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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| mike1two wrote: |
English teachers in Korea are English teachers in Korea for a reason. This topic and the posts just serve as evidence.
I could say America is similar to a spoiled brat. Young, wealthy, spoiled and bratty. That doesn't seem fair though... |
Young, wealthy, spoiled and bratty could be used to describe the nouveau riche culture that has emerged here in the past decade or so. If anything, America is old, flabby and in need of good shake-up. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: Are Koreans the Irish of Asia? Here�s a Case |
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| It is a silly anaolgy, 100% of the residents of Dokdo are Korean and want to be Korean. In NI there is still a demorcratic majority who wish to remain apart of Britain. Furthermore the UKs position has for a long time been to support the self-determination of NI. |
Typo...a part?
Or did you really mean apart..as in separated from?
Just curios, as they basically have opposing meanings. |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you explain what you mean? How is Korea playing the victim card? And what exactly is the US doing to help Korea? |
Sorry, I don't play with trolls. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:58 am Post subject: Re: Are Koreans the Irish of Asia? Here�s a Case |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| aq8knyus wrote: |
| It is a silly anaolgy, 100% of the residents of Dokdo are Korean and want to be Korean. In NI there is still a demorcratic majority who wish to remain apart of Britain. Furthermore the UKs position has for a long time been to support the self-determination of NI. |
Typo...a part?
Or did you really mean apart..as in separated from?
Just curios, as they basically have opposing meanings. |
Thanks for the heads up, my last post was a disaster. I also misspelled 'democratic'. |
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| mike1two wrote: |
Can you explain what you mean? How is Korea playing the victim card? And what exactly is the US doing to help Korea? |
C'mon now... you've never actually been to Korea or met a Korean, have you? |
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John Stamos jr.
Joined: 07 Oct 2012
Location: Namsan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Newbie wrote: |
| mike1two wrote: |
Can you explain what you mean? How is Korea playing the victim card? And what exactly is the US doing to help Korea? |
C'mon now... you've never actually been to Korea or met a Korean, have you? |
Pretty certain that guy IS Korean. |
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Oatmeal Prince
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Are Koreans the Irish of Asia? Here�s a Case |
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| Ireland, give me UK analogs to 21st Century JP politicians and academics denying the Nanjing Massacre, Korean female captives, and other WWII atrocities, along with current claims on Korean territory, and I�ll then say that the Irish are truly wonderful for putting aside their grievances with the British Crown. |
To the quoted comment in the OP: Wh..wh...what? My mind just EXPLODED. The Japanese dispute Korea's claim to two rocks and the water surrounding them. (Even though they make no genuine effort to challenge Korea's de facto administration of the rocks.) The UK still OWNS approx 1/5th (geographically) of the island we call Ireland.
That goes well beyond an analog, you wanker. You want an analog? Imagine that in the Imjin War (the late-16th century timing here is perfect for the analogy's extension, since the Nine Years' War took place at the same time) the Japanese colonized South Gyeongsang & Busan and never actually left and still controlled the territory to this day. THAT would be the equivalent to "current claims on Korean territory." |
It is a silly anaolgy, 100% of the residents of Dokdo are Korean and want to be Korean. In NI there is still a demorcratic majority who wish to remain apart of Britain. Furthermore the UKs position has for a long time been to support the self-determination of NI. |
It's funny that you implicitly support my post. Surely, yes, all two residents of Dokdo are Korean; by indicating this, though, you are admitting that not 100% of the residents of NI are of actual Irish ancestry--that's the bloody point. Because Britain's colonial designs on the island involved waves of settlements to displace native Irish people from the northern part of the country, a larger number of Northern Irish people are of course of Scottish and English ancestry. There is obviously nothing wrong with being of Scottish and English ancestry, but when these folk constituted the ruling class of NI for hundreds of years, no one ought to be surprised that they have long sought to remain part of Britain; thus, this fact shouldn't be used to excuse Britain's initial colonization of NI, and it does nothing to diminish the analogy I drew. |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Are Koreans the Irish of Asia? Here�s a Case |
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
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| Ireland, give me UK analogs to 21st Century JP politicians and academics denying the Nanjing Massacre, Korean female captives, and other WWII atrocities, along with current claims on Korean territory, and I�ll then say that the Irish are truly wonderful for putting aside their grievances with the British Crown. |
To the quoted comment in the OP: Wh..wh...what? My mind just EXPLODED. The Japanese dispute Korea's claim to two rocks and the water surrounding them. (Even though they make no genuine effort to challenge Korea's de facto administration of the rocks.) The UK still OWNS approx 1/5th (geographically) of the island we call Ireland.
That goes well beyond an analog, you wanker. You want an analog? Imagine that in the Imjin War (the late-16th century timing here is perfect for the analogy's extension, since the Nine Years' War took place at the same time) the Japanese colonized South Gyeongsang & Busan and never actually left and still controlled the territory to this day. THAT would be the equivalent to "current claims on Korean territory." |
It is a silly anaolgy, 100% of the residents of Dokdo are Korean and want to be Korean. In NI there is still a demorcratic majority who wish to remain apart of Britain. Furthermore the UKs position has for a long time been to support the self-determination of NI. |
It's funny that you implicitly support my post. Surely, yes, all two residents of Dokdo are Korean; by indicating this, though, you are admitting that not 100% of the residents of NI are of actual Irish ancestry--that's the bloody point. Because Britain's colonial designs on the island involved waves of settlements to displace native Irish people from the northern part of the country, a larger number of Northern Irish people are of course of Scottish and English ancestry. There is obviously nothing wrong with being of Scottish and English ancestry, but when these folk constituted the ruling class of NI for hundreds of years, no one ought to be surprised that they have long sought to remain part of Britain; thus, this fact shouldn't be used to excuse Britain's initial colonization of NI, and it does nothing to diminish the analogy I drew. |
Actual Irish ancestry? Whatever their ancestry they have been in Ulster for longer than most UN member states have even existed. I wasn't trying to make an excuse for the plantation because it doesn't need one. Its history, it happened.
Also it didn't begin out of nowhere, maybe if the O'Neils of Ulster hadn't conspired with Rome the reaction would not have similarly been so dramatic.
In any case, as this discussion proves, Korea and Ireland cannot be compared because unsurprisingly their respective historical experiences are far too dissimilar. Its just another uninformed person making an uninformed assertion. I think that is a conclusion we can both agree on. |
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