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Huge Earthquake in Japan
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Koveras wrote:

There are a number of obvious measures that governments can use to encourage conservation: publicity efforts, �name and shame� policies, opportunities and subsidies for small and city farmers, to name a few.


First, you sound just like all the Communist Chinese at environmental conference I attended once in Beijing.

Second, you and they irritate me with your naivete.

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What interests me, however, is redesigning the city. The problem is not necessarily that they�re sprawling, but that since they�re so centralized and poorly planned, the land is wasted.


Okay, here's where you depart from the Communist Chinese. I was getting worried. I think if you had waited two paragraphs instead of zero to propose a real solution, you would have lost me.


That was a hefty contribution. Don�t strain yourself.
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The �Metro Monde� of Montreal says that the Japanese Nuclear Safety Agency has raised the Fukushima accident to a level seven, the same as Chernobyl. According to the IAEA classifications, level seven means a �major ejection of radioactive materials, with extensive effects on health and environment.�

Total radiation released is still 10 times less than Chernobyl, but then again the meltdown isn't over yet.
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TL



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The geography teacher at my school mentioned that the wind blows from Japan in the summer. I did a search from Google and found the following:
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While basically continental, the climate of South Korea is greatly influenced by prevailing winds. In general, there are hot summers and cold winters. In the summer, the prevailing winds are from the south and south-east, bringing hot, humid weather. A cold, dry wind blows from the north and north-west during the winter, bringing cold weather.

http://www.fao.org/forestry/country/18310/en/kor/

But then I found this:
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The prevailing wind systems are southwesterly in summer and northwesterly in winter. The speed of the latter is faster than the former in general. During the transition period from southwesterly to northwesterly in September and October, a welldeveloped land-sea breeze emerges as a prominent feature.
http://web.kma.go.kr/eng/biz/climate_01.jsp

Which one is it?
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is interesting.

VIDEO: How the 2011 Japan Tsunami Happened
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Space Bar



Joined: 20 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fukushima Elevated to Level 7 - Even Though Already Well Beyond Chernobyl

Posted: 2011/04/13
From: Mathaba

by Stephen Lendman


Fukushima's disaster will scar much, perhaps all of Japan for generations, including fetuses and newborns to be genetically harmed by radiation poisoning.

Kyodo News announced the latest news headlining, "Japan ups Fukushima nuke crisis severity to 7, same as Chernobyl," saying:

"The government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) upgraded its provisional evaluation based on an estimate that radioactive materials far exceeding the criteria for level 7 have so far been released into the external environment...."

NISA and Japan's Nuclear Safety Commission (NSC) estimate that 370,000 - 630,000 terabecquerels of radioactive materials have been released from Units 1, 2 and 3.
One terabecquerel equals one trillion becquerels.

In other words, with no crisis resolution in sight, enormous radiation amounts have already been released since March 11. Northern Japan has been contaminated. The rest of the country has been affected, and so have the Pacific rim and Northern Hemisphere.

In fact, rating Fukushima Level 7 understates it, especially since radiation emitted will continue for an indeterminate period - at least months, maybe years.

On March 12, New York Times writers Hiroko Tabuchi and Keith Bradsher headlined, "Japan Nuclear Disaster Put on Par with Chernobyl," saying:

"The decision to raise the alert level to 7....amounts to an admission that the accident....is likely to have substantial and long-lasting consequences for health and for the environment."


The IAEA describes level 7 as:

"A major release of radioactive material with widespread health and environmental effects requiring implementation of planned and extended counter measures."

"An event resulting in an environmental release corresponding to a quantity of radioactivity equivalent to a release to the atmosphere of more than tens of thousands of terabecquerels." Tens of thousands, and this is already close to one million.
...

Even a Toyko Electric (TEPCO) official admitted, "The radiation leak has not stopped completely and our concern is that it could eventually exceed Chernobyl."

In fact, it's multiples worse.
Nothing tried so far contained it, and vast amounts of radiation are contaminating a widespread area, including offshore, spreading it globally...
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ZIFA



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare

PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Space Bar wrote:
[/b]Nothing tried so far contained it, and vast amounts of radiation are contaminating a widespread area, including offshore, spreading it globally...


Most of the radiation has gone into the ocean. Where it will be dissipated faster than otherwise.

The airborne stuff got thinned out to safe levels before it hit land (far away).

The relatively small bit affecting humans is the stuff that got blown inland and will surely result in a permanent exclusion zone within Japan.

Even if the amount of radiation emitted was the same, so far they've gotten off pretty lightly compared to chernobyl.
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TL



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the public being lied to? Take a look at this video at the 9-minute mark to see the discrepancy in cesium-137 levels between the data given to meteorologists and the data given to the public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnRMS71OpCY
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Space Bar



Joined: 20 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TL wrote:
Is the public being lied to? Take a look at this video at the 9-minute mark to see the discrepancy in cesium-137 levels between the data given to meteorologists and the data given to the public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnRMS71OpCY

North America is screwed.
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TL



Joined: 30 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small amounts of radioactive iodine found in breast milk
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A citizen's group concerned about the impact on mothers and babies of the radioactive leaks from a crippled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture said Wednesday that small amounts of radioactive iodine have been found in the breast milk of four women living east or northeast of Tokyo.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/86719.html
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NIRS is a good site for current information on Fukushima and also on precautions to take.
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Capricious1



Joined: 06 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: interesting vidoe Reply with quote

IF someone already posted this one sorry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITrXVJMKeQ&feature=share
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Tech That Could Help Save Fukushima: Air Conditioning
By Nicholas Jackson
Apr 21 2011, 5:02 PM ET

We're running out of options here. Officials responsible for the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant need to keep the reactors as cool as possible so as to control the amount of radiation being released by critical fuel rods that were damaged when, immediately after a 9.0-magnitude earthquake crippled the region and destroyed various water-pumping systems, temperatures shot up to over 1,000 degrees Centigrade. Today, the four reactors are fluctuating between 90 and 200 degrees, largely due to a near-constant stream of fresh water being pumped over them.

That water is heavily contaminated after passing over the reactors and huge concrete storage tanks located on-site are quickly filling up (hundreds and hundreds of tons of water). Officials can figure out a long-term containment plan later, but if they run out of storage then they'll have to stop pumping in water and temperatures will skyrocket. The solution? Air conditioning.

Story continues after the gallery.
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ZIFA



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare

PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reactor building itself exploded, a blast that Japanese and US regulators have since said spread highly radioactive debris beyond the plant.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_asiapacific/view/1124420/1/.html

Suddenly it seems possible that spent fuel rods are lying in fields and countryside all around the plant.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ So was I still scare-mongering?
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend in Japan sent me this video. Interesting footage compiled into a 45 minute first-hand look at what people experienced from Tokyo to Tohoku.

Video: 2011 Japan Earthquake & Tsunami
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