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Is your Korean Church just a little off?
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
I'm not anti-Christian but I'm definitely anti-Church. Churches are primarily a money making tool, especially in Korea. If you earn more money then the church you belong to earns more money. I used to tutor the children of a pastor in Suwon. He had a very small church with a very small congregation but somehow he could afford to pay me a lot....and I mean A LOT.



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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junkyardninja wrote:
..Give us this day our daily bread.

I think it's okay to pray for oneself regarding the necessities of life. How far that extends into praying for things that are just desired I'm less theologically certain of...


Give us this day our daily bread has more than one meaning. It means spiritual sustenance and also to have enough food. The Bible does not concentrate on being wealthy. It warns of bringing money issues into the church. Jesus also says that a "rich man has as much of a chance entering the Kingdom of Heaven as the man through an eye of a needle".
Buddhists sometimes pay for wealth and maybe Korean Christians have incorporated that into their Christianity. I am not sure. However, when I went to a Catholic church here, in Korea, I didn't feel it was different
than a Catholic church from North America or Europe in any major way.
I get this impression that many Protestant churches here are strange.
I would be hesitant to go to one if I were Protestant.
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Is your Korean Church just a little off? Reply with quote

Ryst Helmut wrote:
Only orally do I testify....
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jackooboy



Joined: 02 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calvinists, who are Presbyterians, who are most Korean Evangelicals; are a little off...
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Ryst Helmut



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Is your Korean Church just a little off? Reply with quote

whatever wrote:
Ryst Helmut wrote:
Only orally do I testify....
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OneWayTraffic



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People saying that you need to give 10% or it's stealing from God are as bad as televangelists. What the hell is God going to do with the money. It's not like he can't just create it himself.
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teachergirltoo



Joined: 28 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrary to what one post says, praying should not complicated. Jesus gave us a very simple model to follow. First pray for God's name to be made Holy and be made known to others, then for his Kingdom to come. The outworking of His will for all people is the most important item a person could care about, so it seems reasonable that that is what we should spend most of our time praying about. Jesus did mention personal needs in the prayer but they are not the priority - the doing of God's will and helping others are. And that is the way he lived his life. Secondly, one thing I often think about is that of the nine points listed in Matthew five for attaining true happiness, none are connected to material gain.

There some very good posts above. I have been attending the English congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Suwon. It is great. There is no collection, no talk of money, nor praying for material gain, nor selfish interests - just people that truly love studying the Bible and helping others. I would recommend it to anyone.
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Little Laura



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I go to - and work for - a small international church that's basically all Korean except for the American pastor and me and one other American girl. Originally there was a basket passed for offerings like we do in America, but then the Koreans suggested just putting an offering basket by the door rather than passing it. It's great. Nobody knows who's giving or how much - I can testify to that because I work for the church and do the bookkeeping. A few people tithe by transferring money into the church's bank account, so I see their names on the bank book when it's put in. But I could care less. It's between them and God.

I tithe, but no one knows because I just put in cash. God knows. I'm thankful for a really wonderful pastor who feeds us spiritually and never mentions money. The Koreans here love his teaching and are glad to do their part to keep the church going, as I am. His teaching has helped me to know and enjoy God, and grow in my relationship with Him and others.

BTW, there's a Korean guy on the board who's good at accounting, so he goes over my simple bookkeeping work (I use Quicken) and makes a quarterly financial report for the church members so they can see where their money is going. One large chunk of it goes to missions. Again, I'm the one who goes to the bank and actually transfers this money to missionaries we support in Madagascar, Thailand, Philippines, and India. Just to give you an inside look at one church's financial workings.
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