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Prof 88
Joined: 03 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: Student comparison |
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| The students in Japan are a joy to teach when compared to those in Korea. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Student comparison |
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| Prof 88 wrote: |
| The students in Japan are a joy to teach when compared to those in Korea. |
wether you're in korea or japan, i think that depends on which school you're working at and their method of maintaining discipline etc.. (As well as your own ability of course). |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Rapier,
I agree you could work in a great school or schitty school in any of these countries.
In fact, I would probably say that the Chinese, Korean and Japanese are all very similar in terms of their attitudes towards learning and their perceptions of teacher-student relationships and how they behave in the classroom. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:28 am Post subject: |
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Rapier,
I could not agree more. |
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Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| I thought Japan was way too clean, like Disney World. The place and people were far to orderly; boy was I wrong in calling Koreans the "robots." Wasn't there for too long, so who am I to speak, but sure was happy to get back to Korea. It's real-er and gritty-er. I like that about Korea. From the replies in this thread, obviously a lot of folks don't. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| Gorgias wrote: |
| I thought Japan was way too clean, like Disney World. The place and people were far too orderly |
Damn, that must have been hell. |
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numazawa
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, he forgot "too damned comfortable and pleasant" too. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Gorgias wrote: |
| I thought Japan was way too clean, like Disney World. The place and people were far to orderly; boy was I wrong in calling Koreans the "robots." Wasn't there for too long, so who am I to speak, but sure was happy to get back to Korea. It's real-er and gritty-er. I like that about Korea. From the replies in this thread, obviously a lot of folks don't. |
If you admire the grittiness of Korea, do you also admire the consequences of that same grittiness? Do you enjoy endless discussions and debates on the merits of Korean culture? Do you admire the rough'n'tumble reality of a place where the things that you value are frequently questioned and criticised? Or would you prefer a forum where most share your values and the opposition remains silent?
When you ordered a meal in your own country, did you get a cowboy thrill from the tough, gritty reality of the waiter serving you the wrong meal? |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
My feeling is that Korea may be tough to get into, but it rewards those who stick it out and make an effort to a) learn the language 2) be patient with the people 3) understand them.
Japan has more mass appeal, but it is not necessarily more special. |
Japan seems to be a bit like the big, flashy department store that tries to cater for everyone - and is almost clever enough to pull off this trick.
Korea is a bit like the Mom'n'Pop store down the road where the owners are always bickering and giving the customers suspicious looks.
Guess who gets the money? |
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numazawa
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
Korea is a bit like the Mom'n'Pop store down the road where the owners are always bickering and giving the customers suspicious looks.
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Not to mention that loose floorboard near the door, where you almost break your ankle trying to step over the mangy dog/preschooler that happens to be gnawing on your other ankle. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Gorgias,
I could not agree more.
Japan is for people who want something completely different but don't want the sense of adventure and off-kilter-ness.
I've visited Japan four times and on each trip thought it too... quiet? machine-like? futuristic in a right-wing dystopic dreamland. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
Gorgias,
I could not agree more.
Japan is for people who want something completely different but don't want the sense of adventure and off-kilter-ness.
I've visited Japan four times and on each trip thought it too... quiet? machine-like? futuristic in a right-wing dystopic dreamland. |
So you don't think too highly of order and discipline? Fine.
*Collects 300+ crossword puzzles and word games for his next 12-month working vacation in Korea.* |
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Gorgias
Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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| It's just this, I feel free-er in Korea than I ever did back home. Is this the truth-- that's open to debate, there's little weed here, that's for sure. But in Korea I feel like I can more or less do what ever I fancy. I bought a motorcycle recently. At first I made the mistake of actually waiting in traffic at a red light. But a kindly gentleman was good enough to explain to me out the window of the car: 'just weave up through the traffic, don't wait in line.' I get a kick out it-- to a point. There is a difference between gritty and deadly. Anyway, each to their own. I like Korea. Some like Japan. Luckily there are both. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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the saint
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
Location: not there yet...
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Japan wins out hands down. Six years there and over two here so I do speak from experience.
Yes, with rent and utilities you can have a better lifestyle in Japan than you can in Korea with one exception: travel. Provided you're happy not to travel much, you can save a bucketload there too. Korea looks like an ashtray in comparison to Japan even in the urban sprawl.
What some people are complaining about in terms of too much order and cleanliness is a predisposition the Japanese have to being anal. Things must be done the way they must be done and there are no exceptions.
But, hey, that's a small price to pay for living in a place where everyone isn't trying to spit on you every day... |
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