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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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My advice is to circumcise. Let me tell my compelling story.
As teenager I was member of an ingroup with pronounced peer pressure . All the others in the group were circumcised, as per regular practice in South Africa. I was the odd one out, not circumcised, NOT. .
It mightn't have been so bad, but one boy had a novel joke, which he kept at fever pitch. For one reason that it was quite funny and another that he was quite influential, it got a lot of attention .
Joke was about a group of boys doing farts in a kinda competition that the one who did the longest loudest was star and winner. Then this one boy had no fart worth mentioning, but he improvised and pulled out his shloong, ok and proceeded to withdraw his foreskin back and fan the length about... in the room.. in an endeavor to make worthwhile pong.
This joke always brought the house down and eventually attention always turned to me on a regular basis. It's quite difficult for me to even regale this story as the memories flood back. I've had to be brave.
At times I felt like simply cutting it off. Good thing I didn't, b/c when it was later done in an operation, it was quite a big deal, we're talking stitches and so forth. .. I had forced myself to approach my parents and simply tell them with note of finality that I wanted it done. They were surprisingly amenable and I remember my father saying that many soldiers prior to going to war in the desert had it done.
I had immediately understood his meaning. Imagine going with say 4 or 5 days without bathing then coming across a delectable Arab lady, how embarrassed you'd be.
What I'm saying is that you never know, especially as a youngster when the pleasures of the flesh are going to be available.
And there you are, let's face it it doesn't look very inviting, but then to have the unflattering look confirmed by an unnecessary miff is doing noone any good.
Certainly I've never had need for "lost" feeling, if anything, it's been still too much. .. |
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Omkara

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Good and informative posts! Learning a lot. Thanks. |
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Tarmangani

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: the Calm
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Circumcision is unnecessary.
From a hygienic standpoint, I already spend more time properly and thoroughly washing down there so cleaning under the foreskin is simply a pleasure.
Aesthetically speaking, any dude that's checking it out is a fag, and any chick that's been up close and personal with enough cocks to have a preference is a *beep* who won't even get close to my foreskin, because I'll be double bagging it with her. |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: |
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im cut, my dick is moneeeeeyyyy
cut dicks are just better, and more presentable
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Tarmangani wrote: |
Circumcision is unnecessary.
From a hygienic standpoint, I already spend more time properly and thoroughly washing down there so cleaning under the foreskin is simply a pleasure.
Aesthetically speaking, any dude that's checking it out is a fag, and any chick that's been up close and personal with enough cocks to have a preference is a *beep* who won't even get close to my foreskin, because I'll be double bagging it with her. |
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clearly youre inexperienced and your dick is small. Moreover, you like girls who are bad in bed, thus inexperienced. Put the lid back on the tub of vasoline that resides on your desk and stop saying such condescending things |
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bogey666

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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personal tale
from someone who CHOSE to get snipped in his late 20's. (that first week was NOT fun)
I always had irritability issues with that thing, and it wasn't for lack of hygiene. But sex would often leave it irritated/reddened and I was progressively annoyed by this.
Also, frankly, it was TOO sensitive.
Finally I got sick and tired of this and chose to cut it.
Have never regretted the decision. I don't think most women care one way or the other, but out of the ones that DO, I'd bet most would prefer the cut version (just more aesthetically pleasing? or perhaps it's a cultural thing, as American gals are used to cut ones?)
anyways. Bottom line? as mentioned no regrets, and given the AIDS data that has surfaced perhaps it's even saved me from catching the big HIV as data shows that non snipped guys are far more susceptible to catching the virus because of the large concentration of Langerhans cells on the foreskin.
I still have my sensitivity but it's much better now because it's not as intense... which makes it better for me and my prospective partner(s).
So.. for ME, it was a good decision.
Ultimately it's a deeply personal decision, but just because my choice fit me, I'm not sure I would rush to perform the deed on any male offspring.
This way, they get a choice. (I don't really buy this reversibility stuff)
sure it sucks to get it done as an adult, but after a week it's no big deal. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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But I would have no negative opinion of parents who chose not to, either. But, if they did have it done for religious reasons, I'd have a negative opinion.
No child should be born into a religion, but should have the right to choose it.
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I think you are being unfair. I'm cut. My mother is Jewish and my father is Christian (both are nominally religious and aren't seen in a house of worship other than Weddings and funerals). My parents argued whether I should be circumsized (my father isn't). Basically, it came down to them doing what they thought was best for me, I would NOT be able to be Jewish if I wasn't cut - and getting cut while being a baby far outweighed the cons of being cut at a later stage (either before my 13th birthday or in adulthood) while being cut would not hurt effect my ability to be Christian. Thus by doing that, they weren't forcing me into a religion, rather making it easier for me to pursue a religion if I so chose. I was also christened as a baby. (For the record, I'm not religious, was never confirmed nor had a Barmitzvah, but due to my circumcision and 'bris' certificate I'd be eligible for Israeli citizenship).
Finally, my Beep is plenty sensitive, if it was 50% more sensitive as other poster's suggest I'd definitly be a candidate for premature ejaculation as well having to carry a spare pair of underwear everytime I went down a bumpy road  |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:00 am Post subject: |
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tattooing - unnecessary.
mormonism - unnecessary.
circumcision - unnecessary. |
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Tarmangani

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: the Calm
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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clearly youre inexperienced and your dick is small. Moreover, you like girls who are bad in bed, thus inexperienced. Put the lid back on the tub of vasoline that resides on your desk and stop saying such condescending things[/quote]
Clearly, only a size queen would ponder an anonymous poster's dick size.
Clearly, only an old fart makes the inexperienced charges.
Clearly, only a bitter old fart would have a problem with nice young women.
Clearly, only a fag *beep* would find this condescending.
And clearly, only a bitter old size queen would think circumcision is necessary.
*beep* You. |
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Omkara

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Omkara wrote: |
But I would have no negative opinion of parents who chose not to, either. But, if they did have it done for religious reasons, I'd have a negative opinion.
No child should be born into a religion, but should have the right to choose it.
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I think you are being unfair. I'm cut. My mother is Jewish and my father is Christian (both are nominally religious and aren't seen in a house of worship other than Weddings and funerals). My parents argued whether I should be circumsized (my father isn't). Basically, it came down to them doing what they thought was best for me, I would NOT be able to be Jewish if I wasn't cut - and getting cut while being a baby far outweighed the cons of being cut at a later stage (either before my 13th birthday or in adulthood) while being cut would not hurt effect my ability to be Christian. Thus by doing that, they weren't forcing me into a religion, rather making it easier for me to pursue a religion if I so chose. I was also christened as a baby. (For the record, I'm not religious, was never confirmed nor had a Barmitzvah, but due to my circumcision and 'bris' certificate I'd be eligible for Israeli citizenship).
Finally, my Beep is plenty sensitive, if it was 50% more sensitive as other poster's suggest I'd definitly be a candidate for premature ejaculation as well having to carry a spare pair of underwear everytime I went down a bumpy road  |
Not being unfair. I think that there are good reasons to either cut or not cut; but if the reasoning is only based of religion, that is poor justification.
If one chooses a religion, then they can choose to cut.
Perhaps the reasons may have to do with in-group and out-group dynamics, and the benefits of having access to resource of a certain group. This is one more consideration.
Religious justification which is not amenable to reason is poor justification. |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I always had irritability issues with that thing, and it wasn't for lack of hygiene. But sex would often leave it irritated/reddened and I was progressively annoyed by this. |
Of course you could have just purchased the right type of ointment.
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| Also, frankly, it was TOO sensitive. |
I can't really fathom that one.
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| Bottom line? as mentioned no regrets, and given the AIDS data that has surfaced perhaps it's even saved me from catching the big HIV as data shows that non snipped guys are far more susceptible to catching the virus because of the large concentration of Langerhans cells on the foreskin. |
The weird thing about male genital mutilation is that the establishment seems determined to concoct bogus medical reasons for it. For example, back in the Victorian era the medical establishment advocated it to prevent chronic masturbation, which was "proven" to cause all manner of disorders from epilepsy to blindness. If this had been proposed at any other time people would have fallen about laughing, but the Victorians took this crap seriously. Then when cancer became a major issue in the twentieth century, genital mutilation was advocated because "studies had shown" a link between being un-mutilated and cancer of the *beep*. Now they're on to the AIDS bogosity. If you follow the history of it, it's fairly clear that the quack medical system is just playing on whatever panic is fashionable at a given moment. No doubt if in the future people come to believe in curses from evil forest elves, "studies will show" that genital mutilation wards off those. |
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sharkey

Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| clearly youre inexperienced and your dick is small. Moreover, you like girls who are bad in bed, thus inexperienced. Put the lid back on the tub of vasoline that resides on your desk and stop saying such condescending things |
Clearly, only a size queen would ponder an anonymous poster's dick size.
Clearly, only an old fart makes the inexperienced charges.
Clearly, only a bitter old fart would have a problem with nice young women.
Clearly, only a fag *beep* would find this condescending.
And clearly, only a bitter old size queen would think circumcision is necessary.
*beep* You.[/quote]
ok, im 22, not inexperienced, but i think you are because you dont like being with girls who know what theyre doing. This leads me to believe you have only a couple kills, maybe 2. You're insecure about your wang and your sexual abilities and you want girls who have only seen small penises becuse you are worried they will compare yours to others.
i have no problem with young women, im a stud.
circumcision isnt necessary, dont know where you got that from, it is however, cleaner.
about the pondering about posters dick size ? lol is that the best you got? you were probably nervous writing this because you know your dick is small and you hope to god you dont have to compare to a real mans
idk, thats just the vibe i read from you , probably %100 dead on |
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Always religion hey Omk! haha.
I think that it's ultimately up to the parents to decide. Religion shouldn't play much of a role in this I dont think. I mean if you think back to the times of Christ, the Gentiles were even accepted even though they weren't circumsized and it further explains that it no longer mattered if one is or not.
So from a religous standpoint this argument is dead.
(Glad I paid attention in catechism) |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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If I ever have children, my sons will be circumsized.
It's just more hygenic. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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If I ever have children, my sons will be circumsized.
It's just more hygenic. |
Why don't you just teach them about good personal hygiene and let them decide if they want to be circumcised or not. |
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