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yomuthabyotch

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Hell, Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
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Hey... wait a minute. Are you gyopo? I'm losing track of who the gyopos are in this thread.
DISCLAIMER: I AM A NICE GYOPO! PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A GYOPO-BASHING THREAD.  |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I've hung out with a few gyoppos here ( not one myself) and they seem to get either the best or the worst of the Korean experience- never an in between. If you speak good Korean, you'll probably get some fantastic opportunities thrown your way, but if not you might get into some wierd situations.
I know of one guy who got drafted and because his Korean was so bad, they made him pick garbage on the side of the road for his two and a half year term. |
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Vikini
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:39 am Post subject: |
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I've yet to meet a fellow gyopo that's not trying to act so cool All the gyopo friends of mine have that "gangsta" attitude going on, acting like they're all that. I've stopped hanging out with them altogether because it's really that unbearable. But I haven't closed doors to other gyopos. I'm actually looking forward to meeting any gyopo that has an amiable personality.
I think "gyopo" refers to a person of Korean decent living out of korea. But I've also heard that it actually only applies to people who were BORN in korea and moved elsewhere. I'm not sure. But anyhow, I do prefer being labelled as Canadian, because essentially, that's what I am. Made in Canada. At least twice, I got bittched at by cab drivers because I didn't speak perfect Korean. I rebutted and said that I was born in Canada, but their reply was, "No, you're Korean. A Korean person should be able to speak Korean".
I've also hung out with the natives before, and although they are very nice and welcoming, but the language barrier gets to me. I know a moderate amount of Korean, but not enough to be myself. So unless you know perfect Korean, I suggest you go another way. I've since hung out with only other foreigners. I feel, if anywhere, I belong with them. Occasionally I get the waegook who greets everyone else with hi and me, "anyonghaseyo", but I just tell them I'm Canadian. If that doesn't work, I tell them I'm (insert other Asian country here)-Canadian.  |
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gyopoboy
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: |
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i just want to say...
coming to korea was the best decision i ever made... i've been here for a year and half... going on two, now...
and i've had and am still having a freakin' blast.....
my 2 cents....
any kangnam gyopos wanna hang? |
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yomuthabyotch

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Hell, Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I also don't get the whole gangsta thing--but thinking about that brings up an interesting question: Am I then whitewashed?? A serious cultural dilemma arises from that question....
I think we gyopos have been deprived of our cultural identity; I don't know about other countries, but living in America or Canada, we either have to act black or act white to 'fit in' (grossly generalizing of course). But we certainly can't act Korean, cuz, hell, we're not even really Korean either! We're like floating in some kinda freakin' limbo and do you know how frustrating that is??
And that is why I want to live in Korea. To be amongst REAL Koreans, and not some strangers wearing yellow masks. Maybe then I'll truly feel like I belong. |
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Vikini
Joined: 04 Dec 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:54 am Post subject: |
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| yomuthabyotch wrote: |
And that is why I want to live in Korea. To be amongst REAL Koreans, and not some strangers wearing yellow masks. Maybe then I'll truly feel like I belong. |
As I said before, you won't feel like you belong unless you have the korean lingo. I sure don't, even though my Korean is considered impeccable back home, for a canadian-born, that is. I haven't felt the slightest hint of belonging until I hung out with foreigners, and even then, I still feel a bit out of place. You just don't know where you belong in Korea. And there are many gyopos out there I'm sure that would second that.
I don't think one of your goals here should be to belong somewhere. If by chance, you find your perfect group, GREAT! If not, just do what you gotta do, and hang with whoever you feel is the most fun, and then leave. |
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DrewAgain
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Vikini wrote: |
| I've also hung out with the natives before, and although they are very nice and welcoming, but the language barrier gets to me. I know a moderate amount of Korean, but not enough to be myself. So unless you know perfect Korean, I suggest you go another way. |
That's not very re-assuring. I can understand everyday Korean but can't speak it, at least not well. But it was my intention to befriend the natives. Could someone like myself still have a good time by spending the majority of my days with them?
I'd like to hear how the language barrier got to you. Was it that you couldn't understand their jokes? Was it that they didn't include you in conversation? Did they remain patient and welcoming as the weeks went by? |
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yomuthabyotch

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Hell, Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| My experience with the 'natives' is limited to a tourist experience, and whenever I opened my mouth, they knew I was a gyopo but I didn't get any out-of-the-ordinary reactions from them--good or bad. Then again, it'd probably be a whole different story if my encounters were on an daily basis. However, I think it'd be easy for me to pick the language back up, so I'm not worried about a language barrier. Like I've mentioned before, I consider myself 70% (sorry, that number keeps varying from post to post!) fluent, so with time, the 30% gap will fill itself. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: thekimchipot.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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I've met some decent gyopos and some complete knobs during my time here. I don't know why but i have yet to meet a gyopo from west coast America that i like.
Cali Gyopo: "Yo dawg we's all be bouncin' to Ap-gu later"
Sparkx: "You're an idiot"
Cali Gyopo: "uhhhh.....word!"
Met a few gyopos from Northern States and Canada who were really cool though |
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dnamkung
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Location: Victoria British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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yo- back from thailand
yeah i thought i was 70% until i came here and realized how poor my korean actually was. the thing is, probably like most of you, i never really learned grammar, structure, or proper spelling.
I took a korean class when i got here and i realized that a lot of things are spelt different than the way you say them. hahaa.. and furthermore, in some cases, i didn't even pronounce the words correctly in the first place i.e.: �Ź�... used to think it was �ɹ� hahah
i'd recommend you to take a class, normal everyday practicing with locals only takes you so far.
As for the wangsters, korea has turned into one of the biggest wangster joints i've ever seen. You go to a club like NB and everyone is dressed like they are in a Chingy video. I love hiphop myself, but com'on. Some of the guys take it too far, only a few can somewhat pull it off.
Speaking of gyopos, someone oughta make a decent gyopo site in korea..
-Dave |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's interesting that even on this thread, the gyopos or mixed Koreans are easily dicernable by their language and typing.
Lot's of "yo"s and "y'all"s and "peepz"....
Just wondering OP...what's with your nick?
"yomuthabyotch"...hmmm....interesting.
Do Koreans in America feel they are on par with the blacks, and therefore entitled to borrow so heavily from their hard-earned culture? I would say the Chinese and Japanese have had a harder run of it in America....do they also mimic black culture so freely?
The gyopos that I have met were older, more academic types in my uni gig, so I have good experiences. I say what I do about the borrowing of black culture because of this place and other forums that Koreans using English frequent.
Soompi is just a laugh....reads like a black panther meeting. Saramnet was hilarious...I was even told that one person would "bust a cap in my A__" after asking they crowd why they speak the way they do.  |
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dnamkung
Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Location: Victoria British Columbia
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yaya:
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Well, I respect your opinion but gyopos to me were best avoided like HIV. Many of them had a serious chip on their shoulder and such, and of course, wyldebeast looking mutant excuses for Korean-American women come to Korea and STILL think they are all that, when they're lucky they aren't herded into an animal farm.
I reiterate that regular Koreans are the best way to go. Sure, I did have some gyopo friends but to have too many of them would've spoiled the experience. Plus, gyopos can't give you the connections that natives can sometimes. |
hmm.. avoid gyopos like the plague.. that sounds.. almost prejudiced...
maybe i misunderstood your quote.
gyopos can't give you connections that natives can sometimes....
that kind of sounds like we, gyopos, and koreans, are to be used at means to ends, rather than ends in themselves.
Do you avoid teachers as well? if so, then i guess i can understand your mentality. If not, i'm confused. |
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yomuthabyotch

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Hell, Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
Just wondering OP...what's with your nick?
"yomuthabyotch"...hmmm....interesting. |
NICE! Somebody pointed it out!
That's me mocking the whole Asian gangsta phenomenon. Plus, it sounds funny, yo.
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Do Koreans in America feel they are on par with the blacks, and therefore entitled to borrow so heavily from their hard-earned culture? I would say the Chinese and Japanese have had a harder run of it in America....do they also mimic black culture so freely?
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It's cuz urban American hiphop culture is the new machismo. A new generation of suburban youth, both Asian AND white, trying to find a medium to raise their self-esteem while hiding their trite insecurities....  |
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Yaya

Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| gyopoboy wrote: |
i just want to say...
coming to korea was the best decision i ever made... i've been here for a year and half... going on two, now...
and i've had and am still having a freakin' blast.....
my 2 cents....
any kangnam gyopos wanna hang? |
Korea was great my first few years there, then I started to think about my future (I'm 34). I moved to LA after spending nine years in Seoul, but I'm thinking of going back this year again, this time for good.
It's a good bet that most foreign passport holders, ethnically Korean or not, do not want to teach at hakwons for life. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| It's cuz urban American hiphop culture is the new machismo. A new generation of suburban youth, both Asian AND white, trying to find a medium to raise their self-esteem while hiding their trite insecurities.... |
I'd say that is pretty spot on.
My problem is I'm totally in love with RnB and have been for ages, but I'm completely uninterested in pretending to talk like someone else in order to be someone elses idea of what cool is. I can't think of anything more ridiculous, and, frankly, uncool ... |
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