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calendar
Joined: 22 Sep 2011
Location: being a hermit
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| Okay, even accepting your analogy (shaky though it may be), your point is still fairly empty |
I do not think it is empty, for it makes the correct point. You can't immediately call something wrong when you do not know the intent behind the act. A company doesn't hire a woman or a black man, is that racism and discrimination or is it that they were not qualified for the job?
Why should they have an immediate employment opportunity because of the color of their skin or their chest size is larger than a man's? As we all know, the do-gooding way when done improperly leads into reverse discrimination which is just as wrong as the acts that lead to tis conclusion.
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| By your logic I can't criticize Pakistani honor killings because that's just the way they do things in Pakistan. |
I think you are going to the extreme here to maintain your point and ignore mine. 'Honor killing' is just murder under another name. There is a higher standard concerning that act and 'honor' is no reason to violate that higher standad.
There is no alternative reasoning behind the act either. It is killing another person for a selfish reason. There you could replace 'honor killings' with alternative acts to satisfy their anger without having a process lead to another wrong act.
Do you see the difference? |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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No, don't see the difference... the difference between your reasoning and the kind of reasoning that led to the rise of fascism. Let's see: Don't wanna make an effort to let everyone have an equal opportunity to property (work) and makes silly slippery slope arguments like 'if we try to let people have an equal opportunity, it will lead to the inevitable rise of the most dreaded evil of them all!! Reverse discrimination!! Allows for such inequalities to exist on the basis race by saying people can do whatever they want in their own cultures and countries because its their culture and their country (rather circular argument, isnt it?).. . I'd have to say you took one right out of the Hitler/Franco/Mussolini play book. Kudos!
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| Okay, even accepting your analogy (shaky though it may be), your point is still fairly empty |
I do not think it is empty, for it makes the correct point. You can't immediately call something wrong when you do not know the intent behind the act. A company doesn't hire a woman or a black man, is that racism and discrimination or is it that they were not qualified for the job?
Why should they have an immediate employment opportunity because of the color of their skin or their chest size is larger than a man's? As we all know, the do-gooding way when done improperly leads into reverse discrimination which is just as wrong as the acts that lead to tis conclusion.
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| By your logic I can't criticize Pakistani honor killings because that's just the way they do things in Pakistan. |
I think you are going to the extreme here to maintain your point and ignore mine. 'Honor killing' is just murder under another name. There is a higher standard concerning that act and 'honor' is no reason to violate that higher standad.
There is no alternative reasoning behind the act either. It is killing another person for a selfish reason. There you could replace 'honor killings' with alternative acts to satisfy their anger without having a process lead to another wrong act.
Do you see the difference? |
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pest2
Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Like I said before, some kinds of discrimination are necessary... We can't have a 1 legged man on our all-star soccer team. Racial discrimination is never necessary, however. You might think cobras are dangerous. They are poisonous and they are green. Your reasoning would lead you to the conclusion to avoid all things that are green becaue they are dangerous.
And if you'll notice the topic of this thread, you will see it is, after all about race and discrimination.
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but we're talking about RACIAL discrimination. Not RELIGIOUS discrimination.
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So you are splitting hairs now. This is what I didn't want to get into as the analogy was an example only. Makes no difference if it is racial or religious, discrimination is discrimination.
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Furthermore, the people who own this website --while being publicly run-- are not required by law to let anyone say anything at all. It's their website. If they wanna run Nazi propaganda or any other kind of thing, it's their call.
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Doesn't matter if they are or not--IT WAS AN EXAMPLE!!!! get off it ph and there doesn't have to be a law to make an act discrimination.
Your whole post went off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the point being made but I have come to expect that from the posters here. |
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Skill
Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Like Thomp said: keep on trying.
Try for EPIK position. Your skin colour matters little to them.
If you are looking for a recruiter that does not ignore you as soon as they see your pic, then I will suggest Soon Chan from GMSC recruiting.
I heard other's complaining that they are not so organised or they flood you inbox but I personally did not experience that with them. |
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jeremysums
Joined: 08 Apr 2011
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: Racism/Discrimination |
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I wouldn't give up, look for recruiters to see if they can place you at a school. Its probably the best way to get a foot in the door.
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I know that many hagwons prefer Caucasian teachers & as an Asian American, I'm having trouble getting interviews/responses to my applications.
Any advice? Or should I just give up? |
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