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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: |
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SeoulNate:
You do mean your opinion of worthless, right?
I think what Captain Corea is trying to say is that he finds worth in a tablet, and would probably still find worth in it even if he had a smartphone and laptop.
I would have to agree with him. I have a smartphone, laptop, and desktop. I am also thinking about getting an iPad. To be honest, there are days when I don't really need to take the laptop and the laptop can be heavy to carry around all day. It is great when I need to write emails or documents, but it is a pain to carry around.
I have a smartphone and it is easy to carry around, but it is a pain if I need to write a long email or document. The keyboard is too small. It's also not great for watching movies as the screen is a bit small.
With a long battery life, nearly full size keyboard, big screen for videos, etc. I see a lot of usefulness in something like an iPad.
But, this is my opinion of "useful". |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:09 am Post subject: |
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I fail to see where you guys are getting your usefulness from.
Time and time again you claim things like:
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| I have a smartphone and it is easy to carry around, but it is a pain if I need to write a long email or document |
Seriously? You are so far away from a computer for such a long time that you absolutely need a device to write a long email conveniently 24 hours a day?
I am not denying that these types of jobs are out there, I used to work one in the states, but I sure at hell didn't carry a tablet with me since it would have looked unprofessional if I walked into a business meeting typing and taking notes on my Ipad. I needed the full functionality of a laptop with its ability to run any type of program and interface with any and all devices in the office.
I have owned a smartphone for about 2.5 years now and never have I had a moment that you guys seem to think happens every day. Never have I though to myself "If only I had another device exactly like my smartphone, only larger, to carry around in my bag all day so I could type an email or word document half again as fast."
Again, seriously? |
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Chokse
Joined: 22 May 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:23 am Post subject: |
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I bang out several long emails or documents every day. When possible, I do it on my laptop, but it is extremely burdensome carrying it around with me all day, and it is inconvenient to use in many situations (on the bus or subway). I do have an iPhone, and it is great for those times when you're out and about, but when I do have to type out a long letter or email (or a post like this), the small keyboard is a real pain.
Let's also not forget travel. Taking a laptop when you travel is very inconvenient. On the plane, there is often little room for one, many hotel room safes are too small to fit a laptop, and if you are moving from place to place on your trip, it is a lot of extra size and weight to carry around.
Finally, I think someone should be able to buy whatever the hell they want to buy so long as it makes them happy and it's not illegal. You may not see any reason to get a tablet, but many people (and many schools) do, and they are buying them in large numbers.
Why are you always so bothered when other people buy something you wouldn't buy? The other posters have given you very valid reasons as to why they find a tablet useful. Why isn't this enough? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I work freelance and find myself in exactly the situations you postulate. I have a long commute as well.
SeoulNate, I notice how you've neglected to answer my question... Do you own, or have you ever owned a tablet?
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And there goes the pot calling the kettle black.
Sure, I assume the OP has a laptop just like you assumed he doesn't
I have now said 6 different times in this thread that if the OP doesnt have a laptop and smartphone, then it may be beneficial for him to get a tablet.
I just dont see how you will not / can not concede the opposite point: If you have a laptop and smartphone, a tablet is worthless. |
I don't assume anything about the OP. I don't mention laptops, because he/she doesn't mention laptops.
I have two desktops, three laptops, two iPads, and two iPhones in my house.
The laptops get used the least. |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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My two cents is that you have to think long and hard before buying a tablet to be sure that it will find a place in your, sorry for yucky soundbite, 'lifestyle'.
But really. What is your usual routine and how could a tablet fit into that?
Captain Corea has explained the situations where a tablet comes in handy for him each day. So fair enough.
For me, no. My commute involves driving my car so can't use a tablet there!!
At work I use the laptop given to me by my school which sits on my desk in my classroom, always on and ready to use.
At home, I have a room with a very good PC and 27'' screen for TV/movies/gaming.....combined with a great big leather office chair....so I'm happy with that.
In the living room my wife's laptop is always running somewhere around the sofa, or I can use my HTPC under the 47'' TV.
So I can't see where a tablet would fit in there.......but I can see how they would fit with other peoples lives. |
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carleverson
Joined: 04 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd use a tablet when taking a dump and for browsing the web / reading on my bed before going to sleep. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: |
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That's the thing, eamo, whenever someone tells me they're going to get a tablet, my usual first response is to ask them why. I know it has its own unique traits to it and that it won't fit with many lifestyles.
That being said, when someone comes on here and says that it's worthless and lacks functionality, I also know that that runs counter to my experience. That's why I find myself objecting so strongly to SeoulNate - NOT because he doesn't want a tablet, and not because he doesn't see a need for it for him... But rather because he says they have virtually no functionality.
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| carleverson wrote: |
| I'd use a tablet when taking a dump and for browsing the web / reading on my bed before going to sleep. |
this is why I would buy one.. plus to take over to mates houses and show friends pictures from my holidays... |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:20 am Post subject: |
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That's the thing, eamo, whenever someone tells me they're going to get a tablet, my usual first response is to ask them why. I know it has its own unique traits to it and that it won't fit with many lifestyles.
That being said, when someone comes on here and says that it's worthless and lacks functionality, I also know that that runs counter to my experience. That's why I find myself objecting so strongly to SeoulNate - NOT because he doesn't want a tablet, and not because he doesn't see a need for it for him... But rather because he says they have virtually no functionality.
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No, you find yourself objecting so strongly because someone is calling you out on your kool aid addiction. I really didnt want to bring apple into the discussion, since I have no real problem with their phones and tablets as their price point in these two areas is par for the course, but it seems like that is where you are getting this vehement denial.
I highly doubt that we would see such abject resentment for my statements if you owned some other sort of tablet.
Directed to anyone thinking about getting a tablet: Wait a year. IMO they are going to be the future of laptop / netbook computers, but wait until we get full OS compatibility and a proper range of connectivity and dont waste your money on an over sized smartphone. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
That's the thing, eamo, whenever someone tells me they're going to get a tablet, my usual first response is to ask them why. I know it has its own unique traits to it and that it won't fit with many lifestyles.
That being said, when someone comes on here and says that it's worthless and lacks functionality, I also know that that runs counter to my experience. That's why I find myself objecting so strongly to SeoulNate - NOT because he doesn't want a tablet, and not because he doesn't see a need for it for him... But rather because he says they have virtually no functionality.
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No, you find yourself objecting so strongly because someone is calling you out on your kool aid addiction. I really didnt want to bring apple into the discussion, since I have no real problem with their phones and tablets as their price point in these two areas is par for the course, but it seems like that is where you are getting this vehement denial.
I highly doubt that we would see such abject resentment for my statements if you owned some other sort of tablet.
Directed to anyone thinking about getting a tablet: Wait a year. IMO they are going to be the future of laptop / netbook computers, but wait until we get full OS compatibility and a proper range of connectivity and dont waste your money on an over sized smartphone. |
Wow
I dont understand how it is hard to believe that someone finds something useful that another person may not. It is really pretty simple.
Captain Corea has listed what he finds useful about his tablet.
SeoulNate do you think that he is lying? So by your logic you believe that his tablet sits in a closet collecting dust, never to be used (because in your own words, it has no use) but he's so enamored by it that he comes online to post multiple fake comments about how they really are fantastic?
Then you go off, and out of nowhere try to turn this into another pointless Apple thread.
Last time I checked , Apple wasnt the only company that made tablets.
I really dont know how Captain Corea can simplify it for you any further SeoulNate.
Captain Corea doesnt know if a tablet will be useful for everyone, but he finds it useful for himself.
He even listed how he uses his tablet, but apparently that's complete nonsense...he couldnt possibly know if his own needs are being met. |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| shostahoosier wrote: |
Captain Corea doesnt know if a tablet will be useful for everyone, but he finds it useful for himself.
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SeoulNate doesnt know if a tablet will be useful for everyone, but he finds it useless for himself.
We done?
Lay off it. He makes the same argument that I make, only the opposite side, and I get attacked by all of the pro tablet people.
Whatever, I have said my peace. I am finished with this thread.
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| Directed to anyone thinking about getting a tablet: Wait a year. IMO they are going to be the future of laptop / netbook computers, but wait until we get full OS compatibility and a proper range of connectivity and dont waste your money on an over sized smartphone. |
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spanky1off
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:08 am Post subject: |
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well finally after much deliberations i went and got myself a tablet today (2nd hand ipad). I had pretty low (what i thought realistic) expectations over what i was going to use it for. Basically just browsing whilst on the sofa to help with a bad back. Plus maybe some teaching uses.
Howver its already shown me why people seem to love them
Firstly the user experience is beautiful with fluid and intuitive navigation.
Secondly browsing, although not as speedy is really nice on some sites. Basically unknown to me some websites have tablet versions. Ive only seen Yahoo and New York Times and theyre awesome. Better than browsing on a pc. Set out nicely for swiping through screens. For me its the way the web experience is going to head eventually.
Thirdly I think you can probably do 90% of what u can do on pcs. watch avis/mkvs/browse/email/skype/document editing etc. Of course forget the real power user stuff but these were never meant for that.
Finally for the teaching element its showing some great possibilities. I have already got animated interacting childrens stories. Animated flashcards. Plus with Keynote i can (hopefully) see myself putting together nifty slideshows for my uni classes.
other things worth mentioning. battery life is great. 2nd hand prices 400k 16gb wifi (tether it to your phone for 3g) is just about the point where i think they offer good value. would i ever buy a brand new one? doubt it at todays prices.
as previously mentioned by another poster. its fantastic for when taking a dump. infact as luck would have it im doing one now.....PLOP! and can confirm its beautiful experience. i wonder if theres a toilet paper app?
any downsides? weightier than i thought it would be. don't bank on putting in an hour one handed hentai comic viewing session without coming away with 2 very sore wrists. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulNate wrote: |
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Captain Corea doesnt know if a tablet will be useful for everyone, but he finds it useful for himself.
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SeoulNate doesnt know if a tablet will be useful for everyone, but he finds it useless for himself.
We done?
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We would have been if that's what you had said out of the gate. Your bias is obvious, and the other posters here are seeing it.
I think shoosta said it well when he basically said you're calling me a liar. I've listed numerous ways I find my tablet useful and yet you continue to say it's not.
Why not say that it's not useful for you and leave it at that? Why the blanket condemnation? I've asked you many times here if you've actually owned one, and you seem to avoid that question like the plague. I'm guessing you never have and that you simply don't see the need for one in your life.
And I get that. I do.
But for you to basically say that you can't imagine anyone else using one...well, you've seen the objections.
And in the end... Look at the OP. You remember that post and poster, right? The one curious about tablets. Well, it looks like there's another post right above this one that went through the same process and is happy with their tablet. Good on 'em. |
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lalartu
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: |
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lol...funny what I've started with a simple question..
anyhoo, my wife and I decided that an Ipad (or any tab for that matter) was sort of a white elephant
we've played with an ipad for about an hour in an Apple store and really it was only a little more fun than my smartphone and was a lot slower than we hoped.
I was going to buy it for her because she was about to give birth and would have fun doing stuff in the hospital, but unfortunately she got bored with it at the store and I didn't really see any use in it either.
Since I'm not really a purse person ( i carry my stuff in my pockets ), we've decided that neither of us could really use a tab or enjoy it for that matter except for maybe an occasional minute on a couch at home. but that just wasn't enough to justify a hefty 640 000 tag on the device that will probably become outdated next year.
thanks for your opinions though:) as always, very appreciated |
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