 3,000-4,000 people. Think about it people! The Iraqi Kurds will have to brace themselves for the worst yet to come. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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Iraq makes it clear that they will go to war with Turkey:
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Iraqi FM warns Turkey over 'dead serious' standoff Mon Oct 29, 6:43 AM ET
Iraq warned Monday that a full-scale Turkish incursion against Kurdish rebel bases in northern Iraq would have "disastrous" results and accused Ankara of being unresponsive to a peaceful resolution of the crisis.
Describing the increasingly tense situation on the Turkish-Iraqi border as "dead serious," Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari said Baghdad was becoming "extremely nervous and worried" at the Turkish military build-up in the area.
Turkey has threatened a military incursion across the border against bases belonging to the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which has been waging a long-term struggle for self rule in eastern Turkey.
Zebari said that Turkey "was not responsive" when Iraqi officials flew to Ankara for talks on how to resolve the situation.
Turkey insists that the only way to avoid an incursion is for Iraq and the United States to crack down on the PKK bases on Iraqi territory.
But Zebari argued that Turkish demands for PKK leaders to be rounded up and handed over were unrealistic.
"They are not under our control in fact. They are up in the mountains, they are armed," he said.
Turkey has in the past engaged in cross-border "hot pursuit" operations against PKK fighters, but Zebari said the scenario had shifted dramatically in recent weeks.
"They are talking about large scale military incursion which is getting people extremely, extremely nervous and worried," he said.
Such an assault would have "disastrous consequences" and meet with stiff Iraqi resistance, he warned.
"That's why the whole government of Iraq and the whole people of Iraq are united really not to see their sovereignty, their territorial integrity undermined by a friendly neighbouring country," he said.
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Turkey's invasion is something that could unite Iraqis against a common enemy. This should get very interesting. The US is not getting involved but at some point they will have no choice but to get involved or get out altogether. What's going on with the Korean troops over there? Are they out already? |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: TURKEY wants to Invade Iraq: USA says NO WAY! |
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| Gates warns Turkey not to invade Iraq |
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This is absolutely hilarious! The US, after having invaded Iraq near-unanimously and having asked other countries to join it, and while still there, is warning other coutnries not to!!!
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| This is nothing more than the Democrats stopping at no expense to cause as much damage as possible to the Iraq war situation. |
Anyone who believes the Democrats really want to stop the war is seriously deluded. Read http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=103376 |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:52 am Post subject: Re: TURKEY wants to Invade Iraq: USA says NO WAY! |
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Questions:
1.) WILL Turkey invade Iraq?
a.) If so, how will the US military respond?
b.) If so, how will the world community respond?
c.) If so, how will the Iraqi people respond, including the Kurds?
d.) If so, how will Iran respond?
e.) If so, will the USA become the scapegoat for what Turkey does?
f.) If so, how will terrorists and insurgents respond?
2.) How does this change the perception that the USA is the sole and only "invader" of Iraq when we have other countries such as Turkey that clearly would ALSO like to invade? |
Answer to Question 1, NO. Answers to a) thru f), irrelevant. Answer to Question 2, not much in perception, the image of the US is pretty much farked nowadays re: Iraq. |
Now you can eat your words!
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Turkish planes hit rebel targets in Iraq By SUZAN FRASER, Associated Press Writer
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Turkish warplanes hit Kurdish rebel targets in northern Iraq early Sunday, Turkey's military said, the first such attack since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. An Iraqi official said the planes attacked several villages, killing one woman.
Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Cicek urged Kurdish separatists to surrender and said Turkey would press ahead with operations against rebel bases in northern Iraq "with determination when necessary."
The attack came a month after the United States promised to share intelligence with Turkey about the Kurdistan Workers Party, which seeks autonomy for the Kurdish minority in southeastern Turkey and has hideouts in northern Iraq.
But the U.S. and Iraq have urged Turkey to avoid a major operation against PKK bases in northern Iraq for fear of destabilizing the most stable region in the country. Turkey has massed tens of thousands of Turkish troops along the border with Iraq amid a series of attacks by Kurdish insurgents.
The fighter jets hit rebel close to the border with Turkey and in Qandil mountain further away from the frontier, the military said in a statement on its Web site. It said the operation was directed against the PKK and not against the local population.
All planes returned to their bases safely and the army continued firing on the targets with long-range weapons, the military said. Artillery units fired shells toward Iraq from the town of Cukurca, where the borders of Turkey, Iran and Iraq meet, footage from the private Dogan news agency showed.
Private NTV television said some 50 warplanes were involved in the airstrikes, taking off from bases in eastern and western Turkey.
It was Turkey's first confirmed attack with fighter jets against rebel targets across the border since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Last month, Iraqi officials said Turkish helicopter gunships attacked abandoned villages inside Iraq.
A top Iraqi official said Turkish warplanes bombarded 10 Kurdish villages, killing one woman and injuring two others.
Abdullah Ibrahim, a top local official in the administrative center of Sangasar, acknowledged that there were Kurdish rebel bases in the area, but said they were far from the villages that were hit.
"The villagers are now scared and are hiding in nearby caves. They lost all their properties," Ibrahim said.
An Iraqi army officer with the border guard said the attack began about 2:30 a.m. on three villages in Iraq's Qandil mountain chain, where Turkish and Iranian Kurdish rebels are based. The officer spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.
The villages are scattered in the Qandil mountains, some as far as an hour's drive apart over steep roads and paths. The region that was attacked was about 105 miles from the Turkish border.
The Turkish military vowed to press ahead with operations against the PKK "according to military needs with determination."
Earlier this month, the military said it fired on a group of about 50 to 60 PKK guerrillas inside Iraqi territory, inflicting "significant losses."
Turkish forces have periodically shelled suspected rebel positions across the Iraqi border, and have sometimes carried out "hot pursuits" � limited raids on the Iraqi side that sometimes last only a few hours.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071216/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_iraq_kurds&printer=1;_ylt=An5zN7tcUOdFj0Zb3KekFRIUewgF |
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nicholas_chiasson
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| Now it starts to get really fun...cause the Kurds are our buddies, and the Turks were our buddies. and now they want to fight. How much are we going to bribe Turkey this time? |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: Turkey has NOW Invaded Iraq with Foot Soldiers |
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Turkey has NOW Invaded Iraq with Foot Soldiers:
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Rice make surprise visit to Iraq By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer
5 minutes ago
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Tuesday that the United States, Iraq and Turkey have a "common interest" in stopping Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq, but cautioned against taking any action that could destabilize the region.
Rice's comments came days after Turkey conducted airstrikes against rebels from the Kurdish Workers' Party, or PKK, in northern Iraq. As many as 50 fighter jets were involved in the attack, the biggest against the PKK in years. The planes attacked several villages, killing one woman, Iraqi officials said.
The Turkish army also sent soldiers about 1.5 miles into northern Iraq in an overnight operation on Tuesday, Kurdish officials said. A Turkish official said the troops seeking Kurdish rebels were still in Iraq by midmorning.
Rice made it clear the United States supports efforts to quash any rebel movement, but she said it was a "Turkish decision" to act.
And she suggested that Iraqi, Turkish and U.S. authorities should try to work together against the rebels.
"This is a circumstance in which ... we need an overall comprehensive approach to this problem," Rice said. "No one should do anything that threatens to destabilize the north."
"This was a Turkish decision," Rice said of the Sunday airstrike. "And we have made clear to the Turkish government that we continue to be concerned about anything that could lead to civilian casualties or anything that could destabilize the north."
Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, agreed with Rice's position, saying the U.S., Iraq and Turkey share a common goal of making sure there is no "PKK terrorist activity," including what have been cross-border attacks against the Turks.
Zebari said that Iraq understands what he said were Turkey's "legitimate concerns" about the rebels, who want their own Kurdish state, although the Baghdad government had complained that Ankara didn't notify Iraq of the airstrikes in advance. But Zebari said it's better if Iraq, Turkey and the United States work together jointly to come up with a plan to quash the Kurdish rebels.
"We believe any unilateral actions to destabilize the situation will harm Iraqi interests and Turkey's interests," Zebari said, standing beside Rice. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071218/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/rice&printer=1;_ylt=AknmPiy5LkUE0CWtZsQUEaqWwvIE |
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