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| Why is the Chinese Navy being confrontational? |
| They want to strut their (new) stuff, jingoistic style |
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22% |
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| They want to see if they will push Obama's buttons |
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27% |
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| They really believe the South China Sea is all theirs |
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33% |
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| They don't want to be outdone by the North Koreans |
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11% |
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| International waters is meaningless legal language to them |
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5% |
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| Hainan isn't Hawaii, so the tourists need some sights |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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 Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| The evil penguin wrote: |
| ManintheMiddle wrote: |
evil penguin:
Yes, you've lost you're bearings.
World powers spy on one another. They've been doing that for a century or more. Of course, the US is spying on the submarine bases on Hainan. You do know about them, right?
Surely you aren't suggesting that while Western nations abide by international treaties on water rights that the Chinese don't need to?
sharkey:
Sorry to disrupt your sensibilities. Actually, I'd prefer a B-52 strike on these ships. But seriously, I was saying this only in jest. Nonetheless, the more the Chinese push the envelope (the US has had surveillance ships in the area for 15 years without much incident), the more likely a mishap will occur. And you can bet the Chinese will be the first to cry foul even if they provoke it. That's the Asian way.
Last time this happened, the Chinese fighter pilot got to close to the American spy plane and we all know what happened next.
And if either of you think that the Chinese don't regularly spy on US installations, then I've got oceanfront property in Nevada to sell to you. |
If the tables were turned and the chinese or russian navies were continually hovering off the coast of USA, just inside the international water boundary with clear openly hostile intentions of spying and/or strategic military positioning, are you suggesting that the good ol' defending forces of america would simply cry "oh golly gee" and go back to whatever they do when not acting aggressively to other countries?
I don't support china's actions.. but then again i don't agree with the tendency of the US to impose throw it's military weight around in regions far removed from american national boundaries. The US crying foul over the incident is somethng akin to a schoolyard bully running home to his mummy after another kid threw a pencil at him. |
Penguin after reading your posts in this thread, first discussing nuclear weapons on surface ships (None on that US ship, and def not the Chinese one) to this I have come to the conclusion yo have aboslutely no fucking clue what your talking about.
First off, we HAVE had the scenario you describe happen. Usually involving submarines.
Secondly, oh yes big bad USA for deploying its navy to waters other then its own... JUST LIKE MOST NATIONS WITH A NAVY DO.
I've seen European ships in middle eastern waters and vice versa! oh no the humanity of it.. |
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zeldalee13
Joined: 08 Nov 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| They look like true believers according to this survey. |
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