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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| mithridates wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy, a country that writes distorted textbooks tells just as much about its national character as any other, as long as you have other languages / textbooks from other countries to compare it to. |
They might help you understand national character, but they won't very often lead to the truth. Korean would be very useful (Hanja actually) for translating Korean statutes and other primary sources from the 1930's for example when talking about the Japanese liberation of Korea. Perhaps I should have mentioned that. Reading a Korean's interpretation of them wouldn't lead to the truth. For example, here it's often claimed that Koreans were forced to have Japanese names when in reality there were also laws preventing such a thing for a long time, and most Koreans were only to eager to to have one anyway.
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| You can't see it in this image but this jolly boy is carrying the complete works of Kim Ilsung. |
Not sure I have cottoned on to your analogy here Mith. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| mithridates wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy, a country that writes distorted textbooks tells just as much about its national character as any other, as long as you have other languages / textbooks from other countries to compare it to. |
They might help you understand national character, but they won't very often lead to the truth. Korean would be very useful (Hanja actually) for translating Korean statutes and other primary sources from the 1930's for example when talking about the Japanese liberation of Korea. Perhaps I should have mentioned that. Reading a Korean's interpretation of them wouldn't lead to the truth. For example, here it's often claimed that Koreans were forced to have Japanese names when in reality there were also laws preventing such a thing for a long time, and most Koreans were only to eager to to have one anyway. |
Western missionaries here in the 1950s will talk about young Koreans (girls in particular) having Japanese nicknames. I don't know whether these were their actual Japanese given-names (given during the imperial period) and they just kept using them in informal situations thereafter, or whether they were taken individually, just as Koreans today will say "You can call me Sarah (Park) -- that's my American name" or have "Peter Kim" printed on their business cards.
There is a difference between these two phenomena, and it is an important one. Whereas today "Sarah Park" and "Peter Kim" will have taken those names for the sake and ease of non-Korean speakers, and will tend to use those nicknames exclusively when dealing with foreigners, "Kioko" and "Midori" in the 1950s called themselves those names because ... not sure.... was it seen as cool? trendy? modern? Anyway, they used those names amongst themselves in Korean-only settings as well as when a foreigner was around, and not purely for the sake of wanting to seem "less foreign" to Westerner missionaries. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I am really sad to hear that. You are from a culture that invented the wonderful word of "interaction". Yet, you don't seem to realize that it is actually a two-way affair. |
Not sure what your point is. But there are billions of people in the world. If Koreans treat me like an alien monster, why should that inspire me to spend years studying Korea? I'm just going to finish my contract and move on to a country where I'm treated as a human being. I know how to choose my friends. |
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The Great Toad
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Pyongshin Sangja, or anyone else good at Korean - what do they mean, how do you say them? Also the only insult I know is "Baboo" But I think there is one that is like you are a "crazy dog" that is bad too.
Anyhow more insults would be helpful. I need to learn these. So I know when peole are not kind. How do you say write /them?
shipal waegooknom
doong duaegi
kojengi
Miguknom |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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shipal waegooknom =*beep* foreign bastard
doong duaegi =fat pig
kojengi =nose person (big nose)
Miguknom=American bastard
kaesekki= son of a female dog |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Freezer Burn wrote: |
I saw everyone just looking, no action..
There aren't too many hero's in Korea, you can be sure that in the west someone would risk their life to save his. |
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A blind man falls off the platform.
Today around 4 PM, at the #4 line's Sadang station platform, Mr Kim of age 67 who has visual dissability fell off on the rails.
Fortunatly he was recued right away by several passengers and public service agents nearby. Mr Kim was reported to only suffering from a dislocated shoulder.
Sorry, but I am sick and tired of some incomplete information and false impressions thrown thoughout this board.
Please learn some Korean. Read and look for some real news people! Stop making yourself sound stupid. |
Yeah, not all Koreans are a cowardly as that Daegu subway driver who locked all the passengers in his burning subway train so he could be the first to get out of the station with his own hide. |
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The Great Toad
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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| Tahnks I'll have to get some Korean students to say these out loud a few times so I can pick them up. Then if some calls me big nose I'll pinch my nose, make goose honking sounds, and flap circles around them. hmm wow those sound unkind- I knew the dog insult came in there somewhere- I guess Americans like dogs as they use it as a complement like "Sweet slam Dawg." Or, yo I be kickin it wit Snoop an da Dawg Pound." "I'm a bad as Dawg" |
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