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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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I have nothing against that, but I am saying it doesn't fit the definition of current unless Daniel Webster changed the dictionary.
Using another definition of current would make Charles De Gaulle current. |
Wolfman Jack died in 1995. He was last relevant roundabout 1983.
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People should feel free to post conspiracy stuff, but those who disagree with their posts can rightly say their stuff is political but maybe, at most, loosely current. They are modern events, but not current ones.
If one posts a new article about MLK as there was one on the BBC site in the Americas section that would be current. It's from the news... |
I went to google news and typed "jfk assassination":
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A treat for JFK theorists
Chicago Sun-Times, United States - Mar 23, 2008
Lyndon Johnson, as well as others, assumed Castro played a role in JFK's assassination. The US government's willingness to employ mob help to get rid of ...
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Nowhere, come on now. What can you contribute in terms of possible solutions? |
I believe I made my points in the post just above where I was barbed in a veiled way.
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| It is not certain how this stalking comment, may not be helpful. |
This stalking comment was a tongue-in-cheek response to someone who puts motives in my head and words in my mouth regularly accusing me of putting motives in his head and words in his mouth.
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| OTOH and Ya-Ta-Boy and Manner of Speaking offered good suggestions. However, they do not post these threads. It would be good to have those who post these types of thread weigh in on these things. |
I don't post these threads, either.
Regicide has pointed out on most of the "Down with Conspiracy Theorists!" threads that he's willing to keep JFK on one thread. That sounds fine.
And again, as I've eluded to elsewhere, why don't you just give that a go. Give it a month to see how it works. I see no need for a rush to make some final decision. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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The Kennedy Assassination (JFK) is a current event. It has been since the day it happened.
The cries of "conspiracy" began the same day. They have never ceased. The government has covered up details, hidden and destroyed evidence, and just plain lied. But, we still have questions and doubts. They have never stopped. The "event" is still current. Many are bored with it, not interested or have already made up their own minds. It's still important to others. They should carry on.
There should be threads for: JFK, RFK, MLK, and the George Wallace assassination attempt as well, if anyone is interested. These are all current. They do not need multiple threads, but one for each while posters are interested.
Being mentioned by the mainstream media in the world of infotainment is not the only measure of being a current event.
The JFK assassination is a current event because it has never stopped being a current event. |
Well put. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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You did read that I studied politics, was a political activist. There is nothing new in this video for me. I was against the war from the beginning, and I was stating that over a year before the war and was warning about this, and I also told colleagues at my former workplace that the war would backfire and bombs would go off in Iraq when they thought the war was over (mission accomplished). As far as Bush remembering what he saw, Bush fumbles. Giving Bush too much credit for orchestrating things on his own is a bit rich. I also know about Bush senior and the Sabah family working with Knowlton Hill to sell the American people the baby incubator story. It's a matter of powerful Republicans who had a certain agenda in the world and in the Middle East, and as Noam Chomsky (though I know some don't like him) said, the people must be lied to somewhat to carry out the agenda.
The video is extremely sensationalist with the skull and bones images
and the dead babies. It is very propagandistic rather than focusing on the facts. As one prominent US historian said America has an empire, and many will do what they can to maintain, but you are going in all these crazy conspiracies that no empire has ever had. It is simple an empire trying to keep its place, and the US had no empire when Lincoln was around. It's Real Politik of an empire.
It is a bit rich to suggest a Catholic order, the Jesuits, are in cahoots with the Federal Reserve. What is the evidence the fact that one of the founders of the Jesuits was also a free mason? Also, showing some priests with the Nazis doesn't put things in proper context. So many things are just taken out of context it appears. I am open-minded, but as a historian and a political science person, the methodology is extremely and ideologically flawed for propagandistic purposes.
The film takes actions of an empire and twists it.... I don't agree with the empire, but I certainly don't agree with the film's propagandistic agenda.
Thanks, anyway, I am sure you are a well-meaning fellow, but I have seen ideas like this before. They are not new... |
While I certainly do not subscribe to everything in that video, it was one I had recently watched and thought it would give you a first approximation. Parts of it were certainly OTT. I didn't realize you studied PoliSci. |
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redredwine
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Location: John 15-13
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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It's been done to death, indeed. But now our resident conspiracy-monger is taking up another Kennedy killing, this time with Bobby. 
I think the continued presence of so many similar threads on this forum speaks volumes about the efficacy of the MOD Team. |
I think that the total lack of post reports from specific users about such similar threads/posts speaks volumes about whether they consider this a big deal worth getting up in arms about. |
Yet the polls refute this? |
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