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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I just think most of the white guys here are frustrated that they have little or no access to the prostitutes here in Korea.
I've never paid for a girl in my life (besides dating), but I have walked through the Red Light at Yongsan and oh my God!
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen worse. Room salons in the same building as kiddie hagwons.
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The industry is massive here.
I know of at least 7 places where you can pay for sex around Mokdong station alone.
And you go to any other subway station in and around Seoul and I guatntee that you will be able to find at least two places to pay for sex.
Seriously it's everywhere in this city once you know where to look. |
You're absolutely right. What I find funny is that a lot of these sex coffee shops are on the same streets as churches. In America, especially the south, they would never tolerate such a thing. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: yes |
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This bashing ain't baseless, dude. That's why it hurts so much to read.
I find this particularily deplorable. As if I didn't need another reason to raise my children in another country, where prostitution occurs (admission), but not nearly on the scale of Korea.
My new favourite Korean expression is 한국 결찰 열심히 하시지. (Korean police work so hard, don't they?)
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I defend Korea when the bashing is baseless. I know what its like being a foreigner here. I've had taxi's drive away when I open my mouth and they find out I'm a foreigner. I've dealt with the same bureaucratic BS that everyone else goes through at banks, immigration, public schools, etc...
I know Korea isn't perfect. However, I'm sick and tired of people sitting on their high horse attacking Korea acting like their own shi*t doesn't stink.
Korea is NOT perfect. Korea has a LOT of problems. I understand people wanting to bring those issues to light for discussion purposes. I'm am against people using said topics to try and add fuel to the fire of Korea hating and bashing. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
This bashing ain't baseless, dude. That's why it hurts so much to read.
I find this particularily deplorable. As if I didn't need another reason to raise my children in another country, where prostitution occurs (admission), but not nearly on the scale of Korea.
My new favourite Korean expression is 한국 결찰 열심히 하시지. (Korean police work so hard, don't they?) |
Have you ever walked through Yongsan and even see some of the girls moonlighting in Kangnam?
I'm just saying dude.......
Yeah man, I prefer more equality amongst the sexes and for damn sure I would never want my girlfriend/wife/sister/mother/daughter ect... to be involved in the sex industry.
And I do see the hypocriscy with prostitution here and the Koreas position on sex slaves.
And I do feel sorry for the girls who are indebted and basically forced to sell their bodies in order to pay off debts.
I know all that.
But they have fine females here. And as a male I can totally relate to the desire to take part in these activities.
I know you love your wife to death Ilsanman, but you gotta admit that the longer the relationship goes the less interested you are in having sex with that person.
It's natural. And for many of these Korean men it is socially acceptable amongst co-workers (i.e. other males) to engage with a hot and young (over the age of 18 of course) female.
It's wrong I know, but I can see the appeal in it. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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The sex industry is a problem here. We are in Southeast Asia. If it isn't Korean prostitutes, then its the sex slaves that get smuggled in here from Russia.
The Japanese have problems with prostitution too. I've read many stories of middle aged men taking high school (even middle school) girls out on dates and giving them money in exchange for sexual favors.
Don't even get me started with China and their Human Rights violations. I'm sure child prostitution is a tremendous problem in China. Their government just has better control on the flow of information.
Just about every country in this area has sexual slavery and human trafficking. To say that its just a "Korean problem" is incorrect. When you look at the BIG picture, then it isn't unusual what happened.
Prostitution is legal in Las Vegas, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist outside of Nevada. There is prostitution all over the US. Go into any city in the US, and I guarantee you can find hookers. Of course, the main difference is that going to a prostitute is a stigma and socially taboo in the West, whereas in the East it is acceptable.
I want to make the point that this isn't strictly a "Korean problem". Some people on this board would love nothing more than to say this is an isolated incident that is specific to Korea alone. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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We are in Southeast Asia.
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I encourage you to lool at a map sometime. If you can then say Korea is anywhere near SE Asia or even in a southern part of Asia, then I will be shocked. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| This korean girl was not tricked. She knew it was wrong. She told her customers/perpetrators what her situation was. They all chose not to do anything. |
BINGO.
pkang:
No one is saying that prostitution is endemic to Korea. Sharpen your head, Mr. Pencil.
But to equate sex between consenting adults with the abduction and exploitation of a 14 year-old by 800 men is not widespread despite your wishful thinking to the contrary.
You sound like another Korean apologist or gyopo.
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| I'm sure child prostitution is a tremendous problem in China. Their government just has better control on the flow of information. |
Sure? What makes you so sure? I have a good friend and former colleague who frequents prostitutes all over China in all locales including bathhouses and massage parlors and hairstyling salons. He rarely sees a girl under 16.
I lived in China for a decade and NEVER once heard a report from any media source or expats on such a scale as that described here by the OP.
So think again.
As for the Japanese, they are commonly perceived by other Asians as sexual perverts with some justification. Just look at the S&M websites (do a Google search) not to mention the disgusting schoolgirl spreads in the skin mags available even in airport stands. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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But they have fine females here. And as a male I can totally relate to the desire to take part in these activities.
I know you love your wife to death Ilsanman, but you gotta admit that the longer the relationship goes the less interested you are in having sex with that person.
It's natural. And for many of these Korean men it is socially acceptable amongst co-workers (i.e. other males) to engage with a hot and young (over the age of 18 of course) female.
It's wrong I know, but I can see the appeal in it. |
I guess I totally can not relate. I believe in marriage and take it very seriously. I would never cheat on my wife in any way shape or form. That includes going to prostitutes. Oddly many Koreans seem to think this is acceptable in a marriage. I will never figure that one out.
I guess I just have different value system.
I hope Koreans severely punish these people and show the world that they are serious about such matters. Don't worry about the Korean Wave or other sensationalist ways to grab the World's attention. Quietly do the right thing consistently and people will start to notice. Koreans have the opportunity to set a good example. Let's hope they seize it.
Mind you, she was 14 according to the reports. I see that the age of consent in South Korea is actually 13. Could this actually be legal in this county? I sure hope not. 
http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
The age of consent
What is the age of consent?
It varies by country and for male-female, male-male, and female-female sex. The age of consent in countries where you must be married to engage in sex is synonymous with the marriageable age. According to the Wikipedia, 'the marriageable age for Iran is 15 for males, 13 for females. For Pakistan it is 18 for males, 15 for females. In Yemen, in 1999, the minimum marriage age of fifteen for women, rarely enforced, was abolished; the onset of puberty, interpreted by conservatives to be at the age of nine, was set as a requirement for consummation of marriage'. From Human Rights Watch: World Report 2001 on Yemen.
There appears to be no age limit for sex with girls in Saudi Arabia as long as you are married to the girl (that she is one of your wives). It is 12 in Chile, Colombia and Paraguay and appears to be undefined or irrelevant in Ecuador and Mexico. It is 13 in Guyana, Korea, Nigeria, South Korea, Spain and Syria. It is 14 in Canada and China, the latter with the world�s largest population of over 1.2 billion, and 14 also in many other countries. Most of the balance varies from 14 up to a few countries where it is 18. For a full list see Ages of consent around the world.
http://www.inquisition21.com/article124.html?&MMN_position=87:87 |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess I just have different value system. |
No, you don't have a different value system, you actually have A value system as opposed to none at all. Good for you and I'm with you on this score.
Cultural relativists will argue away the excuse that a 12 year-old in one country is not the same as elsewhere. But then they run up against feminists. What's funny is a cultural relativist who claims to be a feminist too. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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BLOOMFIELD, Conn. - Police looking for clues in the yearlong disappearance of a 15-year-old girl said they found her Wednesday, pale but alive, locked in a hidden room in a home owned by an acquaintance of her parents.
Bloomfield police went to the home Wednesday in nearby West Hartford to serve search warrants for DNA and other evidence and found the girl locked inside a tiny room hidden underneath a staircase and blocked from view by a dresser.
Authorities did not identify the girl, but said she had sometimes run away from home before she vanished last June.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19075439/
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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cbclark:
That's sad news, of course, but sadly yet it's not surprising.
But as bad as it is, it is NOT comparable to the motel story in Korea and others like them. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| It is 13 in Guyana, Korea, Nigeria, South Korea, Spain and Syria. |
I dunno. Everything I've ever heard, even from Koreans who have sought out 16 year olds, is that the age of consent is 19 Korean age.
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GuriGuy wrote:
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| I guess I just have different value system. |
No, you don't have a different value system, you actually have A value system as opposed to none at all. Good for you and I'm with you on this score. |
Nice shot! Not only do you get to slag on Korea as a whole but also anyone who might not believe in a traditional marriage. I'm impressed. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| It is 13 in Guyana, Korea, Nigeria, South Korea, Spain and Syria. |
I dunno. Everything I've ever heard, even from Koreans who have sought out 16 year olds, is that the age of consent is 19 Korean age.
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The age of sexual consent is indeed 13. The age of majority is 19. It might be the case that their is a prohibition on the number of years older the sexual partner of the 13 year old may be (40 bangin 13 might be illegal while 16-13 is ok). This is quite in line with the rest of the world. One or two years difference either way would be the tolerance.
In Iran, the age of sexual consent is 9 (or 7, I can't remember) cause mo' married a 7 year old.
Just sayin.
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Well you can check the links I provided about age of consent. I'd be happy to hear otherwise as 13 seems very low. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
| Well you can check the links I provided about age of consent. I'd be happy to hear otherwise as 13 seems very low. |
Copyright � 2003 Inquisition 21st century
The reason I figured that info was wrong was I had a guy, a university professor, who told me the way to sleep with underage girls - under 18, he said - was to not touch them on the first date. If you slept with them after that you wouldn't get in trouble. That guy was such a piece of shit.
Hm, but your other link is legit. I dunno, but I have heard it from Koreans and foreigners who have messed around with girls under 18. |
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