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Nismo



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

transmogrifier wrote:
I'm libertarian, I guess, in that I don't think the cabbie should be punished at all. Sure, the passengers can (and should) complain to whoever will listen and publicize the poor attitude of the driver in order to embarrass him, or whatever, but I'm personally of the belief that individuals and business should be able to choose freely who they interact with, no matter how foul the reasons.

As long as we the consumer are free to boycott racist businesses and publicise other blatant cases of unfairness, then the law shouldn't be part of it, I think.

There was a case a while back in NZ where an Indian man (I think, I can't remember) was refused entrance to a privately run club because he refused to remove his turban, and the club had a no-hat policy. Some people were up in arms at the "religious intolerance" of the club, but I think it was absolutely fair enough. It's their club, their rules. He could have entered if he took off his headwear, after all.


The hypothetical question is, "Where do you draw the line?" What if this free-discrimination (as in the sense of "discernment") was systematic?

The other obvious point I would like to make is, regardless of your position on subsidizing the fuel that allows cabbies to operate in the first place, you cannot deny that their business depends entirely on publicly funded roads (not private property). You need a social system already in place for it to even be operationally possible. Actually, almost any business requires public access for it to be possible. If all land were private, you'd basically be stuck on your own square. Specifically in this case, cab drivers are able to exist because we have a national road infrastructure in place, and that is why licenses for operation are required. I wouldn't mind if taxi fares went up, actually, if that also meant that the government would step in and regulate them more for things like safety standards. Korean taxis are frightening for many different reasons - not only when you're a passenger.
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yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The line between libertarian and anarchist is sometime blurred.
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motiontodismiss



Joined: 18 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

slothrop wrote:
motiontodismiss wrote:
slothrop wrote:


true; no one wants to take overly drunk people in their taxi; better to have them driving themselves.LOL



I personally think overly drunk people should be jailed until they wake up from their alcohol-induced coma (and be forced to pay for those accommodations), so I have NO sympathy for overly drunk people. They can sleep on a park bench for all I care. Drunk driving should be punished by real, kick-you-in-the-ass prison time. And I don't mean a glass or two of wine with dinner. I'm talking about can't walk straight, pee on the street or slur your speech drunk.


there aren't enough jails in korea for that.LOL imprisoning koreans for being too drunk would be like imprisoning americans for using drugs. oh wait. they do that. maybe the lagging korean construction industry can start building prison complexes instead of apt. complexes and the chaebols can start profiting via the taxpayer from incarcerating people. just like in america. Very Happy


It wouldn't be at the taxpayer's expense since these jails would be paid for by fines that cover the cost. Theoretically. Very Happy

In the part of California where I used to live they just jail you for the night and send you home in the morning for a drunk in public btw.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is interesting to point out that Korea is trying to make itself tourist friendly. Those "smelly" foreigners from the middle east just might be wealthy tourists. If word gets back to their home country about their treatment by a taxi driver then that could create problems with some big people with big money.
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orosee



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dairyairy wrote:
It is interesting to point out that Korea is trying to make itself tourist friendly. Those "smelly" foreigners from the middle east just might be wealthy tourists. If word gets back to their home country about their treatment by a taxi driver then that could create problems with some big people with big money.


Only if they were Saudi AFL (Arab as a Foreign Language) teachers, otherwise they'd just chalk it up to "that's life" and move on.
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thunderbird



Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he doesnt have to give a ride 2 a dog does he
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thunderbird wrote:
he doesnt have to give a ride 2 a dog does he


If the dog's in a carrier, he does.
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