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Diana X2
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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hi jjurabong, i'm in a similar boat as you. i've gained some weight here and am highly motivated to reach my ideal weight. can you PM me and we can touch base about details? i have less than the required number of posts so i can't initiate a PM to you...
thanks for posting this! hope to touch base soon
dx2
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:32 am Post subject: |
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My comments may be offensive, but it's nothing compared to the offensive your own body has suffered at your own hands, or should I say mouth!
Now stop bothering me and go back to your dunkin doughnuts. |
tool...you've obviously never seen sistersarah's picture on the picture thread...suffice to say there's nothing wrong with her body. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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My comments may be offensive, but it's nothing compared to the offensive your own body has suffered at your own hands, or should I say mouth!
Now stop bothering me and go back to your dunkin doughnuts. |
buddy, you know nothing about me, my body, or my habits.
Like I said, you obviously have nothing to contribute here.
These are people asking for honest advice.
You're a fool. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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the formula is the same the world over.
move your ass (as much as possible), drop the donut (or whatever other crappy food you may be eating)
I'm going to lose 20 lbs in the next 3 months, you can take that to the bank.
it's easier for guys for two reasons
1) the logical reason is that guys lift weights and combine that with diet, the increased muscle mass increases the rate of one's metabolism.
you should try to incorporate weight lifting, though it'll be much harder and slower for women to build said muscle.
2) the illogical reason that women eat shit as "comfort food"... for whatever stupid reason. One of the reasons men will never understand women.
(after lots of this kind of "comfort food" eating, a girl will have the gall to ask you if her ass looks fat in a pair of jeans or a dress and expect you to say... no honey,. you look great... |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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IN regards to the statement "the last thread was oriented towards men", there isn't really a difference. We lose weight the same way.....and yes women should be hitting the weights too...you lose muscle when losing weight and it's bad for women too...you'll be skinny, but not toned at all and still flabby.
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the formula is the same the world over.
move your ass (as much as possible), drop the donut (or whatever other crappy food you may be eating)
I'm going to lose 20 lbs in the next 3 months, you can take that to the bank.
it's easier for guys for two reasons
1) the logical reason is that guys lift weights and combine that with diet, the increased muscle mass increases the rate of one's metabolism.
you should try to incorporate weight lifting, though it'll be much harder and slower for women to build said muscle.
2) the illogical reason that women eat shit as "comfort food"... for whatever stupid reason. One of the reasons men will never understand women.
(after lots of this kind of "comfort food" eating, a girl will have the gall to ask you if her ass looks fat in a pair of jeans or a dress and expect you to say... no honey,. you look great... |
Err....unless you have a decent amount of muscle(most guys don't), your not gonna be losing tons of calories due to your muscles. If your trying to lose weight, your muscle gains during that period will be small if none at all. It's good to do weights when dieting to minimize muscle loss and speed up metabolism, but don't expect to be losing tons of calories becuase you lift weights every day.....integrate some cardio if your trying to lose weight.
As for comfort food, guys have it too, they just don't call it that. If you ever decided to knock back a few beers becuase it's been a crappy day....same concept for the most part. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Ukon wrote: |
IN regards to the statement "the last thread was oriented towards men", there isn't really a difference. We lose weight the same way.....and yes women should be hitting the weights too...you lose muscle when losing weight and it's bad for women too...you'll be skinny, but not toned at all and still flabby.
| bogey666 wrote: |
the formula is the same the world over.
move your ass (as much as possible), drop the donut (or whatever other crappy food you may be eating)
I'm going to lose 20 lbs in the next 3 months, you can take that to the bank.
it's easier for guys for two reasons
1) the logical reason is that guys lift weights and combine that with diet, the increased muscle mass increases the rate of one's metabolism.
you should try to incorporate weight lifting, though it'll be much harder and slower for women to build said muscle.
2) the illogical reason that women eat shit as "comfort food"... for whatever stupid reason. One of the reasons men will never understand women.
(after lots of this kind of "comfort food" eating, a girl will have the gall to ask you if her ass looks fat in a pair of jeans or a dress and expect you to say... no honey,. you look great... |
Err....unless you have a decent amount of muscle(most guys don't), your not gonna be losing tons of calories due to your muscles. If your trying to lose weight, your muscle gains during that period will be small if none at all. It's good to do weights when dieting to minimize muscle loss and speed up metabolism, but don't expect to be losing tons of calories becuase you lift weights every day.....integrate some cardio if your trying to lose weight.
As for comfort food, guys have it too, they just don't call it that. If you ever decided to knock back a few beers becuase it's been a crappy day....same concept for the most part. |
you may have a point on alcohol part though not applicable to me since I am a very light social drinker and NEVER ever would drink alone. I don't particularly like the taste of booze and if I know it's bad for me, why the hell would I drink it?
but there IS a difference, a physiological difference between men and women and muscle mass and how it relates to losing weight.
what I meant to say for guys was not particularly dieting.. but more like eating healthy, with enough protein and hitting the weights.. guys can build muscle mass much faster and easier than women (thanks to testosterone.. nature giveth and taketh away by same testosterone making many guys bald/ing)
more muscle mass means your basic metabolic rate goes higher as body has to burn more calories with more muscle..
woman can't get same muscle.. hence lack that male advantage..
it's a little harder for them, but it can be done.
whether some women stick to a plan and have the willpower to carry it thru is another matter. Some do... others don't and then go back to thinking men are just "pigs" whereas the pork slabs really lie in one's appearance in the mirror.
whatever.  |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| Ukon wrote: |
IN regards to the statement "the last thread was oriented towards men", there isn't really a difference. We lose weight the same way.....and yes women should be hitting the weights too...you lose muscle when losing weight and it's bad for women too...you'll be skinny, but not toned at all and still flabby.
| bogey666 wrote: |
the formula is the same the world over.
move your ass (as much as possible), drop the donut (or whatever other crappy food you may be eating)
I'm going to lose 20 lbs in the next 3 months, you can take that to the bank.
it's easier for guys for two reasons
1) the logical reason is that guys lift weights and combine that with diet, the increased muscle mass increases the rate of one's metabolism.
you should try to incorporate weight lifting, though it'll be much harder and slower for women to build said muscle.
2) the illogical reason that women eat shit as "comfort food"... for whatever stupid reason. One of the reasons men will never understand women.
(after lots of this kind of "comfort food" eating, a girl will have the gall to ask you if her ass looks fat in a pair of jeans or a dress and expect you to say... no honey,. you look great... |
Err....unless you have a decent amount of muscle(most guys don't), your not gonna be losing tons of calories due to your muscles. If your trying to lose weight, your muscle gains during that period will be small if none at all. It's good to do weights when dieting to minimize muscle loss and speed up metabolism, but don't expect to be losing tons of calories becuase you lift weights every day.....integrate some cardio if your trying to lose weight.
As for comfort food, guys have it too, they just don't call it that. If you ever decided to knock back a few beers becuase it's been a crappy day....same concept for the most part. |
you may have a point on alcohol part though not applicable to me since I am a very light social drinker and NEVER ever would drink alone. I don't particularly like the taste of booze and if I know it's bad for me, why the hell would I drink it?
but there IS a difference, a physiological difference between men and women and muscle mass and how it relates to losing weight.
what I meant to say for guys was not particularly dieting.. but more like eating healthy, with enough protein and hitting the weights.. guys can build muscle mass much faster and easier than women (thanks to testosterone.. nature giveth and taketh away by same testosterone making many guys bald/ing)
more muscle mass means your basic metabolic rate goes higher as body has to burn more calories with more muscle..
woman can't get same muscle.. hence lack that male advantage..
it's a little harder for them, but it can be done.
whether some women stick to a plan and have the willpower to carry it thru is another matter. Some do... others don't and then go back to thinking men are just "pigs" whereas the pork slabs really lie in one's appearance in the mirror.
whatever. |
Why the negative attitude towards women?
Most fat guys I know rarely hit the gym so the whole Muscle factor isn't there.....second you need a lot of muscle to lose significantly more weight just by having the muscles in the first place...it's not like you burn an extra 250 calories a day for every 50 pounds you can bench...diet books will exaggerate how much having a pound or two of muscle will help you lose weight....like they do with everything.
If your "buff", then you can eat more calories than a twig(not much however)...if you only work out occasionally, the calorie benefits are are too meager to take notice. |
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skconqueror
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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My comments may be offensive, but it's nothing compared to the offensive your own body has suffered at your own hands, or should I say mouth!
Now stop bothering me and go back to your dunkin doughnuts. |
tool...you've obviously never seen sistersarah's picture on the picture thread...suffice to say there's nothing wrong with her body. |
Ya, everyone posts their real picture on the internet  |
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whoknew21
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I know the original post is really old... but did anyone ever start a support group? I would be interested in joining / forming said group. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya, everyone posts their real picture on the internet |
Yeah, I did post a real picture of myself. Did you?
I'm pretty sure Goldmember didn't. I wonder why? He seems to like to cut people down, but I bet he's nothing to look at. |
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NilesQ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| There are OA(overeaters anonymous) podcasts on itunes for free. If you have emotional issues that envolve eating as a remedy, these can be an eye opener. Check it out. You are not alone, weak, flawed, or beyond help. No matter if it is 10 lbs or 100 lbs you have to lose, emotional eating is about HOW you eat, not how much you eat. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| Ukon wrote: |
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| Ukon wrote: |
IN regards to the statement "the last thread was oriented towards men", there isn't really a difference. We lose weight the same way.....and yes women should be hitting the weights too...you lose muscle when losing weight and it's bad for women too...you'll be skinny, but not toned at all and still flabby.
| bogey666 wrote: |
the formula is the same the world over.
move your ass (as much as possible), drop the donut (or whatever other crappy food you may be eating)
I'm going to lose 20 lbs in the next 3 months, you can take that to the bank.
it's easier for guys for two reasons
1) the logical reason is that guys lift weights and combine that with diet, the increased muscle mass increases the rate of one's metabolism.
you should try to incorporate weight lifting, though it'll be much harder and slower for women to build said muscle.
2) the illogical reason that women eat shit as "comfort food"... for whatever stupid reason. One of the reasons men will never understand women.
(after lots of this kind of "comfort food" eating, a girl will have the gall to ask you if her ass looks fat in a pair of jeans or a dress and expect you to say... no honey,. you look great... |
Err....unless you have a decent amount of muscle(most guys don't), your not gonna be losing tons of calories due to your muscles. If your trying to lose weight, your muscle gains during that period will be small if none at all. It's good to do weights when dieting to minimize muscle loss and speed up metabolism, but don't expect to be losing tons of calories becuase you lift weights every day.....integrate some cardio if your trying to lose weight.
As for comfort food, guys have it too, they just don't call it that. If you ever decided to knock back a few beers becuase it's been a crappy day....same concept for the most part. |
you may have a point on alcohol part though not applicable to me since I am a very light social drinker and NEVER ever would drink alone. I don't particularly like the taste of booze and if I know it's bad for me, why the hell would I drink it?
but there IS a difference, a physiological difference between men and women and muscle mass and how it relates to losing weight.
what I meant to say for guys was not particularly dieting.. but more like eating healthy, with enough protein and hitting the weights.. guys can build muscle mass much faster and easier than women (thanks to testosterone.. nature giveth and taketh away by same testosterone making many guys bald/ing)
more muscle mass means your basic metabolic rate goes higher as body has to burn more calories with more muscle..
woman can't get same muscle.. hence lack that male advantage..
it's a little harder for them, but it can be done.
whether some women stick to a plan and have the willpower to carry it thru is another matter. Some do... others don't and then go back to thinking men are just "pigs" whereas the pork slabs really lie in one's appearance in the mirror.
whatever. |
Why the negative attitude towards women?
Most fat guys I know rarely hit the gym so the whole Muscle factor isn't there.....second you need a lot of muscle to lose significantly more weight just by having the muscles in the first place...it's not like you burn an extra 250 calories a day for every 50 pounds you can bench...diet books will exaggerate how much having a pound or two of muscle will help you lose weight....like they do with everything.
If your "buff", then you can eat more calories than a twig(not much however)...if you only work out occasionally, the calorie benefits are are too meager to take notice. |
no negative attitude towards women at all. I only have a negative attitude toward the fat ones that are in denial (I'm healthy, I'm big boned. etc etc ) That said it's their choice, if they like themselves fat that's up to them, but please don't fucking then complain about how men are "shallow", and therefore unable to get over the fact your apperance is the "anti-Viagra".
The physiological fact is simple biology, if I state men are stronger than woman, that's not a negative attitude, that's fact.
Men will inherently have a higher basic internal metabolism because men's bodies have more muscle mass than women's (even the fat men).
The fat guys that don't hit the weights merely means it will take them longer to lose it.
having been buff a while back I can easily refute your last point.. once you're there, you can easily allow yourself some slipups, even a once a week eat whatever you want day.. the key is limiting those and staying on course. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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SEXERCISE!! Yea all ya gotta do is find some sicko desperate loser willing to shag a hefer.
Difficult choice, slim hot Korean girl, or the Back packin, Birkenstock wearing hefer.
Difficult choice that one. NOT! |
I find your comments offensive. If you have nothing contribute, don't post. |
Agreed- this guy really ought to keep his opinions to himself.
There is a kernel of truth behind his immense ignorance though, and that is how healthy sex is, for weight loss as well as physical and mental health in general. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Hey I may be a fool and a tool (very poetic that), BUT
at least I've had the self discipline to eat well and exercise. Never been overweight in my life, and although I don't have a lot of dignity (I am in Korea after all), I've never engaged in sexercise with a fatty.
Anyway all this advise business is all bollocks, the human body is naturally lean. Do you see fat people in the Amazon or the New Guines Highlands, NO! It's really a very simple formula that doesn't require any effort.
1. Be active, it's a natural state for people, look at kids,-running around all the time.
2. Be like a tribesman , prepare your OWN food, (can't hunt it) buying eat, cooking it, cleaning up after burns calories. Ordering at Mickey D's burns zero.
So go ahead call me a tool fool, oh no musn't offend the overweight person who is overweight due to laziness, lack of discipline, and downright stupidity.
You may not like hearing this but the key to weight loss is not pills, but becoming more disciplined and smarter.
What's there to respect about an undisciplined, glutonous person.
Guess what? People don't respect fat people, the only difference is I say so.
Why are you people wanting to lose weight because you know being overweight is undersirable.
Just like dope heads, and pedos give whiteys a bad rap, in Korea so do fat people.
Your lettin the team down, sounds mean but you should do your weight losing BEFORE coming to Korea. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Hey I may be a fool and a tool (very poetic that), BUT
at least I've had the self discipline to eat well and exercise. Never been overweight in my life, and although I don't have a lot of dignity (I am in Korea after all), I've never engaged in sexercise with a fatty.
Anyway all this advise business is all bollocks, the human body is naturally lean. Do you see fat people in the Amazon or the New Guines Highlands, NO! It's really a very simple formula that doesn't require any effort.
1. Be active, it's a natural state for people, look at kids,-running around all the time.
2. Be like a tribesman , prepare your OWN food, (can't hunt it) buying eat, cooking it, cleaning up after burns calories. Ordering at Mickey D's burns zero.
So go ahead call me a tool fool, oh no musn't offend the overweight person who is overweight due to laziness, lack of discipline, and downright stupidity.
You may not like hearing this but the key to weight loss is not pills, but becoming more disciplined and smarter.
What's there to respect about an undisciplined, glutonous person.
Guess what? People don't respect fat people, the only difference is I say so.
Why are you people wanting to lose weight because you know being overweight is undersirable.
Just like dope heads, and pedos give whiteys a bad rap, in Korea so do fat people.
Your lettin the team down, sounds mean but you should do your weight losing BEFORE coming to Korea. |
What about stupid people, ugly people, insensitive people, racist people, insincere people, dishonest people, are they more desirable than fat people?
I think there are worse things to be than overweight just personally. |
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