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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Pluto wrote:
I read the paper everyday; two of them actually. The New York Times and the Chicago Tribune. I also watch CNN and MSNBC. Never have really watched Fox that much though. I also like to read the Wall Street Journal and watch CNBC. Anyways, I'd like to think of myself as well-informed though I certainly don't know everthing...

You call that well-informed? US intelligence has actually bragged about having plants in all the major news outlets for propaganda stories as needed. All the media you mention are owned by the same corporations in whose interest is the maintenance of the status quo. How can you hope they would be objective?

Want real news, or at least to get a perspective? Listen to or watch www.democracynow.org or www.wbai.org or any of its other four sister Pacifica stations.


you mean only sites that disagree with US policy are ok?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo, Joo, Joo.... Mad
Iran is not engaged in a war with the U.S.! There is turmoil in the region, no doubt....and Iran and the U.S. have been in a 'cool' war for nearly thirty years now! Look at Iran; it is completely surrounded by land, sea and, air by the most powerful military force in global history...perhaps they cannot help but feel like they must defend themselves in the region....and no matter what evidence you have, there is NO CONCRETE LINk between the government of Iran and the weapons found that have killed a few U.S. soldiers...none whatsoever, but a lot of baseless heresay!
Lastly with Rushdie, i don't think it's a big deal, but you beleive that the fatwa thing is a bigger issue than it is...so, if i make a rascist jew or black remark to an entire population, then pull back and say i'm sorry, that makes what i said unpunishable? if so then i rest my case....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Iran is not engaged in a war with the U.S.!


Of course there isn't but the neo-cons have shifted focus from the supposed nuclear threat to this one. Plus Ahmadinejad. Any excuse to bomb the country.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgeezer wrote:
Joo, Joo, Joo.... Mad
Iran is not engaged in a war with the U.S.! There is turmoil in the region, no doubt....and Iran and the U.S. have been in a 'cool' war for nearly thirty years now! Look at Iran; it is completely surrounded by land, sea and, air by the most powerful military force in global history...perhaps they cannot help but feel like they must defend themselves in the region....and no matter what evidence you have, there is NO CONCRETE LINk between the government of Iran and the weapons found that have killed a few U.S. soldiers...none whatsoever, but a lot of baseless heresay!
Lastly with Rushdie, i don't think it's a big deal, but you beleive that the fatwa thing is a bigger issue than it is...so, if i make a rascist jew or black remark to an entire population, then pull back and say i'm sorry, that makes what i said unpunishable? if so then i rest my case....


How is attacking US soliders defending themselves. At any rate if Iran feels the need to defend themselves that way well then they ought not complain if they get wacked.




Quote:
Shipment of high explosives intercepted in Iraq
Most sophisticated of roadside bombs reportedly coming from Iran


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8829929/




Quote:
9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran
Senior U.S. officials have told TIME that the 9/11 Commission's report will cite evidence suggesting that the 9/11 hijackers had previously passed through Iran



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html




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The American military said Tuesday that it had credible evidence linking Iranians and their Iraqi associates, detained here in raids last week, to criminal activities, including attacks against American forces. Evidence also emerged that some detainees had been involved in shipments of weapons to illegal armed groups in Iraq.




http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F0061EF635550C748EDDAB0994DE404482







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On June 25, 1996, Iran again attacked America at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, exploding a huge truck bomb that devastated Khobar Towers and murdered 19 U.S. airmen as they rested in their dormitory. These young heroes spent every day risking their lives enforcing the no-fly zone over southern Iraq; that is, protecting Iraqi Shiites from their own murderous tyrant. When I visited this horrific scene soon after the attack, I watched dozens of dedicated FBI agents combing through the wreckage in 120-degree heat, reverently handling the human remains of our brave young men. More than 400 of our Air Force men and women were wounded in this well-planned attack, and I was humbled by their courage and spirit. I later met with the families of our lost Khobar heroes and promised that we would do whatever was necessary to bring these terrorists to American justice. The courage and dignity these wonderful families have consistently exemplified has been one of the most powerful experiences of my 26 years of public service.


http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003518


Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules [
Friday, May 30, 2003 Posted: 11:14 PM EDT (0314 GMT)
Marines search through the rubble for their missing comrades after the 1983 barracks bombing in Beirut, Lebanon.



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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iran is responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing of a U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, that killed 241 American servicemen, a U.S. District Court judge ruled Friday.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/








Amir Taheri: Khomeinists hammering new strategy to oust 'Great Satan'


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But at almost exactly the same time, militants from some 40 countries spread across the globe were trekking to Tehran for a 10-day "revolutionary jamboree" in which "a new strategy to confront the American Great Satan" will be hammered out. The event is scheduled to start on February 1 to mark the 25th anniversary of the return to Iran from exile of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the "Islamic Revolution".

It is not clear how many militants will attend, but the official media promise a massive turnout to underline the Islamic Republic's position as the "throbbing heart of world resistance to American arrogance."

The guest list reads like a who-is-who of global terror.

In fact, most of the organisations attending the event, labelled "Ten-Days of Dawn", are branded by the US and some European Union members as terrorist outfits. For more than two decades, Tehran has been a magnet for militant groups from many different national and ideological backgrounds.

The Islamic Republic's hospitality cuts across even religious divides. Militant Sunni organisations, including two linked to Al Qaida, Ansar al-Islam (Companions of Islam) and Hizb Islami (The Islamic Party), enjoy Iranian hospitality.

They are joined by Latin American guerrilla outfits, clandestine Irish organisations, Basque and Corsican separatists, and a variety of leftist groups from Spartacists to Trotskyites and Guevarists. Tehran is the only capital where all the Palestinian militant movements have offices and, in some cases, training and financial facilities.




http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/04/01/28/109235.html

U.S.: Top Iran officials ordering bombs to Iraq
Orders to send armor-piercing bombs came from highest levels, official says

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17097658/



They support Hizzbollah who counterfeits US money and sells drugs.

The regime also teaches hate and incites violence one of the biggest causes of terror is that mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence.


They might also be behind the death squads in Iraq and inciting the violence there.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman

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Of course there isn't but the neo-cons have shifted focus from the supposed nuclear threat to this one. Plus Ahmadinejad. Any excuse to bomb the country.



Quote:
Shipment of high explosives intercepted in Iraq
Most sophisticated of roadside bombs reportedly coming from Iran


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8829929/




Quote:
9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran
Senior U.S. officials have told TIME that the 9/11 Commission's report will cite evidence suggesting that the 9/11 hijackers had previously passed through Iran



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html



Quote:
The American military said Tuesday that it had credible evidence linking Iranians and their Iraqi associates, detained here in raids last week, to criminal activities, including attacks against American forces. Evidence also emerged that some detainees had been involved in shipments of weapons to illegal armed groups in Iraq.




http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F0061EF635550C748EDDAB0994DE404482







Quote:
On June 25, 1996, Iran again attacked America at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, exploding a huge truck bomb that devastated Khobar Towers and murdered 19 U.S. airmen as they rested in their dormitory. These young heroes spent every day risking their lives enforcing the no-fly zone over southern Iraq; that is, protecting Iraqi Shiites from their own murderous tyrant. When I visited this horrific scene soon after the attack, I watched dozens of dedicated FBI agents combing through the wreckage in 120-degree heat, reverently handling the human remains of our brave young men. More than 400 of our Air Force men and women were wounded in this well-planned attack, and I was humbled by their courage and spirit. I later met with the families of our lost Khobar heroes and promised that we would do whatever was necessary to bring these terrorists to American justice. The courage and dignity these wonderful families have consistently exemplified has been one of the most powerful experiences of my 26 years of public service.






http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003518


Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules [
Friday, May 30, 2003 Posted: 11:14 PM EDT (0314 GMT)
Marines search through the rubble for their missing comrades after the 1983 barracks bombing in Beirut, Lebanon.


Quote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iran is responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing of a U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, that killed 241 American servicemen, a U.S. District Court judge ruled Friday
.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/








Amir Taheri: Khomeinists hammering new strategy to oust 'Great Satan'
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But at almost exactly the same time, militants from some 40 countries spread across the globe were trekking to Tehran for a 10-day "revolutionary jamboree" in which "a new strategy to confront the American Great Satan" will be hammered out. The event is scheduled to start on February 1 to mark the 25th anniversary of the return to Iran from exile of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the "Islamic Revolution".

It is not clear how many militants will attend, but the official media promise a massive turnout to underline the Islamic Republic's position as the "throbbing heart of world resistance to American arrogance."

The guest list reads like a who-is-who of global terror.

In fact, most of the organisations attending the event, labelled "Ten-Days of Dawn", are branded by the US and some European Union members as terrorist outfits. For more than two decades, Tehran has been a magnet for militant groups from many different national and ideological backgrounds.

The Islamic Republic's hospitality cuts across even religious divides. Militant Sunni organisations, including two linked to Al Qaida, Ansar al-Islam (Companions of Islam) and Hizb Islami (The Islamic Party), enjoy Iranian hospitality.

They are joined by Latin American guerrilla outfits, clandestine Irish organisations, Basque and Corsican separatists, and a variety of leftist groups from Spartacists to Trotskyites and Guevarists. Tehran is the only capital where all the Palestinian militant movements have offices and, in some cases, training and financial facilities.




http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/04/01/28/109235.html

U.S.: Top Iran officials ordering bombs to Iraq
Orders to send armor-piercing bombs came from highest levels, official says


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17097658/



They support Hizzbollah who counterfeits US money and sells drugs.


They might also be behind the death squads in Iraq and inciting the violence there.


The regime also teaches hate and incites violence. One of the biggest reasons for terror is that mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgeezer"]!
Lastly with Rushdie, i don't think it's a big deal, but you beleive that the fatwa thing is a bigger issue than it is...so, if i make a rascist jew or black remark to an entire population, then pull back and say i'm sorry, that makes what i said unpunishable? if so then i rest my case....[/quote]


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July 13, 1991

Japanese Translator of Rushdie Book Found Slain
By STEVEN R. WEISMAN
OKYO, July 12 -- The Japanese translator of "The Satanic Verses," by Salman Rushdie, was found slain today at a university northeast of Tokyo.

The translator, Hitoshi Igarashi, 44 years old, was an assistant professor of comparative culture who reportedly studied in Iran in the 1970's. The police said he was stabbed several times on Thursday night and left in the hallway outside his office at Tsukuba University.



Anyway what is the evidence that the US can trust Iran to keep any agreement? They made a promise to lift the death sentance they didn't.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They support Hizzbollah who counterfeits US money and sells drugs.

The regime also teaches hate and incites violence one of the biggest causes of terror is that mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence.



Do you think bombing them will stop that?

Quote:

They might also be behind the death squads in Iraq and inciting the violence there.


US presence in Iraq is inciting violence there. Iran probably is giving support to some insurgent groups. But Iraq is right next door. This is not the same as giving support to the 9/11 hijakers or any sort of attack on America.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="catman"]
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They support Hizzbollah who counterfeits US money and sells drugs.

The regime also teaches hate and incites violence one of the biggest causes of terror is that mideast regimes teach hate and incite violence.


Quote:

Do you think bombing them will stop that?



If the US has a way to scare a government yes.

Quote:

US presence in Iraq is inciting violence there. Iran probably is giving support to some insurgent groups. But Iraq is right next door. This is not the same as giving support to the 9/11 hijakers or any sort of attack on America.


Well Iran is responsibe for what they do. And you know what I said is the way to fix them for it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again Joo, your argument is strong, but directed at the wrong party.....
You say we can't trust Iran...I agree, Iran is not a perfect government and i'm not trying to defend everything they do....
But Joo, after the invasion of Iraq, how can anyone trust the united states ever again? I mean invading a country and delcaring war on a sovereign nation that presented absolutely no danger to the u.s....and moreover the reason for invasion was a 100% lie, and UNCOVERED SINCE THEN!! On the contrary my friend, it is the U.S. government that cannot be trusted!

Let's look at hezbollah...why were they created? Here's a history lesson...they were formed in response to Israel's brutal, and illegal entrance and occupation of the soveriegn state of Lebanon....not because one day, someone thought hey let's make this group up and kill people for no reason....
Again, they MAY do some illegal activities such as drug smuggling and such, but your sources at MSNBC cannot be trusted for a pinch of coon poop....furthermore, it is a FRACTION of the scale that the U.S. is involved and has been involved in...remember all those terrorist campaigns the U.S. undertook in latin amierca during the 1980's to prop-up brutal dictators? How did they get the black money to support these cronies? Illegal sales of drugs and weapons....

All i want you to do Joo, and i speak for everyone who reads your posts, is to acknowledge the fact that, everything illegal and immoral you accuse Iran of doing has been done by the U.S. on a MUCH LARGER SCALE!!! that's it! Just admit that they are criminals as well and don't deserve the right to invade another country simply because it's "In Their Interest"
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

="mcgeezer"]Again Joo, your argument is strong, but directed at the wrong party.....
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You say we can't trust Iran...I agree, Iran is not a perfect government and i'm not trying to defend everything they do....
But Joo, after the invasion of Iraq, how can anyone trust the united states ever again? I mean invading a country and delcaring war on a sovereign nation that presented absolutely no danger to the u.s....and moreover the reason for invasion was a 100% lie, and UNCOVERED SINCE THEN!! On the contrary my friend, it is the U.S. government that cannot be trusted
!


Saddam was out to take Kuwait.

He shot at US planes .

His regime was not legit.

More than that the mideast as it was was a threat to the US.

The US never invaded Iraq to invade Iraq the US invaded Iraq to invade the mideast.

Saddam's regime was not legit and he never gave up his war.

so the Soverign nation doesn't hold up well.

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Let's look at hezbollah...why were they created? Here's a history lesson...they were formed in response to Israel's brutal, and illegal entrance and occupation of the soveriegn state of Lebanon....not because one day, someone thought hey let's make this group up and kill people for no reason....


Israel was being hit from Lebanon by a group who had a goal of destroying Israel. That doesn't contadict what you say but it completes the information.

and Hizzbollah does kill people for no reason.

Quote:


Iran charged over Argentina bomb

The blast was the worst terror attack in Argentina's history
The Iranian government and Lebanese militia group Hezbollah have been formally charged over the 1994 bombing of a Jewish centre in Buenos Aires.
Argentine prosecutors are calling for the arrest of former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani and seven others.

Chief prosecutor Alberto Nisman accused the Iranian authorities of directing Hezbollah to carry out the attack.


Hezbollah and Iran both deny that they were involved in the blast, which killed 85 and wounded 300.

The blast, on 18 July 1994, reduced the seven-storey Jewish-Argentine Mutual Association (AMIA) community centre in Buenos Aires to rubble.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6085768.stm











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Again, they MAY do some illegal activities such as drug smuggling and such, but your sources at MSNBC cannot be trusted for a pinch of coon poop....furthermore, it is a FRACTION of the scale that the U.S. is involved and has been involved in...remember all those terrorist campaigns the U.S. undertook in latin amierca during the 1980's to prop-up brutal dictators? How did they get the black money to support these cronies? Illegal sales of drugs and weapons...
.

The bad people the US supported were no worse than those who those who were trying to overthrow the regimes and one of the targets were the Sandanistas.



Here is perspective.

It does not contradict what you say but it completes what you say.
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We shipped weapons, Sandinistas say

By GLENN GARVIN
Herald Staff Writer

MANAGUA -- When Ronald Reagan and Sandinista leaders slugged it out during
the 1980s over what was going on in Nicaragua, Reagan was right more often
than they liked to admit, the Sandinistas have admitted.

In a series of interviews with The Herald as the 20th anniversary of their July 19,
1979, rise to power approaches, several past and present Sandinista officials
confirmed for the first time that they shipped weapons to Marxist guerrillas in
neighboring El Salvador.

The Sandinistas also said that the Soviet Union agreed to supply them with MiG
jet fighters and even arranged for Nicaraguan pilots to be trained on the planes in
Bulgaria. But the Soviets reneged on the deal, sending the Sandinistas scurrying
to make peace with the contras, the officials said.

``The Sandinista leadership thought they could be Che Guevaras of all Latin
America, from Mexico to Antarctica,'' former Sandinista leader Moises Hassan
told The Herald. ``The domino theory wasn't so crazy.''

During their explosive battles with Congress over U.S. aid to anti-Sandinista
rebels in Nicaragua, Reagan administration officials frequently justified helping the
rebels on the grounds that the Sandinistas were shipping arms to the Salvadoran
guerrillas.

Reagan's deputies also accused the Sandinistas of planning to acquire the MiGs,
a move that they warned that the U.S. ``would view with the utmost concern.'' In
1984, when American officials spotted large crates being unloaded from Soviet
ships in Nicaraguan ports, there was a widespread fear that the two countries
would go to war. But the crates turned out to contain helicopters, and tensions
eased.

Sandinista leaders always denied that they supplying the Salvadoran guerrillas.
``We are not responsible for what is happening in El Salvador,'' said Sandinista
party cofounder Tomas Borge in 1980 in a typical speech. ``We are only guilty of
our example and we cannot help it if our example reaches other places....There
will never be any aggression from our country against any other country.''

But earlier this month, Borge and former president Daniel Ortega both admitted
the denials were false. They said the Sandinistas had shipped arms to Salvadoran
guerrillas because the Salvadorans helped them in their successful insurrection
against Anastasio Somoza, and also because they thought it would be more
difficult for the United States to attack two revolutionary regimes instead of just
one.

``We wanted to broaden the territory of the revolution, to make it wider, so it would
be harder for the Americans to come after us,'' Borge said. Ortega added that it
was ``amatter of ethics'' to arm the Salvadorans.

Neither man offered details on how many weapons were supplied to the
Salvadorans. But a former Sandinista official -- Moises Hassan, who was a
member of the revolutionary junta that governed Nicaragua in the early 1980s --
said he believed about 50,000 weapons and a corresponding amount of
ammunition were sent to El Salvador just in the first 16 months of the Sandinista
government.






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All i want you to do Joo, and i speak for everyone who reads your posts, is to acknowledge the fact that, everything illegal and immoral you accuse Iran of doing has been done by the U.S. on a MUCH LARGER SCALE!!! that's it! Just admit that they are criminals as well and don't deserve the right to invade another country simply because it's "In Their Interest"


No usually the US fights for a good cause or at least an understandable cause.


The US invaded Iraq to force mideast regimes to stop inciting violence and teaching hate and to get them to get rid of the terrorists.

on a seperate issue.

Since Saddam never gave up his war he had it coming.

Saddam intended to kill off the Kurds to let him do that would have been immoral.

Saddam also intended to retake Kuwait were he free to do so.

One of the reasons Saddam wanted Kuwait was to gain control of gulf oil in order to break the west.

He had no right to Kuwait and the US didn't have to let hin have it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're wrong JOO, the neo-cons who srote "The New American Century" were targeting Iraq 15 years ago to coontrol the worlds energy supplies...next stop: Iran end of story my friend
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Forget the showdown, the only way America can beat Iran is with a Hoedown. It'd have a lot less pointless deaths and won't make America look so stupid on the International Scene.



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcgeezer wrote:
You're wrong JOO, the neo-cons who srote "The New American Century" were targeting Iraq 15 years ago to coontrol the worlds energy supplies...next stop: Iran end of story my friend


No they thought it would be good to change the mideast and 9-11 was evidence that they were correct.



The project for a New American Centery says the US ought to protect its interests and not rely on international insituations like the UN to protect its security nor ought the US enter into treaties that restrict US power without giving the US anything in return.



This was the real reason for the war.




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Thomas L. Friedman
New York Times Op-Ed Columnist
Wednesday, June 4, 2003 Posted: 7:02 AM EDT (1102 GMT)
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The failure of the Bush team to produce any weapons of mass destruction (W.M.D.'s) in Iraq is becoming a big, big story. But is it the real story we should be concerned with? No. It was the wrong issue before the war, and it's the wrong issue now.

Why? Because there were actually four reasons for this war: the real reason, the right reason, the moral reason and the stated reason.

The "real reason" for this war, which was never stated, was that after 9/11 America needed to hit someone in the Arab-Muslim world. Afghanistan wasn't enough because a terrorism bubble had built up over there � a bubble that posed a real threat to the open societies of the West and needed to be punctured. This terrorism bubble said that plowing airplanes into the World Trade Center was O.K., having Muslim preachers say it was O.K. was O.K., having state-run newspapers call people who did such things "martyrs" was O.K. and allowing Muslim charities to raise money for such "martyrs" was O.K. Not only was all this seen as O.K., there was a feeling among radical Muslims that suicide bombing would level the balance of power between the Arab world and the West, because we had gone soft and their activists were ready to die.

The only way to puncture that bubble was for American soldiers, men and women, to go into the heart of the Arab-Muslim world, house to house, and make clear that we are ready to kill, and to die, to prevent our open society from being undermined by this terrorism bubble. Smashing Saudi Arabia or Syria would have been fine. But we hit Saddam for one simple reason: because we could, and because he deserved it and because he was right in the heart of that world. And don't believe the nonsense that this had no effect. Every neighboring government � and 98 percent of terrorism is about what governments let happen � got the message. If you talk to U.S. soldiers in Iraq they will tell you this is what the war was about.


http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/04/nyt.friedman/


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dome Vans wrote:
Forget the showdown, the only way America can beat Iran is with a Hoedown. It'd have a lot less pointless deaths and won't make America look so stupid on the International Scene.


PROJECT THOR (RODS FROM GOD) is the answer for Iran's nuclear program.

If Iran behaves themselves then they won't have a problem. If they do any kind of terror attack like at Kobar then they will loose their nuclear program. Iran's nuclear program is not longer an asset but rather a hostage. Most everything Iran wanted to gain from having nuclear weapons is now gone
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