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wishfullthinkng



Joined: 05 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdog2050 wrote:
Nismo wrote:
fezmond wrote:
do cans have some special quality that you pay extra for?


They're worse for the environment, and they don't insulate as well as bottles. Maybe it's an effort to get people to buy bottles?


Hey there,

My name is Jason and I'm a co-founder of the Magpie Brewing Company located in Seoul.

Sorry, but you're wrong-ish about canned beer. As with most things "it depends":

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_green_lantern/2008/03/wear_green_drink_greenly.html

Essentially the aluminum in cans is only environmentally "bad" if it's freshly mined aluminum, but that isn't the case much these days. A lot of aluminum is recycled, and furthermore much more of it is recyclable than glass.

Then there's weight. Aluminum makes up for it's environmental impact just from the fact that it's very light.

But again, it really depends on a brewery that has taken the time and interest to factor in these things.

In all, cans are quite amazing for beer. They DO NOT impart a taste, and they totally block light and oxygen (the enemy of good beer).

If I have any qualms about cans, it's that the epoxy lining on the inside (which prevents the aluminum and liquid from interacting) does contain a compound called BPA is an endocrin blocker. The amount of this stuff in beer-can lining is extremely low, but still, it's there and it's a concern.


jason is right. aluminium is one of the easiest elements to infinitely recycle out there not to mention its other incredible properties. they put the lining in it because there was a public outcry when it was found that there could be a correlation between alzheimers and aluminum consumption. however bpa which is also found in plastics isn't a better option.

also, the day i find a good stout in korea will be like being reborn for me. korea simply doesn't have any. zip. zero. zilch. and i miss it so much.
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singerdude



Joined: 18 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a special on cable channel A on imported beers. I was surprised to learn that some imported beers are not made in the original countries. They showed some labels and IIRC, Hoegaarden is actually made in Gwangju, and Asahi is made in China. I'm going to check the labels next time I go to HomePlus to see which ones are made somewhere else.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

singerdude wrote:
I saw a special on cable channel A on imported beers. I was surprised to learn that some imported beers are not made in the original countries. They showed some labels and IIRC, Hoegaarden is actually made in Gwangju, and Asahi is made in China. I'm going to check the labels next time I go to HomePlus to see which ones are made somewhere else.


Yeah, basically anything that doesn't have an import sticker on it is...well...not imported. And to make matters worse, when it's something that InBev is exporting there's a high chance that even if it does have the sticker, it comes from an InBev plant in China.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ You have to learn some hanguel so you can read the source. I have seen imported Carlsberg, made in China. But lately it's all been Denmark.

Love Lowenbrau, often at Homeplus.

Budwieser is all made in Korea.
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Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed a lot more bars stocking 7brau lagers and a chosen few who stock Craftworks lagers. Having the option of an IPA, be it 7brau or Craftworks, is a previously unbelievable dream scenario for me. There are bars outside Seoul who stock them too so have a look around your local bars. If they don't stock them then have a word with the owner.
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xhaktmtjdnf



Joined: 20 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

singerdude wrote:
I saw a special on cable channel A on imported beers. I was surprised to learn that some imported beers are not made in the original countries. They showed some labels and IIRC, Hoegaarden is actually made in Gwangju, and Asahi is made in China. I'm going to check the labels next time I go to HomePlus to see which ones are made somewhere else.


Asahi in the cans comes from Japan, but your right the bottles are from China. If people want to check the label just look for wonsanji on the sticker next to that will be the country name.
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v88



Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Location: here

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A can question:

I like cans, for those reasons already stated. However, some beer in cans can have a metallic taste. I've been drinking Belgian beer imported by Shinsegae (likely brewed here, but I haven't checked yet). Mainly Hackenberg and Marten's. I generally like them better than Korean beers and they cost the same or less. But sometimes they taste metallic. Bugs me and keeps from buying them often.

When I get Smithwicks or Asahi, I never get that taste. What's the deal? Is it the cheap can, the beer or the lack of a liner?

Loving Smithwicks right now. 2,500 for a 440 ml can at E-mart.
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

v88 wrote:
A can question:

I like cans, for those reasons already stated. However, some beer in cans can have a metallic taste. I've been drinking Belgian beer imported by Shinsegae (likely brewed here, but I haven't checked yet). Mainly Hackenberg and Marten's. I generally like them better than Korean beers and they cost the same or less. But sometimes they taste metallic. Bugs me and keeps from buying them often.

When I get Smithwicks or Asahi, I never get that taste. What's the deal? Is it the cheap can, the beer or the lack of a liner?

Loving Smithwicks right now. 2,500 for a 440 ml can at E-mart.


Again, think about it this way--when you drink beer from draft, the beer is stored in a keg which is...a giant metal can! Not only that, but inside of a beer keg, the beer is making *direct contact* with the stainless steel. Do you ever get a "metallic" taste? Nope. Inside of a beer can there is a sprayed on lining that has zero taste.

The problem is that you're just not buying very good beer. Case-in-point--

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/hackenberg-premium-export/27251/

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/martens-premium-pils/58567/

VS.

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/oskar-blues-dales-pale-ale/11576/
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