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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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This reminds me of one student I had who tried to instruct me on the
correct pronunciation of "syrup".
I had been talking about things from Canada and had mentioned maple
syrup.
The way I pronounce it, and the way I've always heard it pronounced
"sir up".
The student asked me what is "sir up"?
So I explained what syrup was.
He then said, "oh, you mean 'see rup'.
I could see that he was expecting to make an "issue" over it,
I just had to start laughing, shook my head and moved on to another topic.
No one in the world (besides Koreans) pronounces it like that.
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transmogrifier
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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I don't pronounce it either way.
It's kind of like the "Cyr" part of Cyril + ip (as in "lip")
But I'm from NZ. |
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rockbilly
Joined: 19 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:33 am Post subject: Hog won |
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| So . . . which hog won? |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
This reminds me of one student I had who tried to instruct me on the
correct pronunciation of "syrup".
I had been talking about things from Canada and had mentioned maple
syrup.
The way I pronounce it, and the way I've always heard it pronounced
"sir up".
The student asked me what is "sir up"?
So I explained what syrup was.
He then said, "oh, you mean 'see rup'.
I could see that he was expecting to make an "issue" over it,
I just had to start laughing, shook my head and moved on to another topic.
No one in the world (besides Koreans) pronounces it like that. |
Canadian here... I, and every one I know, is closer to his pronunciation than to yours.
We are all "seer up"
I've heard a few "sir up" like you, but always thought that was limited to Americans. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
I vote for hawgwanna.
and newbies would be classed as "hawgwannabees".
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And if you work in one, you're a 'hawgwannista'? |
And if you own one, you're the hagwonati.
As for "syrup", we all know from rappers that the correct pronunciation is sizzurp.
I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome"  |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome" |
Well, we are supposed to be teaching them English. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome" |
Well, we are supposed to be teaching them English. |
True, and I still teach them Paris, Rome, and Moscow.
I was more referring to the guy who doesn't know that the English pronunciation of those places is just as, if not more butchered than the Korean pronunciation. Sadly, I've met a few NETs who think like that. I must say, they uh, all seemed to be from a certain country where soccer is less popular. |
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le-paul
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome" |
Well, we are supposed to be teaching them English. |
True, and I still teach them Paris, Rome, and Moscow.
I was more referring to the guy who doesn't know that the English pronunciation of those places is just as, if not more butchered than the Korean pronunciation. Sadly, I've met a few NETs who think like that. I must say, they uh, all seemed to be from a certain country where soccer is less popular. |
whats a soccer?
and i dont understand your point. how one would teach the pronunciation of a place surely, is how it would be written on an information board at an international airport. for example 'india' not 'indo'.
how is it butchered? |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| le-paul wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome" |
Well, we are supposed to be teaching them English. |
True, and I still teach them Paris, Rome, and Moscow.
I was more referring to the guy who doesn't know that the English pronunciation of those places is just as, if not more butchered than the Korean pronunciation. Sadly, I've met a few NETs who think like that. I must say, they uh, all seemed to be from a certain country where soccer is less popular. |
whats a soccer?
and i dont understand your point. how one would teach the pronunciation of a place surely, is how it would be written on an information board at an international airport. for example 'india' not 'indo'.
how is it butchered? |
The point is, English ain't exactly the greatest at nailing the pronunciation of other people's words, so don't get too high and mighty. Teach Rome, but acknowledge that Roma would probably get a better reaction from Italians. |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| le-paul wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| I still shudder to think how many NETs out there are telling their students that they are wrong for saying Italia/Roma/Moskba and other international locations. "It's not Roma, it's Rome" |
Well, we are supposed to be teaching them English. |
True, and I still teach them Paris, Rome, and Moscow.
I was more referring to the guy who doesn't know that the English pronunciation of those places is just as, if not more butchered than the Korean pronunciation. Sadly, I've met a few NETs who think like that. I must say, they uh, all seemed to be from a certain country where soccer is less popular. |
whats a soccer?
and i dont understand your point. how one would teach the pronunciation of a place surely, is how it would be written on an information board at an international airport. for example 'india' not 'indo'.
how is it butchered? |
The point is, English ain't exactly the greatest at nailing the pronunciation of other people's words, so don't get too high and mighty. Teach Rome, but acknowledge that Roma would probably get a better reaction from Italians. |
Right.
And don't even bother getting started on how many French words are used/abused/and butchered by English speakers.
It's all good and fun to make fun of Korean things like "fighting!" but to seriously get upset or think Koreans are idiots for butchering English... well, they ain't the only ones. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 10:42 am Post subject: |
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| Newbie wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
This reminds me of one student I had who tried to instruct me on the
correct pronunciation of "syrup".
I had been talking about things from Canada and had mentioned maple
syrup.
The way I pronounce it, and the way I've always heard it pronounced
"sir up".
The student asked me what is "sir up"?
So I explained what syrup was.
He then said, "oh, you mean 'see rup'.
I could see that he was expecting to make an "issue" over it,
I just had to start laughing, shook my head and moved on to another topic.
No one in the world (besides Koreans) pronounces it like that. |
Canadian here... I, and every one I know, is closer to his pronunciation than to yours.
We are all "seer up"
I've heard a few "sir up" like you, but always thought that was limited to Americans. |
Kewl!
Americans and I guess Western Canadians then, it depends where you are from. There is no right and wrong, just regional differences. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
This reminds me of one student I had who tried to instruct me on the
correct pronunciation of "syrup".
I had been talking about things from Canada and had mentioned maple
syrup.
The way I pronounce it, and the way I've always heard it pronounced
"sir up".
The student asked me what is "sir up"?
So I explained what syrup was.
He then said, "oh, you mean 'see rup'.
I could see that he was expecting to make an "issue" over it,
I just had to start laughing, shook my head and moved on to another topic.
No one in the world (besides Koreans) pronounces it like that. |
Canadian here... I, and every one I know, is closer to his pronunciation than to yours.
We are all "seer up"
I've heard a few "sir up" like you, but always thought that was limited to Americans. |
Kewl!
Americans and I guess Western Canadians then, it depends where you are from. There is no right and wrong, just regional differences. |
Lesson learned: Stop and consider alternative explanations first before considering the other person as wrong and before chalking it up to another example of Korean ridiculousness. |
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rockbilly
Joined: 19 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 2:33 am Post subject: Hag v. Hog |
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Still no winner on this thread!
Either the hag won or the hog won. I wanna know which one won!
Current score:
HAG 0
HOG 0 |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| Hagworts. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| Newbie wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
This reminds me of one student I had who tried to instruct me on the
correct pronunciation of "syrup".
I had been talking about things from Canada and had mentioned maple
syrup.
The way I pronounce it, and the way I've always heard it pronounced
"sir up".
The student asked me what is "sir up"?
So I explained what syrup was.
He then said, "oh, you mean 'see rup'.
I could see that he was expecting to make an "issue" over it,
I just had to start laughing, shook my head and moved on to another topic.
No one in the world (besides Koreans) pronounces it like that. |
Canadian here... I, and every one I know, is closer to his pronunciation than to yours.
We are all "seer up"
I've heard a few "sir up" like you, but always thought that was limited to Americans. |
Kewl!
Americans and I guess Western Canadians then, it depends where you are from. There is no right and wrong, just regional differences. |
Western Canadian here... I've always pronounced it "sir up". |
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