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CALLING ALL CANADIANS!!! "Being Canadian in Korea."
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Don Gately



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Location: In a basement taking a severe beating

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just like to say "thank god" that someone finally started this thread. I mean, you hardly ever hear Canadians talking about what it's like to be Canadian. You pretty much have to hold them down and twist their arms to have them tell you what's great about Canada, how Canada is different from your country and how being Canadian informs their experiences in Korea.

Hell, a lot of the Canadians I've met I would have never known they were Canadian unless I'd really pinned them down on it. They're very understated and modest. It's not like they walk around with flags or anything.
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Bladewarrior



Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Currently back in Canada!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really Gately? You've found it difficult to find out whose Canadian? I guess for me, it's always just been one of the first questions I ask people, hoping to find another Canadian to relate to...

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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now,

I went to Oedo Island with my gf, and I wore my modest Canadian pin.

When the ferry driver saw the pin, he asked "Canada?" I said yep.

He started to cry! Then he related a story about his children going to Canada (from his hand gestures) and he cried some more. In front of the whole travel group of Koreans!

Wow. That's some love.

I asked my gf to translate, but she said that the southern Koreans speak a different dialect and she couldn't understand. Too bad. He shook my hand at the end of the day. Proud? Yes, I am Very Happy
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Don Gately



Joined: 20 Mar 2006
Location: In a basement taking a severe beating

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bladewarrior wrote:
Really Gately? You've found it difficult to find out whose Canadian?


No. Not really.
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Kimchi Cowboy



Joined: 17 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We, as Canadians, have very little sense of our own identity and our "place in the world". We define ourselves not by what we are, but instead, by what we are not.



Or so we would have everyone within earshot believe.





There's your chapter. Hell, that's your whole book.




(Edited 'cos of the wine.)


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neandergirl



Joined: 23 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four or five years ago while walking passed a department store in Daegu I was accosted by a group of Koreans yelling 'Yankee go home!'. Since then, when I'm with people I won't see again (like taxi drivers etc) I make a point of telling people (when asked) I'm American (I'm not) just because.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:
I'm from Toronto, but my parnts are from the Caribbean.


Your pants are from the Caribbean? Why does that matter? Smile
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Maserial



Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pak Yu Man wrote:
travel zen wrote:
I'm from Toronto, but my parnts are from the Caribbean.


Your pants are from the Caribbean? Why does that matter? Smile


Obviously, you've never worn a pair of Caribbean pants.
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darkhorse_NZ



Joined: 20 Feb 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coffeeman wrote:
I don't know if I made my main point clear, but here it is;
Around the world, Canadians are defined by what we're not - which is American. Ask a Korean or anyone else for that matter about Canada and you'll get the same old worn-out stereotypes, "Canada has great nature. Canadians are very polite..." Few people will come out with the truth, "I don't know very much about Canada.".

Canada suffers from an identity crisis the same way New Zealand does with Australia. I must confess that I know a lot more about Australia than I do about New Zealand. I hope the kiwis in this country can help me correct this problem. Maybe we should make some new sticky threads called Ask a Kiwi, Ask a Canadian, Ask an American...


yeh, NZ used to suffer terribly from an identity crisis in relation to Australia, but that has become less and less the case since NZ started to become a popular tourist destination from the early 90s on and specifically since the Lord of The Rings. Now, many overseas people know that there is a difference between NZ and Australia, no matter how subtle and Kiwis seem to pop up everywhere these days in Hollywood which adds to North Americans' and the world's familiarity with us.

Though we still need to change the flag!

I remember not more than 10 years ago, it was common to see world maps without NZ on them. Not official ones mind you but the stylised ones various organisations use.

But, we're getting over that now, I'm not the sort to get terribly offended if someone mistakes me for an Aussie, I just correct them and that's that.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkhorse_NZ wrote:

yeh, NZ used to suffer terribly from an identity crisis in relation to Australia, but that has become less and less the case since NZ started to become a popular tourist destination from the early 90s on and specifically since the Lord of The Rings. Now, many overseas people know that there is a difference between NZ and Australia, no matter how subtle and Kiwis seem to pop up everywhere these days in Hollywood which adds to North Americans' and the world's familiarity with us.

Though we still need to change the flag!

I remember not more than 10 years ago, it was common to see world maps without NZ on them. Not official ones mind you but the stylised ones various organisations use.

But, we're getting over that now, I'm not the sort to get terribly offended if someone mistakes me for an Aussie, I just correct them and that's that.


You should download "Flight of the Conchords". Makes me wish I were one of you.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Canadians are to people of other English-speaking countries what Newfoundlanders are to the rest of Canada.

And you can quote me on that.

Sparkles*_*


It's true sometimes. I mention my Newfiehood and sometimes people, only other Canadians and occasionally Americans... you know, have a (mildly?) condesecending reaction, except when some Americans ask me what part of Europe it's in.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dugsby wrote:
she touts Strange Brew as the greatest movie ever

That's cuz it is, eh?

Quote:
I do not like Canada they started the war in the gulf and before that attacked the World Trade Center Further they attacked South park Colorado. They are a neocommi welfare state. I think they have weak drug laws too so it all a bunch of hippies. Also, I went to the Rocky Mt Tavern and it was very loud and crowded I had to bump into a lot of them hockey players- to get to the bathroom- but they were nice and did not get mad. Still I think some of them need to stop green house growing all that pot and try to grow mushrooms or beats instead then at least they would not be dopes.

Damn! Caught!
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Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Canada's Anti-American Culture! Reply with quote

You can often tell who is a Canadian by who is bashing America. Many Canadians love to bash America. Bashing America is part of the mainstream culture in Canada. So many Canadians get brainwashed by the mainstream anti-American culture of Canada and so become full-time America bashers. It's the truth.

If you ever spend much time with Canadians, particularly if you have gone up and lived among them in their country, you will discover a people that have an identity crisis. They are wantabee Brits and will praise England ("London is the greatest city in the world," etc.). After all, they still have the Queen of England as their head-of-state (and whom still has legal power). One would think that the head-of-state of Canada would at least be a Canadian. And they are haters of America and want everyone to know that they are not American. In their attempt to prove that they are not American they will bash America. But in reality Canadians are so much more similiar to Americans then they are to Brits.

It is this identity crisis of being a wantabee Brit and wanting to prove that they are not American that is the Canadian national character. The Canadian mainstream culture of being anti-America is quite sad. It really is. You might find a Vietnamese guy whose brother got killed by the American military during the Vietnam War, and that guy will say: "I have no hatred toward the US or the American people." And yet you will find Canadians who never suffered a single harm from America and yet who will have such venom of hatred toward America that it boggles the mind as to why this Canadian hates America so much. I speak the truth.

Cool
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off...good luck with the book project.

As for being a Canadian in Korea....it does open your eyes about many things. You are confronted with being a visible minority (often for the first time if you are white for example) and with living in a mono-ethnical society.

Living here opens your eyes to how Canada is perceived for sure but also about the big gap between what people in Canada project (open to differences for example) and what they are when confronted with the reality of differences in a society that is not geared in their favor...now thats an interesting discovery and a real eye-opener....
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: CALLING ALL CANADIANS!!! "Being Canadian in Korea.& Reply with quote

Bladewarrior wrote:
Hey guys. I'm currently writing a book on my first year and a half here in Korea, and I'm writing a chapter on being Canadian in Korea. Id like to here how things are for you other Canadians, but not only what it's like for you as a Canadian, but also as a White Canadian, Black Canadian, Japanese Canadian, etc. Do you feel that you are treated differently? Is it in a good way, or a bad way? I have my experiences of course, but I'll wait a little bit before sharing. So, would you mind helping me out? I'd really appreciate it! Have a great day!


wait, I thought korea and canada were the same country. what gives?
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