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Weigookin74
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Just to switch things up a bit, I think bluelake has some firsts under his belt. I did accidentally come across his Korean archery forum while looking it up online.  |
Thanks for the plug, Zyzyfer  I'm sure most foreigners in Korea have been the first to do something. For example, many were the first in their families to come to Korea. However, not the case for me--my dad was here in September 1945 (US Navy), as his ship was helping to repatriate the Japanese back to Japan.
Regarding Korean (traditional) archery, I was not the first foreigner in Korea to try it out (I have an archery magazine from 1962 with an article by a US Army officer who took it up while stationed in the country). Probably, my first in regards to KTA is I was the first to popularize it around the world. I did have a probable first related to my two passions of KTA and Korean history--I was the first to return a war prize to Korea; in this case, it was a Korean horn bow that was captured by the French in 1866. I returned it back in 2002 (to the Korean Army Museum). Five years later, I helped in the return (on long-term loan--hopefully, it will become permanent) of a Korean flag; there's probably a first in there somewhere
I do have the dubious distinction of having introduced pizza to bakeries in Gyeongju back in 1984... Long story. |
Do tell.... |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I do have the dubious distinction of having introduced pizza to bakeries in Gyeongju back in 1984... Long story. |
Do tell.... |
Back then, I taught in a Korean boys' high school. Before I first came to Korea, the principal and his wife visited the States, so I met them for the first time. We went to a pizza place and the principal's wife really liked it. She asked me if I could make pizza--I answered, "Sure" (I had made it before, so I knew how); however, I didn't realize I was letting a genie out of a bottle with that acknowledgement.
Some time after I arrived in Korea, the principal's wife asked me to show her how to make pizza. I told her the ingredients I would need (dough, tomato paste, seasoning, mozzarella, pepperoni, etc.). Of course, keep in mind it was Korea, 1984. What did she have waiting when I arrived at her house? Bread dough (o.k., that's fine), ketchup, no seasoning to speak of, processed cheese food slices and hot dogs (I have a picture of the infamous event). I nearly fell over backwards. Still, I made do with the junk I was supplied with--needless to say, it was a sweet, nasty piece of work when we were done.
Sometime after that, the lady owner of the largest bakery in the city asked me to teach her bakers how to make a pizza (she knew the principal's wife). I told her only on the condition that she got the correct ingredients. She did it (I think they were mostly, if not all, black market items from US bases in Daegu). I spent a Saturday afternoon teaching the bakers how to make pizzas. The following Monday, the now-ubiquitous mini-pizzas in plastic wrap you find in bakeries all over Korea were being sold at the bakery (whether other bakeries around the country had theirs prior to that, I don't know).
So, there you have it... |
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hang10
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Asia, Twice the sex half the foreplay
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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1. have sex with my co-teachers...... all three of them.....
2. Get drunk crash my stolen bike into on coming traffic and run away with blood streaming down my face......
3. Shout at my Hag-won owner and tell her im not coming in until she gives me a raise or a blow job.....
4. get drunk and run naked around my block in the snow.....
5. shall i continue........ nope.
6. Oh one more..... get drunk in the local entertainment complex pull my pants down and jump into the room where all the ladies hang out before going into the Nori Bang rooms..... that was one of the best nearly pissed my self with laughter!!!!! |
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soulofseoul
Joined: 23 Mar 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:52 am Post subject: Re: I was the first foreigner in Korea to.........- |
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[quote="Julius"]...discover the Rock bar in Bupyeong.
I have also been the first non-korean person to visit at least one rural village that I know of.
Any other pioneers here?[/quote]
Whoop dee doo! You were the first at a bar?? You want a medal or a chest to put it on first??? :roll: |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| bluelake wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| bluelake wrote: |
I do have the dubious distinction of having introduced pizza to bakeries in Gyeongju back in 1984... Long story. |
Do tell.... |
Back then, I taught in a Korean boys' high school. Before I first came to Korea, the principal and his wife visited the States, so I met them for the first time. We went to a pizza place and the principal's wife really liked it. She asked me if I could make pizza--I answered, "Sure" (I had made it before, so I knew how); however, I didn't realize I was letting a genie out of a bottle with that acknowledgement.
Some time after I arrived in Korea, the principal's wife asked me to show her how to make pizza. I told her the ingredients I would need (dough, tomato paste, seasoning, mozzarella, pepperoni, etc.). Of course, keep in mind it was Korea, 1984. What did she have waiting when I arrived at her house? Bread dough (o.k., that's fine), ketchup, no seasoning to speak of, processed cheese food slices and hot dogs (I have a picture of the infamous event). I nearly fell over backwards. Still, I made do with the junk I was supplied with... |
and did you make do with tinned corn too by any chance?
I'm glad you had the humility to say 'dubious' in your post!
Interesting stories. I have a strange feeling that if I had a time capsule and was asked which of bluelake's (admittedly impressive pioneering) endeavors I wanted to undo, it would be his contribution to Korean pizza, or lack thereof.
Sorry. Everything else sounds great though. I have a million questions like: Where and how did you happen to come across the bow?, How is it you seem to have been permitted to be a part of the retrieval process? etc. |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:34 am Post subject: |
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1. have sex with my co-teachers...... all three of them.....
2. Get drunk crash my stolen bike into on coming traffic and run away with blood streaming down my face......
3. Shout at my Hag-won owner and tell her im not coming in until she gives me a raise or a blow job.....
4. get drunk and run naked around my block in the snow.....
5. shall i continue........ nope.
6. Oh one more..... get drunk in the local entertainment complex pull my pants down and jump into the room where all the ladies hang out before going into the Nori Bang rooms..... that was one of the best nearly pissed my self with laughter!!!!! |
Hmmm...why oh why do I suspect you are an Australian female? |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| hang10 wrote: |
1. have sex with my co-teachers...... all three of them.....
2. Get drunk crash my stolen bike into on coming traffic and run away with blood streaming down my face......
3. Shout at my Hag-won owner and tell her im not coming in until she gives me a raise or a blow job.....
4. get drunk and run naked around my block in the snow.....
5. shall i continue........ nope.
6. Oh one more..... get drunk in the local entertainment complex pull my pants down and jump into the room where all the ladies hang out before going into the Nori Bang rooms..... that was one of the best nearly pissed my self with laughter!!!!! |
Hmmm...why oh why do I suspect you are an Australian female? |
So.. nero was the (Australian? sorry Ozzies!) guy that did that, and hang10 called him on it!  |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:34 am Post subject: |
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The following Monday, the now-ubiquitous mini-pizzas in plastic wrap you find in bakeries all over Korea were being sold at the bakery (whether other bakeries around the country had theirs prior to that, I don't know).
So, there you have it... |
Don't you feel like you deserve a cut of the profits somehow? |
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The Sultan of Seoul
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Location: right... behind.. YOU
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| I have also been the first non-korean person to visit at least one rural village that I know of. |
Where man? I was the second in Nami myeon. The old geezers under the pagodas loved swapping smokes with me! |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| bluelake wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| bluelake wrote: |
I do have the dubious distinction of having introduced pizza to bakeries in Gyeongju back in 1984... Long story. |
Do tell.... |
Back then, I taught in a Korean boys' high school. Before I first came to Korea, the principal and his wife visited the States, so I met them for the first time. We went to a pizza place and the principal's wife really liked it. She asked me if I could make pizza--I answered, "Sure" (I had made it before, so I knew how); however, I didn't realize I was letting a genie out of a bottle with that acknowledgement.
Some time after I arrived in Korea, the principal's wife asked me to show her how to make pizza. I told her the ingredients I would need (dough, tomato paste, seasoning, mozzarella, pepperoni, etc.). Of course, keep in mind it was Korea, 1984. What did she have waiting when I arrived at her house? Bread dough (o.k., that's fine), ketchup, no seasoning to speak of, processed cheese food slices and hot dogs (I have a picture of the infamous event). I nearly fell over backwards. Still, I made do with the junk I was supplied with... |
and did you make do with tinned corn too by any chance?
I'm glad you had the humility to say 'dubious' in your post!
Interesting stories. I have a strange feeling that if I had a time capsule and was asked which of bluelake's (admittedly impressive pioneering) endeavors I wanted to undo, it would be his contribution to Korean pizza, or lack thereof.
Sorry. Everything else sounds great though. I have a million questions like: Where and how did you happen to come across the bow?, How is it you seem to have been permitted to be a part of the retrieval process? etc. |
No corn, thankfully. Yeah, sweet and yucky stuff on a shingle was not one of my prouder moments...
Regarding the bow, I met a fellow from France who bought the bow out of a collection of antiques being sold and he brought it to the States to show it around at a large traditional archery festival, where I met him. It took a couple years of haggling, but we finally reached an agreement and I took possession of the bow in the summer of 2002; I brought it back to Korea and handed it over to the Korean Army Museum that fall. |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
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The following Monday, the now-ubiquitous mini-pizzas in plastic wrap you find in bakeries all over Korea were being sold at the bakery (whether other bakeries around the country had theirs prior to that, I don't know).
So, there you have it... |
Don't you feel like you deserve a cut of the profits somehow? |
Nah, that would be like accepting blood money... |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| bluelake wrote: |
| pegasus64128 wrote: |
| bluelake wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| bluelake wrote: |
I do have the dubious distinction of having introduced pizza to bakeries in Gyeongju back in 1984... Long story. |
Do tell.... |
Back then, I taught in a Korean boys' high school. Before I first came to Korea, the principal and his wife visited the States, so I met them for the first time. We went to a pizza place and the principal's wife really liked it. She asked me if I could make pizza--I answered, "Sure" (I had made it before, so I knew how); however, I didn't realize I was letting a genie out of a bottle with that acknowledgement.
Some time after I arrived in Korea, the principal's wife asked me to show her how to make pizza. I told her the ingredients I would need (dough, tomato paste, seasoning, mozzarella, pepperoni, etc.). Of course, keep in mind it was Korea, 1984. What did she have waiting when I arrived at her house? Bread dough (o.k., that's fine), ketchup, no seasoning to speak of, processed cheese food slices and hot dogs (I have a picture of the infamous event). I nearly fell over backwards. Still, I made do with the junk I was supplied with... |
and did you make do with tinned corn too by any chance?
I'm glad you had the humility to say 'dubious' in your post!
Interesting stories. I have a strange feeling that if I had a time capsule and was asked which of bluelake's (admittedly impressive pioneering) endeavors I wanted to undo, it would be his contribution to Korean pizza, or lack thereof.
Sorry. Everything else sounds great though. I have a million questions like: Where and how did you happen to come across the bow?, How is it you seem to have been permitted to be a part of the retrieval process? etc. |
No corn, thankfully. Yeah, sweet and yucky stuff on a shingle was not one of my prouder moments...
Regarding the bow, I met a fellow from France who bought the bow out of a collection of antiques being sold and he brought it to the States to show it around at a large traditional archery festival, where I met him. It took a couple years of haggling, but we finally reached an agreement and I took possession of the bow in the summer of 2002; I brought it back to Korea and handed it over to the Korean Army Museum that fall. |
Just one more question: Did you get money out of the museum or K-government for that? I would be pissed at you if you didn't take money for that?
Also, is it the only bow of it's kind from that era of Korean history in a Korean museum. If not, it may be better placed abroad. However, then it would be more popular to many Koreans as they would ask foreigners if they had been to X museum in the states because it has a Korean bow and everyone should flock there to see this amazing bow. So in a way it's great that you got it back to Korea in any case. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Just one more question: Did you get money out of the museum or K-government for that? I would be pissed at you if you didn't take money for that? |
Why? If a person is passionate about Korean archery (or anything, really), it sounds sensible to donate something of that nature to a museum. The museum also more than likely honored him in an appropriate manner (although that really shouldn't be expected from a donation). |
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pegasus64128
Joined: 20 Aug 2011
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Just one more question: Did you get money out of the museum or K-government for that? I would be pissed at you if you didn't take money for that? |
Why? If a person is passionate about Korean archery (or anything, really), it sounds sensible to donate something of that nature to a museum. The museum also more than likely honored him in an appropriate manner (although that really shouldn't be expected from a donation). |
A typical Korean would take the money, and they'd be damn right to do so. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Why? If a person is passionate about Korean archery (or anything, really), it sounds sensible to donate something of that nature to a museum. The museum also more than likely honored him in an appropriate manner (although that really shouldn't be expected from a donation). |
A typical Korean would take the money, and they'd be damn right to do so.[/quote]
Well that was out of left field, considering the topic and the current discussion at the moment. bluelake isn't Korean and the topic isn't directly about the habits of Koreans, so why say something like that? My last post figured you were just being tongue in cheek with the comment I made bold, not sure how this morphed into what a typical Korean would do in such a situation. |
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