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Culture influences EU perceptions toward Turks
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Reggie



Joined: 21 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at how many women in your town in the Ukraine leave in droves to places like Hamburg, Amsterdam, and Istanbul to work. Some of them will return to the Ukraine. Others will decide they'd rather stay in Germany, the Netherlands, or Turkey. That happens when there's migrant labor. It always has. It always will. Many of the Mexicans who have done construction and agricultural jobs are staying in America. A lot of Americans want them all to return to Mexico and some of them will. But some of them won't. That's just the way it is.

To live alongside the grandchildren of the people who rebuilt their country after the Germans turned it into an impoverished pile of rubble doesn't really seem like a big deal. The Germans really brought the problem on themselves. A lot of my distant relatives in the Hannover area would've been a good source of labor, but the Germans probably murdered most if not all of them. The imported labor from Turkey was a direct result of the enormous labor shortage caused by the Holocaust and WWII, and I hope the Turks stay in Germany forever as a living WWII/Holocaust memorial since the Turkish people in Germany are the replacements of the families of the men and women who died pointless deaths.
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rocket_scientist



Joined: 23 Nov 2009
Location: Prague

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Reggie, thank you for your honesty. I work against political correction because just doesn't sound right. After probing, you'll find ulterior motives.

I thought the Turks were supposed to stay in Germany for cultural enlightenment but it seems they have to stay there out of am unofficial punishment. That's a really really bad idea. Again.

Don't lean on the interpretation that Turks made modern Germany. They didn't. They were employed and worked well enough and would have had an excellent reference if they adhered to the contract. The Turks seem unable to reproduce the results back in Turkey alone and unaided. The Germans are fat headed and big mouthed but they deliver.

Yes, you right, we have plenty of Eastern women in the sex industry and its a shame in many aspects but you forgot to mention Israel, they are there too under very suspicious circumstances.

You can respond more if you like, I'm pretty much done with this thread. If you want to have the last word, you may.
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ytuque



Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NovaKart wrote:
During the time of the Ottoman Empire there was a huge number of Christians and Jews living in Turkey. I don't just mean within the Ottoman Empire, but within the modern borders of Turkey as well. Then, the Armenians were killed, the Greeks left and I believe around 98% of Turkey's population is Muslim. There's just a small number of Greeks and Armenians in Istanbul, some Assyrian Christians in the southeast and a few tiny pockets elsewhere. I think there's a very small number of Jews in Istanbul too.

On the national ID card in Turkey it lists religion. It doesn't list ethnicity so it's difficult to say how many Kurds there are, but it does list religion. Of course, people could likely tell by the name anyway. I have an Armenian friend in Istanbul whose sister tried to get a job at a store and they told her they didn't want to hire a Christian. At least it's not as bad as the days when there were riots against Greeks in Istanbul.

Actually this prejudice mostly has to do with ethnic problems, tension with Greeks and Armenians. I'm not aware of any political problems with the Assyrians but another poster said that this was due to a conspiracy against the Ak party.


The Greeks didn't just leave; They were ethnically cleansed!
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