|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
 |
|
| merlyn wrote: |
| Speaking of ignoring. Yesterday I went to my neighboring dry cleaner. I usually go there and the woman is quite fast, and nice, although she clearly ripped me off the first time I went. But anyways, yesterday I walked into the small shop and she wasn't there, or at least I couldn't see her. However, the back door leading to her small apt. was slid half open. An adjossi was cooking something about 8 feet away on his frying pan. I said "Hello". There was no response and he continued cooking. I said "Anihasyeo". He muttered to himself and continued cooking. I again said "Hello", and he refused to acknowledge my presence. So I just stood there with my bag of clothes for another 2 minutes. Maybe, he was busy. Still no answer, despite the fact I continued to make rustling noises to remind him there was someone waiting. Then I hear someone waking up in the same room, probably the ajumma, and he did not even mention I was there. So I said, screw this, and went to the next place down the street. They would have made about 20 000 won for all the clothes I was bringing. I'm sure the first "Hello" set this guy in motion. |
This is one of the beauties of living here. You have so many options of one thng, if there is 1 dry-cleaning place there are bound to be 5 within 2 minutes walk.
If i recieve bad service(fif I'm a foreigner or not - bad service is bad service) I just go to the next place and do it there.
I agree with voting with your feet, because most people are more than happy to do a good job for you if you are polite and friendly. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Could he be deaf? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Eamo wrote: |
Thing is.....Can you remember the time those two girls got run over by the US tank? That was a scary month. It was the only time in Korea I heard random groups of guys mutter, "Miguk chiro!" as I was walking past them (of course the fact that I'm actually Irish, not American, was funny).
Point is, that anti-foreigner phase passed. It became all rosey in the garden again.
|
But this is essentially the crux of my argument. These days you won't see the gnashing of teeth directed towards American Military personnel like when the incident first occurred. If there was a well known website designed to debase the military, my guess would be that their daily hit count would be close to zero. Does that mean that the issue has been resolved and forgotten about? No fricken way. It's simply been relegated to that special little place in the minds of millions of Koreans which floats to the surface when certain key words are mentioned.
How about that gay little Ohno thing. What was that like 2 years ago? Who remembers reading that recent story about the Korean golfer mentioning Ohno in a press conference and the media blowing a fuse over it and labeling her a traitor? She made a comment along the lines of "Wow that was so long ago that I thought Koreans had forgotten about it."
Some of you people really take for granted Koreans ability to hold a grudge over something seemingly inconsequential.
The difference here is that there is an obvious agenda by these clowns at SBS. They took an isolated story and universalized it to encompass 95% of all foreigners working in Korea. What if they decide to push the envelope further to really twist the knife? Lets say their next story is about foreign teachers physically abusing innocent little korean children in the classroom?
Sorry people but by sitting back all complacent saying, "meh, it'll blow over eventually" you are giving these reporters carte blanche to create any brand of fiction they please. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
|
| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
to dispel these stereotypes requires a real effort in the media, and has to be taken seriously.
|
If you're trying to get the media to stop talking about a story, the last thing you should do is use the media to make a counter-attack. That just keeps the original story alive in the media.
It might work in the case where one guy has been accused of something by a newspaper, and he goes to the paper and asks to write an op-ed telling his side of a rather simple story, using verifiable evidence. No, I couldn't have attended that NAMBLA meeting in New York, because I was in Chicago at the time, check my travel reciepts.
But in this case, the accusation is against an entire group of people, about whom it is very difficult to prove anything. Sure, you can go on TV and say I'm a foreigner and I don't sell drugs to kids. But what does that prove? Not much. For "balance", the reporter will probably dig up a few Koreans whose kids WERE sold drugs by a foreigner, plus rattle off some out-of-context stats about way-gooks convicted of drug offenses, then talk about how widespread drug abuse is in western countries. Which part of the show do you think Joe Blow Korean xenophobe is going to remember? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
One way is to fight fire with fire. They wanna slag on us. We slag on them. Attack!
| Quote: |
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: Two-timing, not for the faint hearted!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you a two-timer?
This could happen to you as a result of the stress induced planning and avoiding of the other woman. Ha ha!
Great story! |
McNasty
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200502/200502180032.html |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
riverboy
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Quote: |
How about that gay little Ohno thing. What was that like 2 years ago? Who remembers reading that recent story about the Korean golfer mentioning Ohno in a press conference and the media blowing a fuse over it and labeling her a traitor? She made a comment along the lines of "Wow that was so long ago that I thought Koreans had forgotten about it."
|
I'm still burning over the World Series Maple Leaf fiasco  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
Christina Kim Gets Rough Treatment From Reporters
SEOUL (Yonhap) -- The 20-year-old told Yonhap News Agency that her post-tournament press conference had left her drained after she fielded questions on her "Korean-ness" and other issues that at times bordered on hostile.
"There are times I go into press conferences in Korea, and I actually feel scared," she said. "You just don't know if some guy is going to get up and say something really hurtful. There were a few times there where I felt like I was going to burst into tears and just run out. It was really tough."
....Ohno took gold after South Korean skater Kim Dong-sung was disqualified for impeding the American. The decision prompted outrage in South Korea, with Ohno receiving death threats.
"I honestly had no idea I could cause such offense by saying Anton Ohno was cute," she said. "I mean it was such a long time ago. I always think it's better for people to try to put past grudges behind them."
"I really wasn't sure why I was being asked that," she said. "The KLPGA asked me to play, and I think it's an honor to be picked." A KLPGA official told Yonhap Monday that the association has no intention of withdrawing the invitation despite a number of complaints.
"She was selected by the KLPGA," marketing and communications manager Sam Gwak said. "She's the fifth-ranked Korean player this year.
"She has dual citizenship. Many people don't like her because she behaves so American, but we are not going to change our rules just because of some people's complaints."
Kim looked flustered at times during her press conference, while her mother stood to one side, visibly distressed, but kept her composure and refused to be drawn into further controversy.
Korea Times (November 2, 2004)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/sports/200411/kt2004110215513111630.htm
Ohno would rather be safe than sorry
Against a backdrop of Internet death threats and a Korean newspaper report calling him "the most-hated athlete in South Korea," U.S. short-track speedskater Apolo Anton Ohno has withdrawn from this month's World Cup event in Jeonju City. Apolo Anton Ohno and Dong-Sung Kim had a controversial 1,500-meter final at the 2002 Olympics.
Contributing: Vicki Michaelis, USA TODAY; Beau Dure and Bob Kimball, USATODAY.com
USA Today (November 18, 2003)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/winter/2003-11-18-ohno-korea-concerns_x.htm
Ohno! Apolo is coming to Jeonju!
Say Osama bin Laden. OK, that's three words for one big, bad guy. Now, say Apolo Anton Ohno. That's three words for dead man walking. At one Korean anti-Apolo site, his picture is placed right next to -- you guessed it -- Osama bin Laden's. Apolo stole the gold. Anton has a silly-looking beard. Ohno isn't exactly a name I would give my kids. But comparing him to Osama Bin Laden?
JoongAng Daily
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/05/200311052309278979900091009101.html |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:42 am Post subject: |
|
|
| eamo wrote: |
| That was a scary month. |
Oh, so true. Most Koreans are smart enough to know the whole thing is nonsense. If the subject ever comes up, I'll simply answer with the following rhetorical question, "How would you feel if the Japanese were saying the same lies about Koreans?" That should do the trick. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
"She has dual citizenship. Many people don't like her because she behaves so American, but we are not going to change our rules just because of some people's complaints."
It's the black-sheep effect that I was talking about.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=34011&start=60 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:52 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I think rabid korean nationalism is at its height now, and every little issue gets turned into a statement. I can't see the economy going much further than it has, and in about 10-15 years, there will be fewer crazy patriots warping society here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
"She has dual citizenship. Many people don't like her because she behaves so American, but we are not going to change our rules just because of some people's complaints."
It's the black-sheep effect that I was talking about.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=34011&start=60 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
