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rapier · Joined: 16 Feb 2003

A very succinct summary of modern popular western thought on the matter, Satori. And entirely predictable for anyone born in the past 30-40 years...

I do think you overstate the Christian focus on virginity. i know plenty, in fact most christians who, while dissaproving of sex before marriage, certainly won't disown their kids for indulging. And they don't withold advice or education either. not sure your religious experience, but probably catholicism is the most extreme example you could've given- and remember this is regarded as a deviant branch of false doctrine by mainstream protestant christianity. (Oh and efltrainer don't even think about it.)

The mainstream idea of sex is as a wonderful, not evil thing- to be reserved for married and committed people, rather than handed out to a hundred or more different people indiscriminately. While before marriage it is wrong, it is hardly a heinous crime, and the least of the sins, perhaps. (where did I hear that?). The focus is on forgiveness rather than condemnation. i think you exxagerate any percieved negativity in Christianity to make your hedonistic viewpoint seem more attractive.

what can i say? waiting is a sign of strength, of patience, of respect, of commitment. It is planning ahead, it is unselfish: it is romantic, it is responsible.

if your world view sees people as animals, frogs that need to fertilise maximum spawn while the moon is full, then the mad rush to procreate before you die makes sense. if you see man as existing spiritually as well as physically, then a whole different set of laws become involved.

The modern philosophy is that humans are animals, no more no less, evolved from apes: there is no right or wrong and morality is just a relative concept. if you really believe this, then you are a programmed organism, and your goal in life is probably to fertilise as many females as possible, eliminate all male rivals, before dying like a male black widow, the job done.. Love wouldn't exist, guilt wouldn't exist. In your world, you'd look up to Kim Jong Il and his harems, as a model of dominant alpha-malehood, and we are reduced to being advanced chimpanzees on heat.

AbbeFaria · Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: Gangnam

Satori · Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all

But I'll say the guy who wrote the article also did seem a bit off, a bit far to the other extreme.

Christians always characterise people like me a "hedonistic" and "promiscuous", which is absurd. I'm not promoting random casual sex with a new girl every weekend. I'm promoting having a reasonable variaety of partners in your life before you tie the knot. Putting numbers on it is a bit riduculous but lets say I'm talking about say 20 to 30 partners, not this 100 figure which christians often throw around in order to falsely chracterise non christians are promusicuous sluts.