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Tell me about what Muslims ever achieved..........
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tomato



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ED209, I wish this were Yahoo Answers.
Then I could give you a thumbs up.
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Day Man



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
umm, algebra? Who wrote this thread? Did they go to any kinda school? stupid!
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Konglishman



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kuros wrote:
tomato wrote:
They invented algebra.


The Greeks knew about algebra. Pythagoras' school almost certainly did. But it was suppressed from the public.

But, yes, the Islamic world may have independently fashioned the algebraic language we use today.


Yes, the Greeks had Algebra, but my point is that there was no shorthand mathematical language such as =, +, -, etc. All of the Algebraic operations were expressed in words. This is what is known as rhetorical Algebra.

The Indians, on the other hand, developed a symbolic Algebra which then got passed along to the Arabs. Incidentally, our number system also comes from India.

Finally, the Arabic mathematician Al-Khwarizmi whose name is the root of the Algebra, clearly learned his methods from having read works written by Indian mathematicians. In fact, the title of one of his books translates into "On the Calculation with Hindu Numerals".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_algebra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diophantus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryabhata
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Musa_al-Khwarizmi
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Ivor



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Torpedo.. Reply with quote
I do remember watching a program on History Channel, in which they discussed the history of Torpedo <a missile type>..

They gave that invention to the muslims..

and Also the word Admiral is an arabic word, I just learned Smile

So, they did have an influence on science...but I guess with decline as world power, the emerging nations rewrote the history..

As they say "History is written by the victor himself"
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Kimbop



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveMcK wrote:
Kimbop wrote:

A better question would be: what have muslims contributed to humanity within the past four centuries; arguably the most important years of the galaxy's 12-20 billion?



What has Christianity contributed to humanity in all it's existence apart from a skewed vision of spirituality designed to control the masses?



We're not discussing Christianity; we're discussing Islam. Sure, the Christians gave Galileo a run for his money, but that's a different can of worms. If you're looking for a valid counterargument for the topic at hand, consider secularism. You dumdum.

DaveMcK wrote:

And, can I ask, what is your argument for these past 4 centuries being the most important in the galaxy's '12-20 billion'?


Oh, I don't know... things like technology, human rights, rule of law, social safety nets, freedom, cures for Polio, Diptheria, Tetanus, etc. (In the western/secular world, anyhow..) Humanity has flourished arguably moreso in the last 400 years than in its entire history. Ain't ya heard? Name another half-millenium in which humanity has accomplished more.
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DaveMcK



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kimbop wrote:
DaveMcK wrote:
Kimbop wrote:

A better question would be: what have muslims contributed to humanity within the past four centuries; arguably the most important years of the galaxy's 12-20 billion?



What has Christianity contributed to humanity in all it's existence apart from a skewed vision of spirituality designed to control the masses?



We're not discussing Christianity; we're discussing Islam. Sure, the Christians gave Galileo a run for his money, but that's a different can of worms. If you're looking for a valid counterargument for the topic at hand, consider secularism. You dumdum.



I'm just asking the question. Don't you have an answer?



Kimbop wrote:
DaveMcK wrote:

And, can I ask, what is your argument for these past 4 centuries being the most important in the galaxy's '12-20 billion'?


Oh, I don't know... things like technology, human rights, rule of law, social safety nets, freedom, cures for Polio, Diptheria, Tetanus, etc. (In the western/secular world, anyhow..) Humanity has flourished arguably moreso in the last 400 years than in its entire history. Ain't ya heard? Name another half-millenium in which humanity has accomplished more.


Ahh, my bad: I was forgetting we are the most important thing in the galaxy, ever.
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Kimbop



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveMcK wrote:


I'm just asking the question. Don't you have an answer?


I couldn;t possibly care less. Your question lacks pertinence; start another topic.

DaveMcK wrote:


Ahh, my bad: I was forgetting we are the most important thing in the galaxy, ever.


That's correct. You now stand enlightened. (Unless you have something to add, which you evidently do not)
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DaveMcK



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kimbop wrote:
DaveMcK wrote:


I'm just asking the question. Don't you have an answer?


I couldn;t possibly care less. Your question lacks pertinence; start another topic.

DaveMcK wrote:


Ahh, my bad: I was forgetting we are the most important thing in the galaxy, ever.


That's correct. You now stand enlightened. (Unless you have something to add, which you evidently do not)


According to who and for what reason?
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Kimbop



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveMcK wrote:
Kimbop wrote:
DaveMcK wrote:


I'm just asking the question. Don't you have an answer?


I couldn;t possibly care less. Your question lacks pertinence; start another topic.

DaveMcK wrote:


Ahh, my bad: I was forgetting we are the most important thing in the galaxy, ever.


That's correct. You now stand enlightened. (Unless you have something to add, which you evidently do not)


According to who and for what reason?


I'm not sure what you're asking of me.. Am I missing something here? Are you asking me why humanity is the most important aspect of our galaxy? YOU wrote it!!

This exchanhge is rather silly. If you can name something more important than humanity, such as Utopian martians, please share./
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DaveMcK



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
There are shitloads of important physical properties of the galaxy that result in conditions being conducive to life on Earth. I think, in terms of the galaxy, humanity is very far off the top of the list of 'important aspects'.
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Kimbop



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
DaveMcK wrote:
There are shitloads of important physical properties of the galaxy that result in conditions being conducive to life on Earth.


Thanks for naming ONE !!*

*Oh wait a second... YOU DIDN"T !!

Concur: the greatest accomplishment of our known universe is the alignment of "important physical properties" resulting in "life on Earth". I'm just copying what you wrote!

Nomatter how important you consider the black holes of Omega Centauri to be, thank allah the stars have aligned to give us the most important aspect of the known universe: humanity!

Stop posting! What are you trying to prove!?

DaveMcK wrote:

I think, in terms of the galaxy, humanity is very far off the top of the list of 'important aspects'.


Thanks for providing an example of your 'important aspects'.*

*Oh, wait a second, you didn't!!
This is the silliest debate I've ever been a part of, and I'm ashamed that I'm in it.
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