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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Why ought Iraq not be split up. It ought never have been put together in the first place. |
Well we already know the the partitions of countries (see India in 1948) don't exactly go smooth.
The partition of Iraq will be equally as bad.
Plus there's the whole Baghdad question which I've see no good answer.
Iraq's in a civil war right now. The mainstream western media is basically only covering the major bombings and the few good will stories.
Most of us (including myself) don't realize how bad it is on the streets. How do we know this? Well journalists don't exactly have free range outside of Kurdistan. At that area too is becomming problematic.
But most importantly, the invasion of Iraq has increased dramatically the nati-American sentiment across the Muslim world. For years the extremeists have been warning about the ever increasing Western dominance of their lands.
Now to muslim nations are basically occupied by Western powers, and others (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Egypt) survive because of the West.
Al Qaeda and other extremeist groups have strengthened exponentially in terms of recrutement. As have terrorist activities around the world.
The extremists in the Muslim world as well as those in the White House have a messianic vision of the world and see their actions as completing this vision. Both sides (small in numbers, but powerful in propoganda) are taking the rest of the world into this path.
The civilized world has let the minority of extremeists utilize fear in order to push their vision or agenda. |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Kuros wrote: |
There are hints and rumors of WMD spirited into Syria. But on the off-chance that its true, how much would it have to have been to justify the cluster-fiasco of the Iraq War?
What worries me is the effect all this is having in the international community with regards to Iran. The IAEA admits they have 2,000 working centrifuges.
Oops. Wrong country. |
Sheesh, you got that right. Much starker evidence in Iran right now, than there ever was in Iraq.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| endo wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Why ought Iraq not be split up. It ought never have been put together in the first place. |
Well we already know the the partitions of countries (see India in 1948) don't exactly go smooth.
The partition of Iraq will be equally as bad.
Plus there's the whole Baghdad question which I've see no good answer.
Iraq's in a civil war right now. The mainstream western media is basically only covering the major bombings and the few good will stories.
Most of us (including myself) don't realize how bad it is on the streets. How do we know this? Well journalists don't exactly have free range outside of Kurdistan. At that area too is becomming problematic.
But most importantly, the invasion of Iraq has increased dramatically the nati-American sentiment across the Muslim world. For years the extremeists have been warning about the ever increasing Western dominance of their lands.
Now to muslim nations are basically occupied by Western powers, and others (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Egypt) survive because of the West.
Al Qaeda and other extremeist groups have strengthened exponentially in terms of recrutement. As have terrorist activities around the world.
The extremists in the Muslim world as well as those in the White House have a messianic vision of the world and see their actions as completing this vision. Both sides (small in numbers, but powerful in propoganda) are taking the rest of the world into this path.
The civilized world has let the minority of extremeists utilize fear in order to push their vision or agenda. |
70,000 trained in AQ camps during the 1990s. While the US was defending muslim Kurds from Saddam and muslims is Kosovo from Slobidan. This was also while the US was bringing the Israelis and the Palestinians together.
What was the problem then?
Al-Qaeda camps 'trained 70,000'
Still from footage purportedly showing militants at an al-Qaeda training camp
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Thousands are said to have joined al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan
Some 70,000 people received weapons training and religious instruction in al-Qaeda camps, German police say. |
Did you ever notice that not many in that part of the world got mad when Saddam gassed the Kurds, when Khomeni' Fatwa killed tens of thousands , when Assad destroyed the city of Hama or when Bin Laden killed muslims ? What religion was the Northern alliance?
Here is left wing writer Robert Fisk who I don't like but he is correct here.
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As usual in the Arab world, everyone knew what was happening and no one said a thing. The British and American pilots flying the pointless southern "no-fly" zone � allegedly to protect Iraq's minorities � could clearly see the receding waters of the Marsh. The Arab regimes remained silent. Neither Mubarak nor Arafat nor Assad nor Fahd uttered the mildest word of criticism, any more than they did when the Kurds were gassed. |
http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0519-02.htm |
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