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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
The first time i met my wife's parents was the first time i visited Korea on a tourist visa in 2004. I couldn't speak hardly any Korean, i could hardly use chopsticks and i was living in a goshiwan. Her parents are divorced so i met her mother and step father (with whom she has a surprisingly good relationship). We went to a big restaurant and had galbi. I thought it was going alright when suddenly my then girlfriend began crying. Apparently her step dad was ragging on me quite seriously. It was probably one of the most awkward moments of my life. We met them a few more times at family events. Fast forward a few years and we all had to attend a family wedding. I hate being left alone at these kinda things whilst my wife mingles, i saw her step dad (also standing alone) and started trying to talk to him. He seemed very pleased to see me. I guess as a non blood relation hes kinda on the outside too. Something changed in our relationship that day and its been pretty good ever since. Her mum has always been cool to me.

Right then and there, that would have been it with me. I would have refused to see him again after that. Maybe after a couple years or so I'd see him again and try to reconcile, but if he apologized I would see him earlier. I would have said that he HAD to apologize or the relationship would never continue. That stuff wouldn't fly with me. I'm surprised you took it. He basically emasculated you and you just sat there and wanted to be his friend after that? I would have avoided all family gathering if he was present in protest until he said sorry.


For an awful lot of Koreans, meeting the foreign boyfriend is the first real interaction they've ever had with foreigners. I think it makes sense to offer a second chance, even for the most righteous assholes. I definitely get where you're coming from, but I think demanding that an adjossi lose face is a battle that you will lose every time.


Agreed and demanding that an adjoshi who is your gf's father lose face is not gonna happen nor is it a desirable outcome for your gf or for any hope of a positive relationship with her family.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
northway wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
The first time i met my wife's parents was the first time i visited Korea on a tourist visa in 2004. I couldn't speak hardly any Korean, i could hardly use chopsticks and i was living in a goshiwan. Her parents are divorced so i met her mother and step father (with whom she has a surprisingly good relationship). We went to a big restaurant and had galbi. I thought it was going alright when suddenly my then girlfriend began crying. Apparently her step dad was ragging on me quite seriously. It was probably one of the most awkward moments of my life. We met them a few more times at family events. Fast forward a few years and we all had to attend a family wedding. I hate being left alone at these kinda things whilst my wife mingles, i saw her step dad (also standing alone) and started trying to talk to him. He seemed very pleased to see me. I guess as a non blood relation hes kinda on the outside too. Something changed in our relationship that day and its been pretty good ever since. Her mum has always been cool to me.

Right then and there, that would have been it with me. I would have refused to see him again after that. Maybe after a couple years or so I'd see him again and try to reconcile, but if he apologized I would see him earlier. I would have said that he HAD to apologize or the relationship would never continue. That stuff wouldn't fly with me. I'm surprised you took it. He basically emasculated you and you just sat there and wanted to be his friend after that? I would have avoided all family gathering if he was present in protest until he said sorry.


For an awful lot of Koreans, meeting the foreign boyfriend is the first real interaction they've ever had with foreigners. I think it makes sense to offer a second chance, even for the most righteous assholes. I definitely get where you're coming from, but I think demanding that an adjossi lose face is a battle that you will lose every time.


Agreed and demanding that an adjoshi who is your gf's father lose face is not gonna happen nor is it a desirable outcome for your gf or for any hope of a positive relationship with her family.



Making me and the GF lose face is not a desirable outcome either. I'd have told him that kind of behavior is not acceptable and I don't appreciate it.

There's not much hope of a positive relationship if someone is ragging on me regardless. There's a time and place to pick your battles and that is one. I'm a peace-loving guy but you make my GF/S.O./wife cry and I don't care if you are LMB or Obama...you and I are going to have words at a bare minimum.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the time i was 21, had been in the country 2 weeks and didn't have a clue what was going on. Just taking it seemed like the right thing to do. Now I'm 28 and knowing what i know, if it happened again i would certainly handle the situation differently. But like another poster said, everyone deserves a second chance and in my case everything turned out fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the norm. You meet the parents for the first time to ask their permission to marry her. It is basically an interview, and they judge you purely on that meeting. After sitting on the floor at a table at their house for an excruciating painfully long time, they will (or will not) give their blessing. After that, you can go home. Smile

Propose to her, and you will meet them. Smile Be prepared that after their blessing, you can expect a wedding within the next 3-6 months. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just recently went up to Seoul to meet my future inlaws and I stayed with them for two weeks during my summer vacation. My fiance had to work, though, so I was along with her mom a lot. Neither of her parents speak English, and my Korean isn't that good haha. Few random statements, but that's about it. It was the first time her mom had ever talked to a foreigner before, and she was scared/hesitant. After I started hiking with her in the mornings we talked more and more each day. Two weeks later and I really feel like I am part of her family now. Her father accepted me from the get-go and REALLY respected me from the beginning. He tried his hardest to try and make me feel as comfortable as possible in their home. I was super nervous before going, but I feel much closer to them now than I probably ever would have gotten.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
northway wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
The first time i met my wife's parents was the first time i visited Korea on a tourist visa in 2004. I couldn't speak hardly any Korean, i could hardly use chopsticks and i was living in a goshiwan. Her parents are divorced so i met her mother and step father (with whom she has a surprisingly good relationship). We went to a big restaurant and had galbi. I thought it was going alright when suddenly my then girlfriend began crying. Apparently her step dad was ragging on me quite seriously. It was probably one of the most awkward moments of my life. We met them a few more times at family events. Fast forward a few years and we all had to attend a family wedding. I hate being left alone at these kinda things whilst my wife mingles, i saw her step dad (also standing alone) and started trying to talk to him. He seemed very pleased to see me. I guess as a non blood relation hes kinda on the outside too. Something changed in our relationship that day and its been pretty good ever since. Her mum has always been cool to me.

Right then and there, that would have been it with me. I would have refused to see him again after that. Maybe after a couple years or so I'd see him again and try to reconcile, but if he apologized I would see him earlier. I would have said that he HAD to apologize or the relationship would never continue. That stuff wouldn't fly with me. I'm surprised you took it. He basically emasculated you and you just sat there and wanted to be his friend after that? I would have avoided all family gathering if he was present in protest until he said sorry.


For an awful lot of Koreans, meeting the foreign boyfriend is the first real interaction they've ever had with foreigners. I think it makes sense to offer a second chance, even for the most righteous assholes. I definitely get where you're coming from, but I think demanding that an adjossi lose face is a battle that you will lose every time.


Agreed and demanding that an adjoshi who is your gf's father lose face is not gonna happen nor is it a desirable outcome for your gf or for any hope of a positive relationship with her family.



Making me and the GF lose face is not a desirable outcome either. I'd have told him that kind of behavior is not acceptable and I don't appreciate it.

There's not much hope of a positive relationship if someone is ragging on me regardless. There's a time and place to pick your battles and that is one. I'm a peace-loving guy but you make my GF/S.O./wife cry and I don't care if you are LMB or Obama...you and I are going to have words at a bare minimum.

LIKE.
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
PatrickGHBusan wrote:
northway wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:
Jonephant wrote:
The first time i met my wife's parents was the first time i visited Korea on a tourist visa in 2004. I couldn't speak hardly any Korean, i could hardly use chopsticks and i was living in a goshiwan. Her parents are divorced so i met her mother and step father (with whom she has a surprisingly good relationship). We went to a big restaurant and had galbi. I thought it was going alright when suddenly my then girlfriend began crying. Apparently her step dad was ragging on me quite seriously. It was probably one of the most awkward moments of my life. We met them a few more times at family events. Fast forward a few years and we all had to attend a family wedding. I hate being left alone at these kinda things whilst my wife mingles, i saw her step dad (also standing alone) and started trying to talk to him. He seemed very pleased to see me. I guess as a non blood relation hes kinda on the outside too. Something changed in our relationship that day and its been pretty good ever since. Her mum has always been cool to me.

Right then and there, that would have been it with me. I would have refused to see him again after that. Maybe after a couple years or so I'd see him again and try to reconcile, but if he apologized I would see him earlier. I would have said that he HAD to apologize or the relationship would never continue. That stuff wouldn't fly with me. I'm surprised you took it. He basically emasculated you and you just sat there and wanted to be his friend after that? I would have avoided all family gathering if he was present in protest until he said sorry.


For an awful lot of Koreans, meeting the foreign boyfriend is the first real interaction they've ever had with foreigners. I think it makes sense to offer a second chance, even for the most righteous assholes. I definitely get where you're coming from, but I think demanding that an adjossi lose face is a battle that you will lose every time.


Agreed and demanding that an adjoshi who is your gf's father lose face is not gonna happen nor is it a desirable outcome for your gf or for any hope of a positive relationship with her family.



Making me and the GF lose face is not a desirable outcome either. I'd have told him that kind of behavior is not acceptable and I don't appreciate it.

There's not much hope of a positive relationship if someone is ragging on me regardless. There's a time and place to pick your battles and that is one. I'm a peace-loving guy but you make my GF/S.O./wife cry and I don't care if you are LMB or Obama...you and I are going to have words at a bare minimum.


Good point Urban.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After dating for a year I met the wife's mother. She was very nice. Couldn't get over the fact that I looked so much like James Bond (I look nothing like James Bond). Both women decided it would not be a good idea to tell dad about me... yet.

At about 24 months of dating dad learns of his daughter dating a foreigner. Doesn't meet me, but goes on a 3 month soju bender and my gf decides to leave his home to live with me.

At about 30 months of dating I impregnate my wife. (thought it would be the best way to further piss off my gf's *beep* of a dad ... kidding).

At about 30 months and 1 day I ask my gf to marry me. Mother and gf go into a panic about how they're going to break the news to dad. A few weeks later we have the meeting with the father. I show up in a suit, smile, bring a bottle of whiskey, say all the right things. It actually felt like a job interview. "Where did you go to school?" "What did you study?" "What are you going to do with your like?" "What was your mother's/father's job?". Very practical in a way - making sure I could support their daughter and that I came from a good family. Once that was over with and he saw I wasn't a freak, things loosened up and within 10 minutes everyone was laughing, drinking, and having a good time.

We stayed in Korea for another 3 years after this point and everything went well. As other have stated, the mother was always feeding me and concerned about my well being. Very motherly. The father and I got on well because we're both meat and soju kinda guys. Although he would always tease me for being a woman when I would do things like cook, set up our bed, wash the laundry. In turn, I would be a jerk and teach him the difficulties of using a vacuum cleaner and how one can use a sponge, soap and water to clean dishes rather than making a massive pile for one's wife to tend to.

We've been in Toronto now for 4 years and we takes turns with us visiting there once a year, and the parents visiting hear the next year. Everyone gets on well. They drop lines about us moving back to Korea, and we drop lines about them finding a condo in one of Toronto's massive Korean neighbourhoods.

Did it annoy me when I first heard of dad's reaction to me? Yes. But looking at it now I can't blame him. My wife is an only child and I think the thought of most Korean parents to a daughter-white guy relationship would be, "Crap, they're going to move to his country."
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PatrickGHBusan



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Newbie"]After dating for a year I met the wife's mother. She was very nice. Couldn't get over the fact that I looked so much like James Bond (I look nothing like James Bond). Both women decided it would not be a good idea to tell dad about me... yet.

At about 24 months of dating dad learns of his daughter dating a foreigner. Doesn't meet me, but goes on a 3 month soju bender and my gf decides to leave his home to live with me.

At about 30 months of dating I impregnate my wife. (thought it would be the best way to further piss off my gf's *beep* of a dad ... kidding).

At about 30 months and 1 day I ask my gf to marry me. Mother and gf go into a panic about how they're going to break the news to dad. A few weeks later we have the meeting with the father. I show up in a suit, smile, bring a bottle of whiskey, say all the right things. It actually felt like a job interview. "Where did you go to school?" "What did you study?" "What are you going to do with your like?" "What was your mother's/father's job?". Very practical in a way - making sure I could support their daughter and that I came from a good family. Once that was over with and he saw I wasn't a freak, things loosened up and within 10 minutes everyone was laughing, drinking, and having a good time.

We stayed in Korea for another 3 years after this point and everything went well. As other have stated, the mother was always feeding me and concerned about my well being. Very motherly. The father and I got on well because we're both meat and soju kinda guys. Although he would always tease me for being a woman when I would do things like cook, set up our bed, wash the laundry. In turn, I would be a jerk and teach him the difficulties of using a vacuum cleaner and how one can use a sponge, soap and water to clean dishes rather than making a massive pile for one's wife to tend to.

We've been in Toronto now for 4 years and we takes turns with us visiting there once a year, and the parents visiting hear the next year. Everyone gets on well. They drop lines about us moving back to Korea, and we drop lines about them finding a condo in one of Toronto's massive Korean neighbourhoods.

Did it annoy me when I first heard of dad's reaction to me? Yes. But looking at it now I can't blame him. My wife is an only child and I think the thought of most Korean parents to a daughter-white guy relationship would be, "Crap, they're going to move to his country."[/quote]

Great post.

On the bolded part, my FIL and I got drunk together a a couple if years after I married his daughter. Towards the end of the evening, he told me the hardest part about his daughter dating and marrying a me was the idea what one day we would leave and he would not get to see us (he said us, which was interesting) as often as he liked.

When we had our son and then our daughter, this became all the more tough on them. The same of course was true of my mother while we were in Korea.

Now my in-laws visit once every 18 months or so and we go to Korea each year on a family visit. As a result, our kids are close to their grandparents in Korea and to their grandmother here in Canada and that is huge for us and them.

We also set up a skype account and a laptop with webcam for them so they get to speak with and see their grandkids once per week online.

One of the hardest moments was when we left Korea, the scene at the aiport was gut wrenching.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:

On the bolded part, my FIL and I got drunk together a a couple if years after I married his daughter. Towards the end of the evening, he told me the hardest part about his daughter dating and marrying a me was the idea what one day we would leave and he would not get to see us (he said us, which was interesting) as often as he liked.


That must have been a pleasant surprise!

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When we had our son and then our daughter, this became all the more tough on them. The same of course was true of my mother while we were in Korea.

Now my in-laws visit once every 18 months or so and we go to Korea each year on a family visit. As a result, our kids are close to their grandparents in Korea and to their grandmother here in Canada and that is huge for us and them.

We also set up a skype account and a laptop with webcam for them so they get to speak with and see their grandkids once per week online.


Good old Skype! It's our Saturday or Sunday morning routine. Although, my daughter, who just turned 5, she doesn't always show as much interest as we'd hope. I feel bad for the in-laws when she has those moments.

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One of the hardest moments was when we left Korea, the scene at the aiport was gut wrenching.


Oh yeah. The airport goodbye is tough. We had a few moments like that leading up to our grand departure. It was especially tough on my mother in law as she had been taking care of our daughter during the days while my wife and I were working, so obviously had a special bond with her.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here Newbie, my mother-in-law was devasted.

As for skype our son is older (7) but our daughter is still a bit young and tends to wander off! Still its our Sat or Sun morning routine as well. Very Happy

As for my FIL, after the first few meetings we hit it off pretty well. We each made efforts to understand the other and respect each other. I admire the man, he worked hard his whole life but was and is always there for his kids. As a grandfather he has been an all-star.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just FYI, I know of two guys who met their girlfriends parents and were flat out rejected for 6-8 months, they stuck with it and eventually the parents accepted them and maybe respect them more for putting up with all the crap. I'm interested in women meeting mother in laws because from what I understand that is the more dreaded relationship here and one of the main reasons korean girls like our indifferent, apathetic, and "open-minded" mamas.

Anyway, I've met 4 gf's parents to date and let me say the dad never made the cut. One of them was bald and I was like OH HAYELL NO, aint gon be no bald babies in my family. Other one was a korean language teacher, really? Isn't that his native language...and that's what he does for a living? Then there was the one that could barely say "hello" in English even though he had been studying it for like 15 years in school and college - genes definitely aren't on the intelligent side. Then there was the one that was fat, and I couldn't help but cringe at the thought of what my dad would think about me bringing a plus sized father in law home with me.

To give some advice
- check if the father is bald, that means his daughter is carrying the bald gene
- ask to eat at their house so you can taste the mom's cooking because you will be eating a lot of that, if they insist on a restaurant, insist she put some of her kimchi in tupperware
- don't let the dad or mom get away with a general answer about their employment like "secretary" or "professor"...ask for hard numbers, monthly salary AND what they save each month
- LOOK AT THE HOUSE....I say house because if it's an apartment run...don't walk....RUN AWAY
- is her mom hot? (nobody cares if she WAS a beauty queen)
- is her grandmother on the father's side hot?
- how much is dad going to put down for the wedding?
- can they use a knife and fork?


I don't know, there are a lot more questions you should be asking, but those will do for a start. Remember not to show emotion during the meeting, keep that poker face. Well, maybe occasionally pause to stare at the ceiling and sigh in an ambiguous manner that will keep them guessing.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hiamnotcool wrote:

Anyway, I've met 4 gf's parents to date and let me say the dad never made the cut. One of them was bald and I was like OH HAYELL NO, aint gon be no bald babies in my family. Other one was a korean language teacher, really? Isn't that his native language...and that's what he does for a living? Then there was the one that could barely say "hello" in English even though he had been studying it for like 15 years in school and college - genes definitely aren't on the intelligent side. Then there was the one that was fat, and I couldn't help but cringe at the thought of what my dad would think about me bringing a plus sized father in law home with me.

To give some advice
- check if the father is bald, that means his daughter is carrying the bald gene
- ask to eat at their house so you can taste the mom's cooking because you will be eating a lot of that, if they insist on a restaurant, insist she put some of her kimchi in tupperware
- don't let the dad or mom get away with a general answer about their employment like "secretary" or "professor"...ask for hard numbers, monthly salary AND what they save each month
- LOOK AT THE HOUSE....I say house because if it's an apartment run...don't walk....RUN AWAY
- is her mom hot? (nobody cares if she WAS a beauty queen)
- is her grandmother on the father's side hot?
- how much is dad going to put down for the wedding?
- can they use a knife and fork?


^^ That's pretty damn funny. Thanks for the laugh this morning.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
It actually felt like a job interview. "Where did you go to school?" "What did you study?" "What are you going to do with your like?" "What was your mother's/father's job?". Very practical in a way - making sure I could support their daughter and that I came from a good family.


Reminds me of a scene in Family guy where a white guy meets his Asian girlfriend's parents.

"Where you go to school? What you study? What kind of job you have? How much you make?"

"About 200,000 a year."

"Welcome to family!"
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
chungbukdo wrote:
For you guys who know in advance that the father hates mixed relationships and stuff, how did it actually turn out upon meeting with the father?


Initially the guy was going to kill me (and her), but upon meeting me he realized I'm awesome...now I'm the golden child. Cool

Eat kimchi, drink Cass, speak Korean, and love Korea...nobody can hate someone like that.


Introduce yourself and immediately say "Dokdo is Korea's land!"

Instant success.
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