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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one source for the Nike story:

Just do drugs
What CTV's special Ben Johnson: Drugs And The Quest For Gold uncovered about Nike's role in steroid use among athletes in the late 70s and 80s shouldn't come as a total shock. According to the doc, Nike's Athletics West club led seminars on how steroids worked and how to avoid tests. Winning means shoe sales, after all. Indeed, Nike annual reports to shareholders have boasted that soon after Athletics West's debut, "American athletes surged back to prominence. The resulting credibility for the young brand solidified Nike's reputation as 'The Running Company. '"

http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2004-07-15/news_upfront_p.html
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
Wishmaster wrote:
Ha-Ha. England...former empire and slave to the current one.


Rule Britania!
Britannia rule the waves.
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.


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By the way, the US wasn't defeated...it was a "strategic withdrawal". Enjoy.


the United States and South Vietnam were unable to defeat the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces. North Vietnamese troops marched into Saigon on Apr. 30, 1975. More than 50,000 US troops were killed. That's defeat my friend. Americans seem to have very short memories - most probably thanks to indoctrination by US state television, too much junk food and too much shlte telly like the Simpsons and Frasier - camp b0ll0cks. Granted the US is an economic superpower, what with Ford, Kodak, Microsoft and other excellent contributions to wider humanity and it is potentially the mightiest superpower that ever existed. But 'superpower' implies a country that doesn't lose wars it doesn't even need to fight to crappy little countries, not having a president who's a complete buffoon, not staging moon landings, and not electing governments that destroy the WTC and kill 3000 of its own people in order to create a false climate of fear and terrorism. All that said, the US is my favorite holiday destination and a country I look up to in many ways. America empowers individual excellence and that goes down very well with me.





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But let's be honest for a second. When an Englishman or Canadian, for instance, goes to Korea, it is usually for an economic opportunity. Your socialist system of government has pretty much made you guys economic refugees.


I couldn't give two hoots about Canada, but Britain does not have a socialist-style government. The Margaret Thatcher administration was one of the most Right Wing governments ever seen in a civilized country. We WON a war against a fascist Argentinian regime as well. Argentina is a big country in South America, folks. The present-day government is solidly centrist. Low interest rates and low unemployment is not generally indicative of a socialist style government. It's a capitalist democracy, but of course not unregulated. That's another sore point I have about you Yankydoodledandies - the dreamy belief in small government. Total twits. We even invented Capitalism. Don't give me the usual twaddle about how the bloody Greeks and Romans invented Capitalism. Capitalism proper began with the Industrial Revolution in Manchester, Liverpool and London.

And I suggest that Americans, Canadians and Brits alike come to Korea for the same motivations....easy money in my case, profiting from demand for my country's language. Had English culture and language not spread to all 4 corners of the globe, I wouldn't be able to do it. And neither would any of us. Just be jolly thankful for the opportunities being a descendant of Mother England brings.



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English culture is fine, but what's your beef with the Spanish and Portuguese? I love both countries. And Latino culture is as good as any.


I've no beef with Spanish and Portuguese culture at all. They've much to offer. But the descendants of Iberian culture and language are poor countries (that's another problem with the US - if it were really such a superpower, why bother crushing socialist uprisings in insignificant little Central American countries?) , whereas the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and present-day Britain have it pretty good.



Like most people you are not able to see the big picture. What was the US goal in Viet Nam? To make sure South Viet Nam didnt go commie? Maybe peripherally. To show the communist block US willingness to fight and to show potentially communist nations that it wasnt worth it to go commie? Bingo. Thailand. Indonesia. Malaysia. Singapore. Not one went commie after Vietnam. The US strategy was a low intensity warfare to avoid dragging china and Russia in. ( they still came in any way). Viet Nam was just a battle in the greater cold war.

As for The Falkland War, Britain would have had a very tough go at it without US satellite intelligence. Dont compare some argentine sheepherders to the viet namese.

I wont even touch the "staging of moon landings" and the World Trade Center. I hope you really dont believe that.

As for us being grateful to Britain for our jobs as English teachers? Up until recently French was the dominant world language. Why did it change to English? Not because people around the world want to do business with England. Its all about doing business with USA( Combined with the export of American movies, TV and music.)
In korea more specifically- who has been guarding the border with the North the last 50 years? This has allowed the peace needed for south korea to get rich so its citizens can afford to pay our salaries as teachers.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The statement "You have to win wars to be a superpower" is just nonsense made up out of thin air by some ignorant yob. Look up mirriam webster, there is nothing in the definition of super power that makes winning wars a requirement. As for the rest of your garbled poppycock, you are truly a buffoon.

Staged the moon landing? Now we know you're just nuts. That makes everything a lot clearer, thanks...
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pegpig



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not start another thread:

America lost the Vietnam war.

America won the Vietnam war.

The Vietnam war was a tie.

I'm sure it'll be the first thread on America's involvement in the Vietnam War. Rolling Eyes

What the heck was this thread about again?
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WorldWide



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

america definately lost in Vietnam. The objective of keeping the commies away failed. The americans cut and run, then the commies took over the government. 58,191 americans dead, millions of Vietnamese, Cambodian, Lao and even 5000 Koreans dead. It was an all out failure and military loss.

Not too different from the Korean war where the objective was not completed.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
The statement "You have to win wars to be a superpower" is just nonsense made up out of thin air by some ignorant yob. Look up mirriam webster, there is nothing in the definition of super power that makes winning wars a requirement.


Have any of them got their gums around your plums yet?

Satori, it's called having an opinion. You do know what one of those is, right? Obviously not, as everything one says must conform with defintions apparently. I'll give you an example of an opinion: Satori is a twit, at kindest. Go find some verifiable research about that! New Zealand absolutely sucks, there's another. I'm not interested in definitions from Mary Anne Webster's fookin dictionary or links. I like opinions, rants, perspectives, propaganda.

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Staged the moon landing? Now we know you're just nuts. That makes everything a lot clearer, thanks...


The moon landing definitely was staged in my opinion, having looked at the matter in some detail. If it wasn't, why did they fake a shot of the Earth, saying they were 130,000 miles out, when in actual fact they were 100 miles above the Earth's surface and used trickery (ingenius trickery, it has to be said) to make a shot of Earth at a distance? Don't even know what I'm talking about? Course you don't. Everything is exactly the way it seems always and we should never question the integrity of American administrations, otherwise you've just watched too much X Files. Sad people.

I've no problem with being called nuts. People thought Socrates and Copernicus were nuts and they went on to do rather well. Very Happy
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pegpig



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
The moon landing definitely was staged in my opinion, having looked at the matter in some detail........I've no problem with being called nuts. People thought Socrates and Copernicus were nuts and they went on to do rather well. Very Happy


Laughing Okay. You're nuts. Happy? Maybe someday they'll be able to find a way to land on the moon. Next you'll be telling us the earth isn't flat.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
Satori, it's called having an opinion.

Congratulations on having an opinion. I'm sure mummy dearest is very proud. Just don't be confused into thinking all opinions are equal, or that yours are glorious simply because they were emitted from your effete pommy colon. The best opinions are highly informed, yours are consistantly wrong.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
SPINOZA wrote:
Satori, it's called having an opinion.

Congratulations on having an opinion. I'm sure mummy dearest is very proud. Just don't be confused into thinking all opinions are equal, or that yours are glorious simply because they were emitted from your effete pommy colon. The best opinions are highly informed, yours are consistantly wrong.


It's my opinion that you are banned from working in Korea ever again for basically being a fooking pervert. How highly informed is that? Why do even post if you're not even in Korea, you weirdo? I suspect you wish you were still here, saving yourself a few notes effortlessly, as opposed to struggling away on 250,000 yen a month (peanuts) and sat in your tiny shoebox playing with yourself.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
Satori wrote:
SPINOZA wrote:
Satori, it's called having an opinion.

Congratulations on having an opinion. I'm sure mummy dearest is very proud. Just don't be confused into thinking all opinions are equal, or that yours are glorious simply because they were emitted from your effete pommy colon. The best opinions are highly informed, yours are consistantly wrong.


It's my opinion that you are banned from working in Korea ever again for basically being a fooking pervert. How highly informed is that?

Completely uninformed you ponce.
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Why do even post if you're not even in Korea, you weirdo? I suspect you wish you were still here, saving yourself a few notes effortlessly, as opposed to struggling away on 250,000 yen a month (peanuts) and sat in your tiny shoebox playing with yourself.

Again, wrong as you can be.

You're now just a tiny little bit less stupid than you were before. So thank me, it's the least you can do...
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