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To the students I'm about to fail (rant)
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Golden Lama



Joined: 08 Jan 2006
Location: Left-of-Centre of the Universe

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2 Cents/Subjective Opinion:

1) Take attendance at the end of the class.

2) Give a pop quiz EVERY single class just before attendance is taken. Take the material for the entire exam from those quizzes and balance their grade 50/50, i.e. 50 for all the quizzes and 50 for the exam for the total exam mark out of 100. Each quiz should be based on the material for that class. A test that can be done in five minutes is more than adequate to drive the point home.

3A) Do not teach the students who are unteachable. Make a small section of the students who listen in a corner near the front and teach to them alone. The students in the back can choose to move closer and pay attention or fail miserably.

3B)That means for the quizzes only those who have been participating in the class get to write. Do whatever is necessary to limit the cheating; sit them on the floor, make them sit back to back, put everything but their pencil at the front of the room. Any hint of cheating should result in a zero. If necessary, schedule each student for individual test times when they will be alone in the room/your office during your scheduled duty hours.

4) Never smile before Novemember.

I really think this could turn into an excellent support group for whining about our students. Everybody seems to have an elloquent ability with the lost art of the rant; keep up the articularity.

Every person has their own personality and every class has their particular group mentality. The class of the OP's group mentality would get the absolute worst of what I have to offer as a jail warden. I hope that the administration is supportive and that they'll see any steps you take to drop the hammer on these characters as an attempt to improve the quality of the English class.

Best of luck.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaperTiger wrote:
Can you really fail people in uni classes? I got the impression from other threads that most institutions were too chicken to fail someone over something as trivial as their performance in an English class. By the sound of it, most Korean universities have less integrity than your average haggie.

How does that work? Seriously...are unis and public school the same in that regard to hagwon policies? Always wondered.


We can at our uni. I'm giving a couple of Fs in one of my class.
Wed night. Yet again it happens. Exam starts at 6:00. Around 6:45 these two girls show up late and I didn't have a clue who they were.

So the other 'prof' next door comes over for a visit and right in front of us.....you guess it......here is comes.....they start talking in Korean and pointing at each other's exams. WTF?

They are the only two students in class, there are two 'profs' there watching them and they cheat.

So I move one to the other side of the room and they still carry on like that. I let them finish and I almost felt like ripping up their exams in their face.

I guess they really don't have a clue what cheating is. lol.

Cheat sheets are bad. Talking is ok.

TGIF.
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Paji eh Wong



Joined: 03 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Paji eh Wong wrote:
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I know you�re not the brightest crayons in the box. There�s a reason you�re here at a technical college, learning make-up artistry or chair design.


The rate of tertiary school grads back home must be, what, 30%? What's it like here? 75%? Imagine how much dead wood you're going to catch at the bottom end schools around here. Add to that that you're teaching manditory classes and you have a recipe for self immolation.


I love you for saying that.


Any time darling.

I went to nationmaster.com to follow that up. Suspiciously, the ROK is missing in a lot of educational statistical catagories over there. Turns out that Canada is #1 with a bullet when it comes to tertiaty attainment with 42%.
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