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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:25 am Post subject: |
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There are Coast Guard there.
The islets don't support life. The more people they pack on there, the faster it will die.
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Why doesn't Korea just build a military base on Dokdo?
Apparently, people disapprove of handing out bracelets and information about the island. |
There already is one there. My friend's little brother is stationed there. |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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There's a lot of countries fighting over land disputes. Whilst places like Canada or UK don't hand out fliers and stuff, I don't think that the way Korea or Japan behaves about the situation overly weirder than other countries. I mean, whoever owns it, gets the resources and expand their boarders, don't they? The difference is that their more pasisonate about it with their citizens whilst other countries are more passionate about other stuff that drives people crazy.
I didn't hear about Dokdo at all when I was in Korea, and I only recently heard about it at my language exchange because we were looking at a tourist guide and it mentioned Dokdo.
Besides, they're far from being the only ones with territorial disputes.
http://www.bharathiyam.com/archives/25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Tundra Creature- if you didn't hear about Dokdo while in Korea, you're one of very few. My elementary school had a huge banner proclaiming Dokdo as Korean land and all of the students were given T-shirts that said "I heart Dokdo"- the only thing that might get Canadians of all ages as riled up is Olympic hockey, and that's still a pretty big might. |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
There are Coast Guard there.
The islets don't support life. The more people they pack on there, the faster it will die.
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This is great news, now my floating casino can be classified as some sort of sustainable/environmental project and get government subsidies.
I totally understand arguing over some rock in the ocean, what I don't understand is why some EU-style conglomerate isn't formed to establish drilling concerns and off-shore barely legal activity.
This is what bribes and schemes are for- to prevent war and to settle disputes.
To anyone who thinks this is silly- wait till you get a house and end up in some argument over what side of the property a dead tree is which has to be cut down at the owner's expense by municipal order. (This has happened to me before, thank you emerald ash borer). |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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and koreans are far from being the only ones being overly nationalistic about something. I just got sent this rubbish
http://www.passiton.co.nz/
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New Zealand is home to some of the world's most amazing people, products, places and ideas. We know it, but does the rest of the world know it?
We've scoured the country to bring you New Zealand's finest, from music, art and wine to science and technology. Whether we live in Kerikeri or Kensington, these stories are reminders of why we're proud to call New Zealand home. They also allow us to show off a bit. So have a look around. Be proud... and pass it on. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to think that a country's cultural, culinary, technological (etc etc etc etc!) merits, if indeed worthwhile, speak for themselves. There is often something inherently inferior about the product if you have to desperately go around touting how great it is (America does this a lot domestically with "made in the USA" autos and food). Good cheese comes from happy cows. Happy cows come from California.
K-pop, as much as I loathe it, gained ground around Asia because there was something intrinsic that people LIKED about it, not because there was an aggressive marketing campaign. People buy Korean exports like cars and electronics because of their relative quality compared to their price. Paying for full page ads in the NY Times telling people to go eat bibimbap just isn't going to work in my opinion.
Likewise, you CAN'T arouse sympathy in other nations about Dokdo. Koreans can go red in the face fighting Japan over it, and it looks like they've pretty much occupied it and it's theirs, but they will never, EVER get anyone to care about it. This isn't Israel/Palestine and this isn't the Balkans. People aren't dying over Dokdo..well..except for the occasional suicide.
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and koreans are far from being the only ones being overly nationalistic about something. I just got sent this rubbish
http://www.passiton.co.nz/
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New Zealand is home to some of the world's most amazing people, products, places and ideas. We know it, but does the rest of the world know it?
We've scoured the country to bring you New Zealand's finest, from music, art and wine to science and technology. Whether we live in Kerikeri or Kensington, these stories are reminders of why we're proud to call New Zealand home. They also allow us to show off a bit. So have a look around. Be proud... and pass it on. |
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THE CANDY COLOURED CLOWN
Joined: 09 Apr 2010 Location: In dreams I walk with you
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't Japan and Korea decide that they BOTH own Dokdoo and build a big house, as big as can fit on the island... It can be a place where Koreans and Japanese can go to have swinger parties and drinks and general merry making.. The house can be populated and ran and staffed by the Japanese-Korean offspring from the swinger parties and they will be geniuses who will hatch a cunning plan to populate korea and Japan with Korean-Japanese babies so that one day The Korea and The Japan will be one united nation spread over an island and a peninsular an hours flight away!
Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea...? |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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As silly and strange as the Dokdo stuff is, the Dokdo people aren't as crazy as some of the people in America where I'm from. Some Americans get their faces and legs blown off on behalf of the Stars & Stripes, Jesus, oil, and apple pie while fighting Iraqis for control of their land. Whenever I go to a football game in Neyland Stadium, before each game there's some priest or rabbi praying for our soldiers (they never pray for the suffering Iraqis) over the public adress system while over 100,000 football fans bow their heads and pray along with the guy. Then they play the national anthem.
It makes the Dokdo people in Korea look very well-adjusted in comparison. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, but people in the US don't take out front page ads in the newspapers of other countries desperately trying to sway public opinion(especially on something that is so irrelevant like the Takeshima issue). And not everyone in the US thinks the same way on any one issue like they do in Korea. Try to find even one Korean who will actually engage in debate over Takeshima. You can't find one because the sheeple are indoctrinated in a Goebbelsesque manner. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, but people in the US don't take out front page ads in the newspapers of other countries desperately trying to sway public opinion(especially on something that is so irrelevant like the Takeshima issue). And not everyone in the US thinks the same way on any one issue like they do in Korea. Try to find even one Korean who will actually engage in debate over Takeshima. You can't find one because the sheeple are indoctrinated in a Goebbelsesque manner. |
And of course it would be you who pulls out an analogy to the Hitler regime despite it being overused, unworkable, and completely over the top. |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Location: ples bilong me
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure if I was an American in NYC and some Asian looking guy started talking about an island I've never heard of which is part of a country I know nothing about apart from Seoul, '88 Olympic Games, Samsung, and Kia, I'd be thinking, who are these idiot people?? think I'll support Japan as these Koreans are so damn annoying!
Same as The Mormons and whoever else try to push their crap onto me, I'll just react in a negative way. |
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Banana_Man
Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| Yeah, but people in the US don't take out front page ads in the newspapers of other countries desperately trying to sway public opinion(especially on something that is so irrelevant like the Takeshima issue). And not everyone in the US thinks the same way on any one issue like they do in Korea. Try to find even one Korean who will actually engage in debate over Takeshima. You can't find one because the sheeple are indoctrinated in a Goebbelsesque manner. |
Really, you think every single Korean person is in agreement over this issue? If so, then grow up. |
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darkjedidave

Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Location: Shanghai/Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Here is what has been recently discovered....
"There is a serious concern for pollution in the seas surrounding Liancourt Rocks. The sewage water treatment system established on the islets has malfunctioned and sewage water produced by inhabitants of Liancourt Rocks such as South Korean Coast Guard and lighthouse staff is being dumped directly into the ocean. Significant water pollution has been observed; sea water has turned milky white, sea vegetations are progressively dying off, and calcification of coral reefs is spreading. The pollution is also causing loss of biodiversity in the surrounding seas. As of November 2004, 8 tons of malodorous sludge is dumped into the ocean every day" |
Link? |
Its from Wikipedia. I just added that Kim Jung Il has a secret cave on Dokdo, so that means its 100% accurate...please.... if you provide facts, quote a real source |
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curiousaboutkorea

Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:43 am Post subject: |
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So, if there's all these natural resources there like gas.... why don't they start drilling already?  |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Tundra Creature- if you didn't hear about Dokdo while in Korea, you're one of very few. My elementary school had a huge banner proclaiming Dokdo as Korean land and all of the students were given T-shirts that said "I heart Dokdo"- the only thing that might get Canadians of all ages as riled up is Olympic hockey, and that's still a pretty big might. |
To be honest, the first time I heard about Dokdo was on this site.
And sorry, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you for the hockey, just because I live in the province that is willing to get riled up and debate over anything no matter what side you take on whatever situation is there.
The Candy Coloured Clown- I agree; though I don't know how the baby making will work. You know how Japan are with the Zanichi and my assumption is the same with Korean-born Japanese, so it could take a long while. |
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