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demitri
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[quote] Every Korean cheats on their wife[/quote]
I stopped paying attention to this child at this point. Pathetic. Why oh why must this business be full of people like this? |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Kuval,
Your OP read like a deer caught in the headlights report which is perfectly normal. That story has been told a million times here, which has nothing to do with you.
I think some people (myself included) found some of the things you said to be a little bit ignorant/too much insight into personnal issues (ex: all korean men cheat, comments on hookers, passage about your intimacy with your GF). Your OP was sort of laced with these sweeping judgements and with 5 months in-country, it is kind of sad that someone would make such statements. Still, perhaps it was not your intention but rather just how it came off once posted.
Good luck in Korea and I wish you the best there. |
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Kuval
Joined: 19 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| demitri wrote: |
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| Every Korean cheats on their wife |
I stopped paying attention to this child at this point. Pathetic. Why oh why must this business be full of people like this? |
This was explained to me in depth by my ex gf... my co-teachers whilest they were drunk one night, and some other expats.
When I said Every, I guess I meant about 50%. Which is a crazy number... and I'm not sure if that number is too big or too small. I know it's a ridiculously huge number compared to faithful marriages back home. But then again, I don't think the divorce rate is as high here... so people might be cheating a lot more here because they ride out the wave of their marriage.
You don't have to look very far to see the signs of it. Pink light districts flood the cities. Hooker cards on the ground everywhere... I've been pulled into a place in itaewon by a vicious hooker. I mean, the shit is everywhere. These hookers aren't fueled 100% by military men looking to get their rocks off. They're fueled by the citizens of Korea.
Is it an offensive statement? I believe it to be factual. Take as much offense in it as you take offense in my belief that the southern states still contain much more racism than liberal states. Is it offensive to say that? I'm sure many people from Alabama protest that claim, but I still believe it to be true. Sorry for your offense. Don't be offended so easily, I guess. Prove it otherwise and I'll be happy to change my belief. |
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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: |
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When I said Every, I guess I meant about 50%. Which is a crazy number... and I'm not sure if that number is too big or too small. I know it's a ridiculously huge number compared to faithful marriages back home. |
"Alfred Kinsey found that married men cheated at rates of around 50 percent. In 1953, Kinsey showed that 26 percent of married women had also been unfaithful. Estimates today find married men cheating at rates between 25 percent and 72 percent. Given that many people are loath to admit that they cheat, research on cheating may underestimate its prevalence. But it appears that cheating is as common as fidelity."
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-02-13/opinions/35442797_1_current-partner-wealthy-men-text-messages |
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fionnjameson
Joined: 11 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Kuval wrote: |
When I said Every, I guess I meant about 50%. Which is a crazy number... and I'm not sure if that number is too big or too small. I know it's a ridiculously huge number compared to faithful marriages back home. But then again, I don't think the divorce rate is as high here... so people might be cheating a lot more here because they ride out the wave of their marriage.
You don't have to look very far to see the signs of it. Pink light districts flood the cities. Hooker cards on the ground everywhere... I've been pulled into a place in itaewon by a vicious hooker. I mean, the shit is everywhere. These hookers aren't fueled 100% by military men looking to get their rocks off. They're fueled by the citizens of Korea.
Is it an offensive statement? I believe it to be factual. |
Wow. WHAT A...
50%? As opposed to? What country are you referring to when you say some crap about happy marriages back home? Which country is this? Please don't say USA or else I will vomit into my hat.
Furthermore, you BELIEVE it to be factual. On what basis? You just being in Korea FOR 5 MONTHS? Good lord. Stick around for a couple more years and maybe then, just maybe, I'll believe you.
Your post about sex with your Korean ex-gf being different from sex with other women...AHHH...DON'T EVEN WANT TO TOUCH THAT WITH A TEN FOOT POLE. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well, this study (and it is just one study, mind you) shows almost 80% of married Korean men admit to adultery, and only 15% or so of the women.
The study here doesn't say if they count prostitution or not, which I read somewhere is NOT adultery in Korea (the source could be wrong though).
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2008/12/why-is-adultery/
Are some posters claiming that he is way off base when he claims that prostitution is prevalent here? It accounts for between 1.6 to 4% of the GDP (depending on the study) and is roughly equivalent to forestry, agriculture and fishing combined. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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what constitutes cheating is highly subjective and varies depending on culture, economic status, religion, as well as each individual's perception of it.
it reminds me of the old joke often spoken when finishing up at the urinal...
"remember, more than three shakes and it's technically..." well, you know.LOL |
IIRC, the source that I read (can't vouch for its accuracy however) mentioned that adultery had to have some sort of "emotional component" which was characterized by phone class, text messages, emails etc. I think it also mentioned it had to be ongoing (although I don't know how cheating once is not adultery). It was my perception that they were trying to draw a line between "cheating" and going to a room salon with your boss and co-workers.
I didn't find the OP as bad as some people think it is. Poorly written maybe. Naive, maybe. But, I thought that it was fairly positive and pretty accurate as well (except perhaps for the incorrect use of modifiers such as "every", which in common usage usually means "many").
As far as the sex with his girlfriend. I am not sure I would have shared as much, BUT, there ARE differences in the dating/sexual culture in Korea compared to where a lot of us are from (or there were when I was young and single, I have no idea what the "scene" is like now). I don't know which differences the OP was referring to specifically (and OP...please don't clarify that for me, I don't need to know) - but you have to admit, there ARE differences. |
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F5Waeg
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| This thread is what happens when people fresh off the boat mix with people who have been here for years. |
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That said, there is very little in your essay that hasn't been posted at 10,000 other blogs about teaching in Korea and thus, very little new or interesting content. |
yeah.
Except I would disagree about learning the Korean alphabet. Took me about 40 minutes to get the basics down. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Learning the K-alphabet is easy. Using it correctly is not.  |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Exactly. There are a lot of rules for the 한글 alphabet; for example, 꽃입 is pronounced 꼰닙. (The ㅊ changes to ㄴ and the ㅇ changes to ㄴ.) And once you learn all the rules, the letters are hard as heck to pronounce. It takes a LONG time to get good at Korean. |
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F5Waeg
Joined: 25 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Learning the K-alphabet is easy. Using it correctly is not. |
I was commenting only on the first bit, not the second  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:59 am Post subject: |
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| F5Waeg wrote: |
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| Learning the K-alphabet is easy. Using it correctly is not. |
I was commenting only on the first bit, not the second |
Indeed! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| Exactly. There are a lot of rules for the 한글 alphabet; for example, 꽃입 is pronounced 꼰닙. (The ㅊ changes to ㄴ and the ㅇ changes to ㄴ.) And once you learn all the rules, the letters are hard as heck to pronounce. It takes a LONG time to get good at Korean. |
How long it takes depends on many things, namely the time you put in, your motivation for learning, how much practice you get and so on. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| diver wrote: |
Well, this study (and it is just one study, mind you) shows almost 80% of married Korean men admit to adultery, and only 15% or so of the women.
The study here doesn't say if they count prostitution or not, which I read somewhere is NOT adultery in Korea (the source could be wrong though).
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2008/12/why-is-adultery/
Are some posters claiming that he is way off base when he claims that prostitution is prevalent here? It accounts for between 1.6 to 4% of the GDP (depending on the study) and is roughly equivalent to forestry, agriculture and fishing combined. |
There is a difference between "almost 80% of married Korean men admit to adultery" and "almost 80% of married Korean men in one study admit to adultery."
As to prostitution being so prevelant here
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| Rather than legalizing commercial sex we advocate the implementation of the so called Nordic Model. In this legal scheme the selling of sex is decriminalized and the purchase of sex is highly criminalized. In Sweden, Denmark and South Korea, where this model is enforce, prostituted persons receive social protections and treatment while johns and pimps go to jail and pay fines. By driving up the cost of buying sex authorities have been able to significantly reduce demand. |
http://correlatesoftrafficking.wordpress.com/2011/06/14/happy_hookers/ |
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