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Best opening line (Literature)
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Craven Moorehead



Joined: 14 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gormenghast, that is, the main massing of the original stone, taken by itself would have displayed a certain ponderous architectural quality were it possible to have ignored the circumfusion of those mean dwellings that swarmed like an epidemic around its outer walls.

Titus Groan, Mervyn Peake
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I like the cadence of the opening line of Ulysses- it's the rest of the book I find impenetrable. I suspect if I could just manage to read it in one sitting, it'd be fantastic though.


You use the very word that I hear most often used to describe Ulysses; "impenetrable." I would also add inaccessible and to a degree, arcane. The whole experience of reading Ulysses was very similar to reading Rupert Graves' nebulous work "The White Goddess."
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know someone at Oxford who is getting her doctorate, focusing on Joyce scholarship. She recently said she felt "hungover and emotionally destroyed" after her Finnegans Wake reading group. That is f'ed up.

But to Special: I agree and do love Portrait. Joyce himself once said the entire book's issues can be summed up in that opening line.


I can certainly believe it! It is the product of a dream that Joyce never got a chance to properly edit. Given, however, the outcome of his preceding novel, I do not suspect that a judicious go-over with a pen would have served it any good. Eliot should have referred him a proper editor!

But I do not mean to belittle Joyce. I disagree with him, to a large degree, on his opinion of aesthetics, particularly the notion that art serves function. I would say that function serves art, and therefore the comprehension of his audience should be paramount.

But I digress. Yes, Finnegan's is an f***ing nightmare. Joyce called it a dream, I call it rubbish. That is my opinion. I love modernism, but I cannot stand much of modern art, and that alone should be sufficient to outline my inherent philosophical prejudice against Joyce's later works.

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. I have had those "emotionally destroyed" feelings in workshops. I cannot wholly sympathize with her, though, because I was the writer and the class was my reading group. But what doesn't kill us teaches us to get a plan B sufficiently more profitable than plan A to fill the stomach Shocked
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craven Moorehead wrote:
Gormenghast, that is, the main massing of the original stone, taken by itself would have displayed a certain ponderous architectural quality were it possible to have ignored the circumfusion of those mean dwellings that swarmed like an epidemic around its outer walls.

Titus Groan, Mervyn Peake


The thing about Peake is how the whole movement of the sentence and the sound completes the mental picture given by the words. That's probably what they call a fusion of style and content; there's some higher proetic principle at work.
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Deep Thirteen



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land

PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You are waking from a stupor that feels like a chronic headache after a week in Vegas."

Someone has got to recognize that line.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep Thirteen wrote:
"You are waking from a stupor that feels like a chronic headache after a week in Vegas."

Someone has got to recognize that line.


"Rolling up the sleeve, you find a tiny puncture on your arm."
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deep Thirteen wrote:


Someone has got to recognize that line.


You'd think .38 special would!!!
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Electron cloud

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Deep Thirteen wrote:


Someone has got to recognize that line.


You'd think .38 special would!!!


So enlighten us then.....
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Jane



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the most famous opening lines in Japanese literature:

The train came out of the long tunnel into the snow country.

Snow Country- Yasunari Kawabata
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
Deep Thirteen wrote:


Someone has got to recognize that line.


You'd think .38 special would!!!


So enlighten us then.....


From the old video game Deja Vu ...the character has a .38 special ~
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP



Joined: 28 May 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn. Just remembered all my best and most favourite books are in England in my parent's attic.

I have a free morning today so was planning to pick out a few of my best books and slam down some new dazzling opening lines that would entertain, enlighten, add a dash of Lime juice to this thread and of course show myself to be a most learned, mordant, aesthete of unarguable good taste.

Instead I found these few I have with me in Korea which are merely decent. I think we can extend from sentences to opening paragraphs if we like....

From Marquez's 'Memories of my Melancoly Whores.'

"The year I turned ninety, I wanted to give myself the gift of wild love with an adolescent virgin."

From Banana Yoshimoto's 'Kitchen.'

"The place I like best in this world is the kitchen. No matter where it is, no matter what kind, if it's a kitchen, if it's a place they make food, it's fine with me. Ideally it should be well broken in. Lots of tea towels, dry and immaculate. White tile catching the light (ting! ting!)"

Not great but I have a soft spot for the novella and it's a good introduction to the character's personality, situation and introspection at the begining of the story.

And from Italo Calvino's head spinning, deliciously original collection 'Cosmicomics'

"Right, that's how long it takes, not a day less, - Qfwfq said, - once as I went past, I drew a sign at a point in space, just so I could find it again two hundred million years later, when we went by the next time around. What sort of sign? It's hard to explain because if I say sign to you, you immediately think of a someting that can be distinguished from a something else, but nothing could be distinguished from anything there; you immiediately think of a sign made with some implement or with your hands, and then when you take the implement or your hands away, the sign remains, but in those days there were no implements or even hands, or teeth, or noses, all things that came along afterwards, a long time afterwards."
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matthewschmidt



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe not the best ever, but I've got the books with me here in Korea so I thought I'd contribute.

Catcher in the Rye:

"If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth."

Slaughterhouse Five:

"All this happened, more or less."

Old Man and the Sea:

"He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the gulf stream and he had gone eighty four days now without taking a fish."
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Deep Thirteen



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: Swamp Land

PostPosted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Deep Thirteen wrote:


Someone has got to recognize that line.


You'd think .38 special would!!!


Yeah, I was waiting for him to read that. Not literature, but it opens like a dime novel.


"Thunder crashes and lightning splits the sky above you with such force it seems the sky will shatter."

Secret of the Ninja - Choose Your Own Adventure #16
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joyfulgirl



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you've beat me to most of the ones that have stuck in my head.

i also remember these:

"Mrs. Dalloway said she would buy the flowers herself."

-Virgina Woolf


"They shoot the white girl first."

- Toni Morrison
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koveras wrote:
"Mother died today. Or maybe yesterday,"

I was just going to post that! Camus' The Outsider. Amazing voice.
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