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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Man, I haven't had spaghetti in so long.
My wife makes this awesome alfredo spicy sauce she watched Bobby somebody flayother on TV, I can't eat it - instant 100 pounds. But it is so good.
Last night I dreamed I was eating and eating and eating, and I was still hungry.  |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: |
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What I don't get is why it's considered so bad to be interested in eating healthily. It's bad to be fat and eat crap food, and now it's also bad to eat well? No, not all things are good in moderation. Cigarettes aren't good in moderation. Crack isn't good in moderation.
White rice? I can deal with a spoon or two for show when out with certain people, or when I have no other options and get a kimbap (hold the ham!) when I'm out, but I'm not interested in making it a regular part of my diet. Plenty of people live long and healthy lives on it. That's great for them.
I make a great Greek bean dish using large lima beans, tomatoes, onions, carrots, parsley, and olive oil that is a regular dish in my home. |
It's when people try to equate white rice to cigarettes and crack that I stop taking their opinions seriously.
However, to be clear, I have no issue with you eating what you like when you like. I wouldn't dream of convincing you otherwise. All I wanted to point out was that I totally disagree with the fundamental premise of eliminating an entire type of food from the diet and acting militant about it as a way of improving your life. For me, at least. |
But I didn't equate it with either. I said that I eat a spoonful or two to appease the masses, in order to be polite. I don't go on and on to them about how unhealthy I believe it is. I eat a little, then eat a real dinner when I get home.
I would never smoke a ciggie or suck the glass c**k. I'm just saying that not everything in moderation is okay, as someone previously stated. That's just false. It was a semantic point, though they weren't parallels. White rice certainly isn't remotely like crack. I eat white rice on occasion. I just prefer brown rice or barley, and avoid white rice whenever I can, which happens to be most of the time.
Reading comprehension. It's important. See the bolded, in case you didn't get the gist of this post. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
But I didn't equate it with either. I said that I eat a spoonful or two to appease the masses, in order to be polite. I don't go on and on to them about how unhealthy I believe it is. I eat a little, then eat a real dinner when I get home.
I would never smoke a ciggie or suck the glass c**k. I'm just saying that not everything in moderation is okay, as someone previously stated. That's just false. It was a semantic point, though they weren't parallels. White rice certainly isn't remotely like crack. I eat white rice on occasion. I just prefer brown rice or barley, and avoid white rice whenever I can, which happens to be most of the time.
Reading comprehension. It's important. See the bolded, in case you didn't get the gist of this post. |
It's got nothing to do with reading comprehension, and everything to do with what you are insinuating.
If the topic is types of rice, and someone states "Everything in moderation" it is clear from the context that we are talking about food. Bringing in crack (not food) and cigarettes (not food) into the argument is totally pointless. Unless you want to equate the effects of white rice (actual food) to those two things. Because that is the only valid connection, if you are going to use that comparison.
I mean, the topic being food, why not bring up a food that is not okay even in moderation? That would have made logical sense.
It's like you saying something like "I'm glad I renovated the kitchen. A little change keeps things interesting"
And then I jump in with "Well, a change to a state nuclear war wouldn't be interesting, would it?"
And then you'd rightfully ignore me, because I'm making no sense. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
But I didn't equate it with either. I said that I eat a spoonful or two to appease the masses, in order to be polite. I don't go on and on to them about how unhealthy I believe it is. I eat a little, then eat a real dinner when I get home.
I would never smoke a ciggie or suck the glass c**k. I'm just saying that not everything in moderation is okay, as someone previously stated. That's just false. It was a semantic point, though they weren't parallels. White rice certainly isn't remotely like crack. I eat white rice on occasion. I just prefer brown rice or barley, and avoid white rice whenever I can, which happens to be most of the time.
Reading comprehension. It's important. See the bolded, in case you didn't get the gist of this post. |
It's got nothing to do with reading comprehension, and everything to do with what you are insinuating.
If the topic is types of rice, and someone states "Everything in moderation" it is clear from the context that we are talking about food. Bringing in crack (not food) and cigarettes (not food) into the argument is totally pointless. Unless you want to equate the effects of white rice (actual food) to those two things. Because that is the only valid connection, if you are going to sue that comparison. |
McDonald's is considered food by many. Their products in moderation aren't good. I would never eat that garbage. How's that?
"Everything" means everything. I'm not insinuating anything. I'm using semantics. Enjoy your evening. Time for sleeps. |
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
But I didn't equate it with either. I said that I eat a spoonful or two to appease the masses, in order to be polite. I don't go on and on to them about how unhealthy I believe it is. I eat a little, then eat a real dinner when I get home.
I would never smoke a ciggie or suck the glass c**k. I'm just saying that not everything in moderation is okay, as someone previously stated. That's just false. It was a semantic point, though they weren't parallels. White rice certainly isn't remotely like crack. I eat white rice on occasion. I just prefer brown rice or barley, and avoid white rice whenever I can, which happens to be most of the time.
Reading comprehension. It's important. See the bolded, in case you didn't get the gist of this post. |
It's got nothing to do with reading comprehension, and everything to do with what you are insinuating.
If the topic is types of rice, and someone states "Everything in moderation" it is clear from the context that we are talking about food. Bringing in crack (not food) and cigarettes (not food) into the argument is totally pointless. Unless you want to equate the effects of white rice (actual food) to those two things. Because that is the only valid connection, if you are going to sue that comparison. |
Okay, fair enough. McDonald's is considered food by many. Their products in moderation aren't good. I would never eat that garbage. How's that? |
Well, I'd disagree, but at least your moving in the right direction.
I like how McDonalds has become the Nazis of food debate though. I don't eat white rice because McDonalds is crap is still a weak argument, but at least it is in the ball park.
Anyway, this is spiralling off-topic (mainly because I like arguing, it must be said), but I'd just like to state that I have no problem with your personal eating habits, where you choose to eat (or not to eat). This all started with me debating the validity of eliminating single types of food as a method to improve health and then miltantly pursuing that. In particular, white rice.
Oh, and the carrying your own rice to a restaurant (not you personally, of course). That's up there with my friend who ate her cheeseburgers by nibbling around the edges as she rotated it, so that she would have just the centre bit at the end with the pickle inside, and that would be her last bite. Weird. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| transmogrifier wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
| transmogrifier wrote: |
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
But I didn't equate it with either. I said that I eat a spoonful or two to appease the masses, in order to be polite. I don't go on and on to them about how unhealthy I believe it is. I eat a little, then eat a real dinner when I get home.
I would never smoke a ciggie or suck the glass c**k. I'm just saying that not everything in moderation is okay, as someone previously stated. That's just false. It was a semantic point, though they weren't parallels. White rice certainly isn't remotely like crack. I eat white rice on occasion. I just prefer brown rice or barley, and avoid white rice whenever I can, which happens to be most of the time.
Reading comprehension. It's important. See the bolded, in case you didn't get the gist of this post. |
It's got nothing to do with reading comprehension, and everything to do with what you are insinuating.
If the topic is types of rice, and someone states "Everything in moderation" it is clear from the context that we are talking about food. Bringing in crack (not food) and cigarettes (not food) into the argument is totally pointless. Unless you want to equate the effects of white rice (actual food) to those two things. Because that is the only valid connection, if you are going to sue that comparison. |
Okay, fair enough. McDonald's is considered food by many. Their products in moderation aren't good. I would never eat that garbage. How's that? |
Well, I'd disagree, but at least your moving in the right direction.
I like how McDonalds has become the Nazis of food debate though. I don't eat white rice because McDonalds is crap is still a weak argument, but at least it is in the ball park.
Anyway, this is spiralling off-topic (mainly because I like arguing, it must be said), but I'd just like to state that I have no problem with your personal eating habits, where you choose to eat (or not to eat). This all started with me debating the validity of eliminating single types of food as a method to improve health and then miltantly pursuing that. In particular, white rice.
Oh, and the carrying your own rice to a restaurant (not you personally, of course). That's up there with my friend who ate her cheeseburgers by nibbling around the edges as she rotated it, so that she would have just the centre bit at the end with the pickle inside, and that would be her last bite. Weird. |
Well, in all fairness, I wouldn't eat at Wendy's, In and Out Burger, Burger King, Arby's, Burger King, Applebee's, and a bunch of other places. It's just that McD's is the golden standard for crappy food.
As for being militant, I couldn't care less where (or what) other people eat (as long as it isn't my dog.) I don't have the type of boss who forces me to eat at places where there'd be nothing for me. She knows (and appreciates, as I often bring in food to share with her) the types of foods that I like, so we go out to places that are more accommodating (and I must say, delightful.) |
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IncognitoHFX2
Joined: 15 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
As for being militant, I couldn't care less where (or what) other people eat (as long as it isn't my dog.) I don't have the type of boss who forces me to eat at places where there'd be nothing for me. She knows (and appreciates, as I often bring in food to share with her) the types of foods that I like, so we go out to places that are more accommodating (and I must say, delightful.) |
I'm a little bit forceful with people about food. I've actually had a few bosses and co-workers in Korea (usually foreign) that try to push me into eating stuff I don't want.
I don't care what they eat but if I tell people I'm a vegetarian (which I try to hold off as long as possible), I get non-stop "for every animal you don't eat, I'LL EAT THREE!" Or "How do you get your protein?" Or "don't you miss meat?" They also usually force me/push me/trick me into eating meat.
Then if I say something as neutral as "people should eat less fast food and more whole grains" on the internet, all the Americans/Westerners start an uproar that sounds like: "You communist pig! How dare you suggest I eat differently? You are worse than Stalin!" etc...
People think people like are stuck up and snobby when it comes to food, but people like me have our reasons. Usually good ones based on our own experiences and those of friends.
It has turned me a little crotchety and gave me kind of a short fuse when it comes to people who are ignorant about food.
Maybe it's just because people on here are young enough not to have suffered any consequences of their eating. I bet if there were some people over 30 or 40 in this thread, we'd be having more agreement. When I was in my late teens and early 20s, I could eat anything at any time too. |
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NYC_Gal 2.0
Joined: 10 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, but you're not being forceful about what THEY should or shouldn't eat. That's the point. When I was at my former public school, the first principal was really cool, and knew that I had lapsed from being 100% vegetarian to a sometimes pescatarian, so would have school outings at seafood restaurants. He was awesome. The next guy always went to galbitang places. I was stuck eating bibimbap, and I would usually remove at last half of the white rice, before mixing it up, and then still only eating half of that. Did I tell the other teachers "what you're eating is unhealthy, and may contribute to possible future colon cancer"? Of course not.
Being forceful about not eating something and being forceful about telling others what to eat are two totally different things.
Back on track, though, most of my Korean friends (aged 30-40, and yes, some of us are 30+) know that whole grains are healthy, and add a mix of whole grains and beans to the rice that they eat at home, though they usually keep at least 20% of it as white rice. Koreans know that it's not that healthy by itself. To say otherwise is untrue. Many just prefer the taste, as many people prefer white bread to the harder, peasant-style bread that is its healthier counterpart. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| As for brown rice, how long does it take to boil? I know it should take a long time to make compared to white rice. Another unrelated question: Where does one find genuine whole wheat bread here? I know the brownish bread at the marts usually just have brown dye and aren't actually wholesome? Is there a brand or type of bread or type of place that one should look for? |
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IncognitoHFX2
Joined: 15 Mar 2012
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| As for brown rice, how long does it take to boil? I know it should take a long time to make compared to white rice. Another unrelated question: Where does one find genuine whole wheat bread here? I know the brownish bread at the marts usually just have brown dye and aren't actually wholesome? Is there a brand or type of bread or type of place that one should look for? |
Emart and LotteMart usually have one or two brands, if you look for them. It took me awhile but I can find it in many places now. Even Tous Les Jours (gasp!) stocks one loaf or so of whole wheat bread but they overcharge for it.
There is a delicious bakery in Kangnam that is a real bakery. They also offer vegan breads. The name is Bakersfield and I highly recommend it:
http://aliensdayout.com/2011/07/bakersfield-bakery-cafe-gangnam.html
| NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote: |
Back on track, though, most of my Korean friends (aged 30-40, and yes, some of us are 30+) know that whole grains are healthy, and add a mix of whole grains and beans to the rice that they eat at home, though they usually keep at least 20% of it as white rice. Koreans know that it's not that healthy by itself. To say otherwise is untrue. Many just prefer the taste, as many people prefer white bread to the harder, peasant-style bread that is its healthier counterpart. |
Yes, I've been noticing that with my students. Their doctors are forcing them into it. Good, I say! |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That's up there with my friend who ate her cheeseburgers by nibbling around the edges as she rotated it, so that she would have just the centre bit at the end with the pickle inside, and that would be her last bite. Weird. |
Why is that weird? Do you want your last bite of the burger to be a bunch of crust, some mustard that's run off and the burnt end of some beef? Why not the best part? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| That's up there with my friend who ate her cheeseburgers by nibbling around the edges as she rotated it, so that she would have just the centre bit at the end with the pickle inside, and that would be her last bite. Weird. |
Why is that weird? Do you want your last bite of the burger to be a bunch of crust, some mustard that's run off and the burnt end of some beef? Why not the best part? |
There's no wrong way to eat a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. |
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Modernist
Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Location: The 90s
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Why is that weird? Do you want your last bite of the burger to be a bunch of crust, some mustard that's run off and the burnt end of some beef? Why not the best part? |
Now, care to tell us how you polish off your footlong Subway BMT? And, of course, what about a nice spicy chicken soft taco from Taco Bell? I've got my techniques but I'm dying to hear yours  |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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| Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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as for beans and legumes, when was the last time you saw either on a Western menu in a white-tableclothed restaurant (that wasn't Indian or Pakistani)? |
Yesterday. |
Seriously. French and Italian both use beans pretty widely, and new American cuisine does as well. Again, where are you seeing this anti-bean bias bias. |
oh please. do name the places and the menus. and Italians use beans in one, maybe two soups, not exactly a main dish. french? I can't even think of any, so please do share. |
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