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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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me either, thats why im going to marry a rich guy, be a lazy housewife, and spend my time spending his money decorating our home, or out suntanning by the pool
Perfect Plan,...... i decide to sign one more year here, so i could map out a future life plan....and it only took a month! Now im ready for the future!!!!!!
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: wow |
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In 2000 I went back to the States after being out of the country for 15 years where I worked as a volunteer for a charity doing things not real relevant to the real world. I did non-profit accounting, but was not, in any way, educated for accounting. Anyway, I was in the Silicon Valley and in less than a week landed a fulltime accounting position at $25.00 an hour. I decided to go to graduate school so I lost that job and in less than a week found another accounting job at 20.00 an hour and they allowed me to change my schdeule every semester. There I got a raise and they paid for over $2000.00 in dental work as well as paying into a 401K. I stayed there 2 years and then came here. At that time I was 47.
By the way, I got the second position about a month before the crash and 40% of the Dot.com/IT workforce were laid off. i was working in a high teach company in Sunnyvale.
I suggest that you use this time to learn a new skill/trade. Get certified, or learn something marketble. I am 51 now and if i went back and was in the same situation, I would use the money I saved and take a year or two to learn something new and thus be more marketable.
I love Asia and I love teaching so I made my choice based on that. I loved graduate school, it was not really necessary, but it was a nice transition for me.
Anyway, dream! Seriously, what are your dreams? Get excited and go for it. Make a plan. Obviously it is not the best time to find reasonable employment, so go learn something that will movwe you closer to what you really want.
I would not do the intensive computer course unless you truly loved that type of work. I know a Canadian who did that course and got the free laptop etc. I can get him in contact with you if you want.
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder how many people over 45 are in Korea. It seems after age 40, one should stay where they are if they have a good livelihood. Forty seems to be the magical age when one won't be hired for anything new. |
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djbackdoor
Joined: 29 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Back home for 2 months and I cant get a job!!! |
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and its getting very depressing, Im 32 and have been teaching
in Japan and Korea for the last 5 years, have come back home
thinking that I have to get back to the "real world" whatever that
is and have found it impossible to find anything other than telesales
or collecting money for charities etc.
Im still very presentable, confident etc but realise that I have no
relevant skills... my stint teaching has not even been looked at
my employers... I feel Japan or Korea calling again but then I
feel that there will be no way of turning back.. anyone had
similiar experiences |
I'm sorry to read of your account and wish you all the best with your job hunting. From my experience of meeting English teachers in Korea, there's not a great deal that they are genuinely qualified to do outside of the ESL world. I commend your honesty and hope that more Westerners over here wake up and "smell the roses" in regards to how they're spending their lives in the land of the morning calm. Getting wasted cheaply and chasing Korean skirt is not the secret to success or long-term happiness. |
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Daechidong Waygookin

Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Back home for 2 months and I cant get a job!!! |
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| rush wrote: |
and its getting very depressing, Im 32 and have been teaching
in Japan and Korea for the last 5 years, have come back home
thinking that I have to get back to the "real world" whatever that
is and have found it impossible to find anything other than telesales
or collecting money for charities etc.
Im still very presentable, confident etc but realise that I have no
relevant skills... my stint teaching has not even been looked at
my employers... I feel Japan or Korea calling again but then I
feel that there will be no way of turning back.. anyone had
similiar experiences |
I'm sorry to read of your account and wish you all the best with your job hunting. From my experience of meeting English teachers in Korea, there's not a great deal that they are genuinely qualified to do outside of the ESL world. I commend your honesty and hope that more Westerners over here wake up and "smell the roses" in regards to how they're spending their lives in the land of the morning calm. Getting wasted cheaply and chasing Korean skirt is not the secret to success or long-term happiness. |
How about lying on the internet? Your imaginaery career as an exec isnt going to earn you much money. |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Back home for 2 months and I cant get a job!!! |
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I feel your pain *insert Bill Clinton-esque chin-curled-up expression*. I've been back since August 2004 and I'm doing two things that I swore I would never do again: work in a dead-end job and live with my parents. I'm in my early.... ok, mid-twenties (I'm 24).
I chose a career that involves a waiting game, law enforcement. I've applied to the RCMP and some municipal forces but there are so many hoops to jump through that you need to have something to do in the meantime while they leave you twisting in the wind. I'm volunteering with the RCMP and I like it, but it's taken every ounce of strength I have not to run back to Korea again.
Just choose something that you know has a future and hang in there. Restarting your life "back home" doesn't happen overnight.
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and its getting very depressing, Im 32 and have been teaching
in Japan and Korea for the last 5 years, have come back home
thinking that I have to get back to the "real world" whatever that
is and have found it impossible to find anything other than telesales
or collecting money for charities etc.
Im still very presentable, confident etc but realise that I have no
relevant skills... my stint teaching has not even been looked at
my employers... I feel Japan or Korea calling again but then I
feel that there will be no way of turning back.. anyone had
similiar experiences |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: Re: Back home for 2 months and I cant get a job!!! |
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| Eazy_E wrote: |
I feel your pain *insert Bill Clinton-esque chin-curled-up expression*. I've been back since August 2004 and I'm doing two things that I swore I would never do again: work in a dead-end job and live with my parents. I'm in my early.... ok, mid-twenties (I'm 24).
I chose a career that involves a waiting game, law enforcement. I've applied to the RCMP and some municipal forces but there are so many hoops to jump through that you need to have something to do in the meantime while they leave you twisting in the wind. I'm volunteering with the RCMP and I like it, but it's taken every ounce of strength I have not to run back to Korea again.
Just choose something that you know has a future and hang in there. Restarting your life "back home" doesn't happen overnight.
| rush wrote: |
and its getting very depressing, Im 32 and have been teaching
in Japan and Korea for the last 5 years, have come back home
thinking that I have to get back to the "real world" whatever that
is and have found it impossible to find anything other than telesales
or collecting money for charities etc.
Im still very presentable, confident etc but realise that I have no
relevant skills... my stint teaching has not even been looked at
my employers... I feel Japan or Korea calling again but then I
feel that there will be no way of turning back.. anyone had
similiar experiences |
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Dude, you have many more lives left at age 24. It's the people who are in their 30s that have more worry to do. And yeah, a lot of government positions require such a darn long waiting period. |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks dude. I appreciate the encouragement. Yaya, are you "back home" or settled in Korea now? |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm back in Korea after two mediocre years in Los Angeles. I could've stayed in the US but I probably would've moved to a better job market as SoCal is just job deficient (no reason to be there if you are not trying to break into Hollywood or real estate). But I kept thinking of Korea and well, I felt I wouldn't want to remain forever in the US even if I was making bank. So I just packed up and returned to Korea.
Dude, I first went to Korea at age 24 so you got a lot of chances left. Trust me. The trick is to just know what you want, keep at it, don't whine and complain and brave it out. |
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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject: ok |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| I wonder how many people over 45 are in Korea. It seems after age 40, one should stay where they are if they have a good livelihood. Forty seems to be the magical age when one won't be hired for anything new. |
You are probably right, but I have never been one to follow the common travelled road. Reality may dictate that I have to conform to some common sense rule, but I am a bit defiant.
From what I heard about my old position,I probably would not have been able to retain it much longer.
Since turning 40 I got a Bachelors from Eastern Oregon State, a Masters from San Jose State. I competed in and cxompleted 3 Trailwalkers in Hong Kong. I got my RESCUE PADI certification....it keeps getting better and bettter and I thank God I did not stay where I was at at 40, I would have missed so much!
If I am around till I am 70, I think I will do a through trek on the AT or PCT. |
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kalbi
Joined: 27 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:18 pm Post subject: Moving back |
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Moving Back or moving onward is made easier if you save up money in Korea before the move. You should have at least enough money to live in the new location without a job for 6-12 months.
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rush
Joined: 17 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Hey, I havent been on here for quite a while so was very surprised to see my old post up here again so thought it was time for an update.
After a lot of begging and pleading, my Uni allowed me to finish the last
quarter of my bachelors degree that I had foolishly dropped out of some
10 years ago, so I basically busted my ass and got As and Bs and was
accepted into a one year post graduate Diploma of Education course. This enables
me to teach at Primary schools in Australia and most other countries.
So this has given me some peace of mind in that "if" I do continue to teach
ESL which I love, at least I know now I have a "safety net" (so to
speak) when I come back.
Anyway thanks for all the replies and encouragement, wishing those in
similiar situations all the best |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| rush wrote: |
Hey, I havent been on here for quite a while so was very surprised to see my old post up here again so thought it was time for an update.
After a lot of begging and pleading, my Uni allowed me to finish the last
quarter of my bachelors degree that I had foolishly dropped out of some
10 years ago, so I basically busted my ass and got As and Bs and was
accepted into a one year post graduate Diploma of Education course. This enables
me to teach at Primary schools in Australia and most other countries.
So this has given me some peace of mind in that "if" I do continue to teach
ESL which I love, at least I know now I have a "safety net" (so to
speak) when I come back.
Anyway thanks for all the replies and encouragement, wishing those in
similiar situations all the best |
Ah, I guess you forgot to mention that little detail: YOU NEVER FINISHED YOUR BACHELOR'S. Duh, even if you mention that you were only ONE class short of finishing, the fact is that you DON'T have a BA, and that IS a blackmark against you.
Geez. |
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