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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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 Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| Keep your chin up, OP. It's only for a year. |
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mortilap1
Joined: 12 Oct 2013
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Next time you want to have a cry, have a laugh instead. Laugh at the absurdity of it all. Laugh at the situation you are in. Laugh at the students, their parents, the administration of the school in which you are working. It's not worth shedding a tear. They are having fun (the students) and the don't want to do what you tell them to do. Laugh at them. You might get more respect out of them in the process. |
I lol'd reading this. Couldn't agree more. People tend to take life so seriously- sometimes you just gotta step back from what you're doing and laugh.
OP,
Your life situation could be FAR worse when compared to most of the world. Be thankful that you are where you are. Kids will be kids- of course they won't listen at times. Don't get so hung up on things, don't take things so seriously. Roll with the punches. Laugh at the absurdity of where you've wound up  |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| It's easy to forget that they are just kids, even when they do the opposite of what you tell them to do out of spite, or call you bad names in Korean, or steal things from your bag when you're not looking, or laugh at you when you try to teach them something. That's when you need to take a deep breath and remember that they are just kids being kids. They are completely innocent. Little angels sent from heaven that will grow into respectful and well meaning adults. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| I cried in front of one of my kindergarten classes today. They do not listen to me, some of them ignore me, some flat out tell me "no" when I ask them to do something. They didn't all participate in hangman, |
Why the F are you doing hangman with Kindergarteners! |
Why are you such an incompetent teacher? Plenty of Kindergarten kids are capable of reading, spelling and playing games like that, with an emphasis on sound recognition and proper vocabulary choice. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| I cried in front of one of my kindergarten classes today. They do not listen to me, some of them ignore me, some flat out tell me "no" when I ask them to do something. They didn't all participate in hangman, |
Why the F are you doing hangman with Kindergarteners! |
Why are you such an incompetent teacher? Plenty of Kindergarten kids are capable of reading, spelling and playing games like that, with an emphasis on sound recognition and proper vocabulary choice. |
I agree. Hangman is a great game for teaching. I use it all the time in my adult classes. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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alongway wrote:
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I cried in front of one of my kindergarten classes today. They do not listen to me, some of them ignore me, some flat out tell me "no" when I ask them to do something. They didn't all participate in hangman,
Why the F are you doing hangman with Kindergarteners!
Why are you such an incompetent teacher? Plenty of Kindergarten kids are capable of reading, spelling and playing games like that, with an emphasis on sound recognition and proper vocabulary choice.
I agree. Hangman is a great game for teaching. I use it all the time in my adult classes. |
1. Hangman is a 'guessing game' there is nothing educational about guessing!
2. They either know the answer or they don't, so how are they making any progress?
3. Teaching Kindergarten, usually there can be up to 3-4 years age difference between the kids. The youngest ones cannot access hangman (normally).
4. Kindergarteners need to be active learners' not just sitting there, waiting, and if they're lucky getting to say one letter. They ALL need to be doing something MOST of the time. If this doesn't happen, this is when bad behaviour can creep in.
5. 95% of the time when I hear ESL teachers saying that they are playing hangman with classes, it is normally because they have run out of ideas to use in class (class finished sooner than expected) = badly prepared or their original game/activity has bombed and they reach for the safe haven that is 'hangman' 
Not having a go at the original OP btw. I got my certificate from Equatorial Kundu before anyone starts to question my credentials. |
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alongway
Joined: 02 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:09 am Post subject: |
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1. Hangman is a 'guessing game' there is nothing educational about guessing!
2. They either know the answer or they don't, so how are they making any progress?
3. Teaching Kindergarten, usually there can be up to 3-4 years age difference between the kids. The youngest ones cannot access hangman (normally).
4. Kindergarteners need to be active learners' not just sitting there, waiting, and if they're lucky getting to say one letter. They ALL need to be doing something MOST of the time. If this doesn't happen, this is when bad behaviour can creep in.
5. 95% of the time when I hear ESL teachers saying that they are playing hangman with classes, it is normally because they have run out of ideas to use in class (class finished sooner than expected) = badly prepared or their original game/activity has bombed and they reach for the safe haven that is 'hangman' Rolling Eyes |
1. it's partially a guessing game, in a kindergarten you use it with picture vocabulary.
2. Again, this goes to the competence of an instructor. You encourage them to listen to the word and sound it out and see if they can figure out the letters needed to spell the word based on sounds. You often use this in conjunction with a specific phonics sound.
3. Kindergartens are all broke into age levels, 4, 5, 6, 7. Some after school classes or hagwons might mix them together, but it's unusual to mix them more than one age level above or below, unless it's something like a Learn and Gym class, even then it's not common.
4. Back to competence and classroom management. As you're encouraging them to sound out the word and try and figure out the sounds they are all engaged. Hangman time usually has the least behaviour issues. They're all focused on trying to guess the letter and as the man gets drawn more and more they really get wrapped up in trying to work hard to make sure they win.
5. I can't really speak to that, but it sounds like you have lots of experience with that.
You don't play normal hangman with Kindergarten kids, but any half-way useful teacher would know that. you use picture vocabulary, you encourage them to sound out words and you tie the words into their phonics program so that it reinforces the sounds and spelling patterns they're learning already. |
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:29 am Post subject: |
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alongway wrote:
Lucas wrote:
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I cried in front of one of my kindergarten classes today. They do not listen to me, some of them ignore me, some flat out tell me "no" when I ask them to do something. They didn't all participate in hangman,
Why the F are you doing hangman with Kindergarteners!
Why are you such an incompetent teacher? Plenty of Kindergarten kids are capable of reading, spelling and playing games like that, with an emphasis on sound recognition and proper vocabulary choice.
I agree. Hangman is a great game for teaching. I use it all the time in my adult classes. |
1. Hangman is a 'guessing game' there is nothing educational about guessing!
2. They either know the answer or they don't, so how are they making any progress?
3. Teaching Kindergarten, usually there can be up to 3-4 years age difference between the kids. The youngest ones cannot access hangman (normally).
4. Kindergarteners need to be active learners' not just sitting there, waiting, and if they're lucky getting to say one letter. They ALL need to be doing something MOST of the time. If this doesn't happen, this is when bad behaviour can creep in.
5. 95% of the time when I hear ESL teachers saying that they are playing hangman with classes, it is normally because they have run out of ideas to use in class (class finished sooner than expected) = badly prepared or their original game/activity has bombed and they reach for the safe haven that is 'hangman'
Not having a go at the original OP btw. I got my certificate from Equatorial Kundu before anyone starts to question my credentials. |
He got his certificate from Equatorial Kundu! LMAO 
Things like hangman can occasionally be incorporated into a lesson from those who understand teaching strategies. |
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ippy
Joined: 25 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:24 am Post subject: |
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A bit late in the day, but honestly:
1. Theyre kids. No, scratch that... theyre space aliens.
2. They have zero attention span. If youre not interesting them 100% of the time more than sticking their fingers up their noses or trying to touch your clothes and arm hairs, youre not going to be doing much teaching.
3. As tiny space aliens, they have no real understanding of human concepts like disrespect. There is no power games here. Theyre not trying to humiliate you, they just want to do something more fun.
4. The more they see you, (and the more nurturing you are), the more theyll trust you. It doesnt mean theyll do everything you say mind you, but they might be more likely to come hug you if youre obviously sad.
5. Dance, sing, finger paint, make a mess, tidy it up, and accept that every single word you say is going to be blindly parroted at you with no idea at all behind whats being said. Well, if youre not fully trained in child development. (im not - so there but for the grace of god...)
6. Have fun. Theyre not bratty, theyre not mean, theyre not cruel, theyre just little shi... i mean er, little peaks and troughs of manic id energy and absorption.
I think...
Also... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVJfErLlyLI |
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