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Taking pictures at beaches could lead to punishment
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hogwonguy1979 wrote:
think this has been said before here but the hypocrisy of the Koreans going after foreigners for doing this after all the shots they take of western women at mudfest etc is amazing

its the double standard that its ok for koreans to do/have something but wrong for us waygooks is what really bothers me.


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Those around him looked at him suspiciously and alerted the authorities of what was taking place on the beach.



It would only be hypocrisy if

(1) The people who alerted the police to this guy taking photos were the same people taking shots of Western women at mudfest.


(2) The cops who gave this guy grief are the same cops at mudfest.
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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion"

Unless they're in restrooms taking pictures ~
http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/2013/08/snapping-in-boys-room.html
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
"One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion"

Unless they're in restrooms taking pictures ~
http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/2013/08/snapping-in-boys-room.html



Actually that is a foreigner taking said picture.

Might want to read that link again.
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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
"One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion"

Unless they're in restrooms taking pictures ~
http://populargusts.blogspot.kr/2013/08/snapping-in-boys-room.html



Actually that is a foreigner taking said picture.

Might want to read that link again.


It looks like a Korean male to me standing by the tripod. Do you think a foreigner would be allowed to set up his tripod in a Seoul public park restroom?

Or how about CCTV in the student's restrooms?

Schools caught running CCTV in violation of rules
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130825000237
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either way, unless that guy was aiming at the ladies restroom, it doesn't seem like he's up to any harm.

I have a feeling that if some foreigner was dressed in outdoorsy gear and clearly aiming a camera outside into the wilderness, that most Koreans wouldn't give a hoot.

I don't know who that dude is in the bathroom, but I am pretty sure he wants or has nothing to do with racial hypocrisy.
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ATM SPIDERTAO



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Location: seoul, south korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm

I'm surprised nobody has said this yet. I'm not 100% certain about the LAW.

but "common knowledge" (I use quotations because common knowledge in Korea is that Fan Death is real)

is that you CANNOT take anyone's pictures in ANY public setting without their permission.

i am talking about their face.

you can't even take a picture of a group of your friends and have someone's face in side of there.

it's pretty weird

they understand tabloids and papparazzi or however you spell it. but their attitude is that "they are famous so they should get pictures taken of them"

it is literally perceived as ILLEGAL to take a picture of someone's face for any reason or form, not alone the body.

the very notion of being in public and therefore you are in the public's eye and will be subject to getting your picture taken by tourists is not in this culture's viewpoint.

once again, i must say that i do not know about the actual LAW in itself, but you can't take any unwilling pictures of people.

koreans get pretty darn touchy about this. it's kind of like how Americans feel about racism. they take it that offensively if you try to take their picture
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RangerMcGreggor



Joined: 12 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATM SPIDERTAO wrote:
Hmmm

I'm surprised nobody has said this yet. I'm not 100% certain about the LAW.

but "common knowledge" (I use quotations because common knowledge in Korea is that Fan Death is real)

is that you CANNOT take anyone's pictures in ANY public setting without their permission.

i am talking about their face.

you can't even take a picture of a group of your friends and have someone's face in side of there.

it's pretty weird

they understand tabloids and papparazzi or however you spell it. but their attitude is that "they are famous so they should get pictures taken of them"

it is literally perceived as ILLEGAL to take a picture of someone's face for any reason or form, not alone the body.

the very notion of being in public and therefore you are in the public's eye and will be subject to getting your picture taken by tourists is not in this culture's viewpoint.

once again, i must say that i do not know about the actual LAW in itself, but you can't take any unwilling pictures of people.

koreans get pretty darn touchy about this. it's kind of like how Americans feel about racism. they take it that offensively if you try to take their picture


This is a pretty standard misconception everywhere, not just Korea. Blame it on people posting humiliating photos on the internet and "street photographers" who don't know what they are doing. Street photographers all have their stories from everywhere
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ATM SPIDERTAO wrote:
Hmmm

I'm surprised nobody has said this yet. I'm not 100% certain about the LAW.

but "common knowledge" (I use quotations because common knowledge in Korea is that Fan Death is real)

is that you CANNOT take anyone's pictures in ANY public setting without their permission.

i am talking about their face.

you can't even take a picture of a group of your friends and have someone's face in side of there.

it's pretty weird

they understand tabloids and papparazzi or however you spell it. but their attitude is that "they are famous so they should get pictures taken of them"

it is literally perceived as ILLEGAL to take a picture of someone's face for any reason or form, not alone the body.

the very notion of being in public and therefore you are in the public's eye and will be subject to getting your picture taken by tourists is not in this culture's viewpoint.

once again, i must say that i do not know about the actual LAW in itself, but you can't take any unwilling pictures of people.

koreans get pretty darn touchy about this. it's kind of like how Americans feel about racism. they take it that offensively if you try to take their picture



According to this guy who IS a photographer it is not illegal to take a picture of someone in Korea without their consent.

http://metropolitician.blogs.com/scribblings_of_the_metrop/2007/01/korean_photo_pa.html


He even posts the relevant law which is in Korean.


You can't use it for commercial purposes (which is the same in America) but just like in America you can take pictures of someone for your own private use. And you can't take pictures where they have a certain expectation of privacy...but again that is the same law back in the West.

The fact that some people find it annoying...does not change that.
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dairyairy



Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Taking pictures at beaches could lead to punishment Reply with quote

dairyairy wrote:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/07/116_139926.html

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An exchange student from China, 22, visited Busan’s Haeundae Beach on July 17.

A sudden thought came to him as he watched Korean girls in bikinis playing in the water. He took out his smartphone and began taking multiple pictures of them.

Those around him looked at him suspiciously and alerted the authorities of what was taking place on the beach. The marine police found him and searched through his phone.

Saved on his phone was over 20 pictures of Korean girls in bikinis. Most of the pictures focused on certain parts of the unsuspecting girls’ bodies.

Accused with sexual harassment, the foreigner claimed, “The Korean girls were so cute and pretty with their make-up that I couldn’t help myself. I didn’t realize taking pictures was a crime.”

Police found his student visa expired last February and took him into custody for staying in the country illegally.

As the weather gets hotter, sex crimes at Haeundae Beach increase as well.

There have already been five suspects apprehended on charges of sex crimes this year at the beach. All of them had been taking pictures of certain parts of bikini-clad Korean girls.

If three to four full-body shots have been taken, there is a possibility of being released without punishment only if the targets of the pictures choose not to press charges and the photos are deleted.

However, if a girl feels she was being violated by focusing the picture on certain parts of her body, the perpetrator will face arrest and punishment. There have been five cases of foreigners taking unauthorized pictures of girls.

One police official stated, “Korean men usually don’t do anything that arouse suspicion, but foreign men have a tendency to satisfy their curiosity and take pictures. If you want to take pictures of a girl, ask her for her admission and even if you get the shot, posting it online is illegal.”




Did the Korea Times invent a source to malign foreigners?
http://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/1lkeo8/did_the_korea_times_invent_a_source_to_malign/
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, cool that they got a response.
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