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Are they the lemmings
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.
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| Bilk, Swindlyn & Gypper, attorneys at law wrote: |
Bilk, Swindlyn & Gypper
Attorneys at Law
Dear Sir,
We write to inform you that our client, Miss XXXXXXXXXX, with whom you had a brief liaison almost a year ago, has recently given birth to a child. As pertains to the issue of paternity, we have reason to believe... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: Re: 15 things no man wants to hear... from a woman |
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[quote="Big_Bird"]In the spirit of the war of the sexes stuff we've had lately:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/woman/story/0,,1747295,00.html
[quote]1 Any stories about ex-boyfriends, even ones told against the poor blokes. If your ex was a violent, brainless, tattooed ex-con, this will only make us feel boring and unmanly. And scared.
I disagree with that partially. I don't want to hear about all the ex-boyfriends. It does get boring, but if there was a recent one, which can be a red flag, you bet we guys should want to know about that. I'd prefer a woman tell me about a recent ex-boyfriend who really rubbed her the wrong way without acting like I am also guilty because I am a man. I prefer some disclosure. |
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mack4289
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| I'm confused. You mean you guys actually listen to women? |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: |
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The one thing a woman can do that really gets my nerve is when you think she is upset and a few times you ask her whats wrong, and she says everything is ok. Then at some random moment in the near fututre she starts being a b*tch toward you, and you ask wtf, and she berates you saying she was upset and you should have known etc etc.
Im sure all the guys here have experienced that one. |
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ella
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| I would LOVE to hear a woman dispute any of your 10 comments. |
Um, okay. I have insomnia so I'll give this a shot:
>1. I love you.
Goes both ways.
>2. You are beautiful.
Nope. I'm not and don't need to hear it.
>3. (Random compliment about some accessory she's wearing that men don't typically notice) Wow, that's an interesting necklace. Where did you get it? (Also noticing when she's bought some new piece of clothing. Even better if she bought the piece of clothing when you were with her and you mention it.) Hey, that's the skirt you bought last month before the movie. I was waiting to see you wear it.
Couldn't care less. I pick jewelry that is meaningful to me, I don't care if he notices or likes it or not. I'm the one who's wearing it. I hate clothes shopping and get it over with as soon as possible. I don't take anyone with me because that would drag out the experience and I have better things to do.
>4. You know, I think you're right. Let's do it that way.
If that happens it happens, but it goes both ways.
>5. Hun, I picked you up a little something yesterday. I'll give it to you at lunch. No I won't tell you what it is. It's a surprise!
I would likely find this annoying.
>6. I was out today and I noticed this great new restaurant I think you'd like.
Why wouldn't he pick someplace we'd both enjoy?
>7. (Asking her interesting questions about her current hobby.)
If he's interested, that's fine. If not, that's okay, too. I don't pursue hobbies for him, I do that for me.
>8. How do you feel when I do this?
Ugh, NO. I would never pick a guy who'd say crap like that.
9. You know, you always just seem to know the right thing to wear. Help me pick out a nice tie for the musical we're going to next weekend.
HAHAHAHA - no guy would ever say that to me. I have to ask other people about clothing choices. And any guy who can't dress himself I'm not interested in. I'm not his mother. Be a grownup, for goodness' sake. (Side note: I do like musicals but not watching them; too many years being in the cast to enjoy being in the audience anymore.)
10. (When something crappy or anxiety provoking happens, don't try to rationalize with her that her fears or emotions are pointless/groundless. She knows that already and that only makes it suck more.) "Wow, hun, that really sucks. I'm sorry. Let's hug."
I'm not really a "help me with my fears" kind of person. I mean there's venting and that's okay with me, everyone needs to do that sometimes, but mainly I just deal with things, and I'd expect him to as well. And there's something creepy about that hug announcement.
How was that? |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Canadian Club wrote: |
| Maybe some of you *guys* should make a list of what you want to hear. |
I've always contended that since women so rarely tell us men what they like about us, preferring instead to list their dislikes, we have to make it up ourselves. So we assume you like what we like about ourselves: our John Thomas and our car.
10 Things I think a woman you're in a serious relationship with wants to hear
1. I love you.
2. You are beautiful.
3. (Random compliment about some accessory she's wearing that men don't typically notice) Wow, that's an interesting necklace. Where did you get it? (Also noticing when she's bought some new piece of clothing. Even better if she bought the piece of clothing when you were with her and you mention it.) Hey, that's the skirt you bought last month before the movie. I was waiting to see you wear it.
4. You know, I think you're right. Let's do it that way.
5. Hun, I picked you up a little something yesterday. I'll give it to you at lunch. No I won't tell you what it is. It's a surprise!
6. I was out today and I noticed this great new restaurant I think you'd like.
7. (Asking her interesting questions about her current hobby.)
8. How do you feel when I do this?
9. You know, you always just seem to know the right thing to wear. Help me pick out a nice tie for the musical we're going to next weekend.
10. (When something crappy or anxiety provoking happens, don't try to rationalize with her that her fears or emotions are pointless/groundless. She knows that already and that only makes it suck more.) "Wow, hun, that really sucks. I'm sorry. Let's hug."
Oh yeah and always note when your GF gets a new haircut. If you hate it, never say "it looks nice". Everyone knows that's code for you don't like it. My strategy is saying neutral things that sound complimentary. "Wow, your new haircut looks really fresh." Or obscure references "Wow, it's very Emma Thompson from Howard's End."
What you got, Big Bird? |
What a lot of hogwash. Clearly you don't know anything about women. Gig's up. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Big Bird can you list 10 things a man truly wants to hear from a woman? |
Sure, MM2.
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes Sir!
4. OK
5. Whatever you like, honey
6. Sure
7. Yeah
8. Oh Yeah
9. Oh! Yeah!
10. Oh! Yeah.... Just like that! |
You know what? This is completely wrong, every bit of it. The women who are and have been important in my life - mother, friends, sisters, lovers, wives, even exes - they are smart and strong and they look me in the eye and say "Bob, you're wrong this time." It usually takes me exactly four and a half minutes to realize they are right. Hell, it happened again about 4 hours ago ...
Half of why I have a good life is because I take a moment to listen to the women around me.
By the way, took me 30 seconds to read your post and decide you were wrong 10 times. Probably took you at least 5 seconds more than that to type it, right? That means I win. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| NAVFC wrote: |
The one thing a woman can do that really gets my nerve is when you think she is upset and a few times you ask her whats wrong, and she says everything is ok. Then at some random moment in the near fututre she starts being a b*tch toward you, and you ask wtf, and she berates you saying she was upset and you should have known etc etc.
Im sure all the guys here have experienced that one. |
Oh, men can be like that too. Particularly English men, I find. I normally just wait until they've had about 23 beers (that's never a long wait) and then it all comes spilling out. Here's a conversation I had recently:
Me: Are you having "feelings" about something?
Him: No, not at all. No feelings. Everything is fine.
Me: Ok, have it your way, but I'd rather hear about it now than when you're drunk on the dance floor tonight.
Him: A fair point. Well, you see, it's like this...
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
| NAVFC wrote: |
The one thing a woman can do that really gets my nerve is when you think she is upset and a few times you ask her whats wrong, and she says everything is ok. Then at some random moment in the near fututre she starts being a b*tch toward you, and you ask wtf, and she berates you saying she was upset and you should have known etc etc.
Im sure all the guys here have experienced that one. |
Oh, men can be like that too. Particularly English men, I find. I normally just wait until they've had about 23 beers (that's never a long wait) and then it all comes spilling out. Here's a conversation I had recently:
Me: Are you having "feelings" about something?
Him: No, not at all. No feelings. Everything is fine.
Me: Ok, have it your way, but I'd rather here about it now than when you're drunk on the dance floor tonight.
Him: A fair point. Well, you see, it's like this... |
Him:... wait a minute! I am drunk on the dance floor. I think I've had a good 20 beers.
You: That's right. That's when I score! |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Er... was that an insult? |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Someone has to say this:
"Ohhh, you sooo BIG!" |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| JongnoGuru wrote: |
The all ominous-sounding, all serious-faced:
"I think you and I need to talk."
Hooo boy, now there's a sure-fire sign of fun times ahead.  |
A friend once noted the inverse relationship of when meetings are announced, when they're to take place, and the gravity of the meeting's topic. To wit, "Stuart, my office, now" is rarely a positive meeting. |
Well sure, emergency meetings at the workplace are rarely held for happy reasons ("Quarterly sales exceeded all projections! Let's party!!").
But in affairs of the heart, these things, these topics of grim talks, they're never genuine *emergencies*. It's more like, "There are a few things I'm not happy with -- some are real, others just in my head, and I've thinking about them a whole damn lot lately. Just stewing over them, keeping it all bottled up. Cuz that's always fun. And now I'm just a seething cauldron of anxieties and fears and complaints, and I'm gonna dump it all over your head, WHAM!!, like that, when you least suspect it. Oh, and just to let you know what a terrible time you're in for, I gave you that ominous-sounding, serious-faced 'I think you and I had better talk'." Cuz I'm just a drama-queen that way. Seen it on TV talk shows, looks fun."
Ladies, there's gotta be a better way. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ella wrote: |
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| I would LOVE to hear a woman dispute any of your 10 comments. |
Um, okay. I have insomnia so I'll give this a shot:
[growl, snarl, grrr]
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| 10. (When something crappy or anxiety provoking happens, don't try to rationalize with her that her fears or emotions are pointless/groundless. She knows that already and that only makes it suck more.) "Wow, hun, that really sucks. I'm sorry. Let's hug." |
I'm not really a "help me with my fears" kind of person. I mean there's venting and that's okay with me, everyone needs to do that sometimes, but mainly I just deal with things, and I'd expect him to as well. And there's something creepy about that hug announcement.
How was that? |
My advice: lay off the caffeine for a while.
Wow, and especially the snapping at the offer of a hug.  Okay, I personally don't announce when I'm going to hug a woman either. Maybe it would have been better had MM2 just said: (*hugs*).
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ella wrote: |
| How was that? |
Evidence I've made the correct dating choices in life. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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things no man wants to hear... from a woman....
Honey, did I tell you mummie's coming to stay?
Or worse, Honey, did I tell you mummy and daddy are coming to stay?
Or even worse, Honey, did I tell you mummy and daddy are moving in?
Or even, even worse, Honey, did I tell you mummy, daddy, and grandma are moving in?
Or, yes, wait for it, There's not enough beds, so you're sleeping on the floor with daddy (or Grandma) from now on. |
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