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Gopher
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| The General Assembly is an indication of world view not just the few members in the little club. |
Whatever.
Still not the Security Council. Get off your high horse and get your facts straight, Cheeseface.
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cheeseface
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| Gopher wrote: |
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| And why is Iran so against the US and Israel...[?] |
Here we go...
Why, Cheeseface? |
Not sure, hoping you could shine some light on that one... |
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Big_Bird
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Gopher
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure you are, Cheeseface. This has been a predictable exercise. Good luck and goodbye. |
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cheeseface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| cheeseface wrote: |
| The General Assembly is an indication of world view not just the few members in the little club. |
Whatever.
Still not the Security Council. Get off your high horse and get your facts straight, Cheeseface. |
So you have no respect for the views of the majority of the countries in the world on their stance towards Israel? |
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cheeseface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Sure you are, Cheeseface. This has been a predictable exercise. Good luck and goodbye. |
Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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President-elect Barack Obama's earlier thoughts on these developments as they appeared last summer...
NBC Today |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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But any day the president of Iran can clearly throw light on what he meant. Not answer with another question as he always does. If he thinks what he said was misinterpreted they he ought to say so clearly and what he meant. |
He did shed light on what he said.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel
But from that wiki the difference of opinions and statement from people who are supposedly qualified in the matter contradict each other greatly. |
sounds like he was being intentionly vague as in leaving his options open.
The UN General Assembly is a dictators club where corruption and selective criticism is the norm. Talk about Sudan much? How about North Korea? Saddam's Iraq? Zimbabwe?
You will never see any word of China's occupation of Tibet? Cause there is an understanding between China and certain third world nations not to raise the issue.
The UN isn't about morality or justice .
The UN General Assembly sided with the USSR during the cold war.
The UN for the most part only is interested in condeming the actions of one side.
If a UN resolution is selective and one sided why is it good?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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cheeseface
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Random link does not answer the question.
Are you going to answer why Iran is so against the US and Israel?
An article from October of this years doesn't really cut it does it. |
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cheeseface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
If a UN resolution is selective and one sided why is it good? |
It's not one sided though is it? Just because it goes against the US or Israel doesn't mean it is one sided. That is your mind set. You have to forget the "You're with us or against us" crap. That's when the US went down the toilet in most of the world's eyes.
Time to change the record and step up and play fairly with the global community. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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If a UN resolution is selective and one sided why is it good? |
It's not one sided though is it? Just because it goes against the US or Israel doesn't mean it is one sided. That is your mind set. You have to forget the "You're with us or against us" crap. That's when the US went down the toilet in most of the world's eyes.
Time to change the record and step up and play fairly with the global community. |
It is one sided when only one side is condemned.
Like when the UN wanted to condemn Israel for killing the leader of Hamas but refused to add in language that condemed Hamas for sucide bombings and or the option of a second resolution against Hamas.
What Bush meant by you are either with us or against us was that if nations of the world want to have normal trade or diplomatic ties with the US then they have to help out in the war on terror. The US is under no obligation to have trade or diplomatic ties with any nation it doesn't want to.
anyway here is the UN in action
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Zimbabwe retains human rights role
From CNN Producer Liz Neisloss
Thursday, April 28, 2005 Posted: 0136 GMT (0936 HKT)
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Over U.S. opposition that branded Zimbabwe an "entirely inappropriate" choice, Zimbabwe was re-elected Wednesday to the U.N. Commission on Human Rights |
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/04/27/zimbawe.un/index.html
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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Random link does not answer the question.
Are you going to answer why Iran is so against the US and Israel?
An article from October of this years doesn't really cut it does it. |
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| What you have in Iran is a country that is very good at projecting power throughout the Middle East. What they are attempting to do, whether they succeed or not, is essentially build an empire in the Middle East. They justify this imperialistic expansion through an anti-colonial message�for instance, the liberation of Lebanon, of Palestine, etc.�and they have been extraordinarily effective at doing this. I don�t know of any other instance in history where anybody has tried it this way. Past Persian empires have always done this through invasion and occupation. It�s more like an empire by proxy, which is something that�s hard for the average person to understand |
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cheeseface
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| cheeseface wrote: |
Random link does not answer the question.
Are you going to answer why Iran is so against the US and Israel?
An article from October of this years doesn't really cut it does it. |
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| What you have in Iran is a country that is very good at projecting power throughout the Middle East. What they are attempting to do, whether they succeed or not, is essentially build an empire in the Middle East. They justify this imperialistic expansion through an anti-colonial message�for instance, the liberation of Lebanon, of Palestine, etc.�and they have been extraordinarily effective at doing this. I don�t know of any other instance in history where anybody has tried it this way. Past Persian empires have always done this through invasion and occupation. It�s more like an empire by proxy, which is something that�s hard for the average person to understand |
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Your quote details the state of Iranian influence now. It does not address why Iran is so against the US and Israel. As far as I'm aware Iran has been against the US and Israels for decades. Any reason why? |
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cheeseface
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| cheeseface wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
If a UN resolution is selective and one sided why is it good? |
It's not one sided though is it? Just because it goes against the US or Israel doesn't mean it is one sided. That is your mind set. You have to forget the "You're with us or against us" crap. That's when the US went down the toilet in most of the world's eyes.
Time to change the record and step up and play fairly with the global community. |
It is one sided when only one side is condemned.
Like when the UN wanted to condemn Israel for killing the leader of Hamas but refused to add in language that condemed Hamas for sucide bombings and or the option of a second resolution against Hamas.
What Bush meant by you are either with us or against us was that if nations of the world want to have normal trade or diplomatic ties with the US then they have to help out in the war on terror. The US is under no obligation to have trade or diplomatic ties with any nation it doesn't want to.
anyway here is the UN in action
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Zimbabwe retains human rights role
From CNN Producer Liz Neisloss
Thursday, April 28, 2005 Posted: 0136 GMT (0936 HKT)
UNITED NATIONS (CNN) -- Over U.S. opposition that branded Zimbabwe an "entirely inappropriate" choice, Zimbabwe was re-elected Wednesday to the U.N. Commission on Human Rights |
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/04/27/zimbawe.un/index.html |
So the world votes to re-instate a evil man on to the UN human rights commission. Democracy. The US are the ones who want to spread democracy around the world, you are just not happy when democracy goes against what the US wants.
I'm not happy with Zimbabwe being re-elected, but I was not happy with Bush being elected.
Your just a no good commie aren't you? As long as everyone agrees with the US's paradigm you are happy, if not you don't like it. Tough. |
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