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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| So did IGTG admit he was wrong regarding his allegation that the PM editor was a cousin of the Homeland security guy? |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| When is the next Freemason meeting, MMT? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| When is the next Freemason meeting, MMT? |
I was a high ranking mason until I discovered their plan to take over the world. I couldn't agree. So I quit. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I thought the following summed up the conspiracy quite nicely.
There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons.
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I've been getting a lot of email lately from people sending me this stupid 9/11 conspiracy video called "Loose Change." I've tried to ignore it for months now, but you morons keep forwarding it to me, and I keep having to add more email addresses to my spam filter. The ironic part is that I'm a huge conspiracy nut, and even I can't stomach this bullshit. For example, I believe that there is a small, reptile-like creature called Chupacabra that sucks the blood of goats in Mexico. Area 51? Hell yes. Roswell? Pass me the Kool-Aid. But "Loose Change" elevates bullshit to an artform. Watching this video is like being bukakked with stupid.
Unlike others who debunk 9/11 conspiracy theories, or "cons" for short, I'm not going to bother with going through intricate point-by-point rebuttals, or pointing out the hundreds of factual inaccuracies and outright lies in this "documentary," because I don't need to. In fact, I can debunk the entire story with one simple observation:
The fact that this man is alive...
...is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit.
Here's why:
1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.
2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?
Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your ass that the government wouldn't let a couple of pecker-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet. I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's shit-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation?
I win. There is no conspiracy. Eat my shit, losers.
The other type of 9/11 conspiracy email you dipshits keep sending is the $20 dollar WTC conspiracy. Glenn Beck--a loud-mouthed, fat-faced asshole on CNN--has a copy of it on his website:
The new U.S. $20 dollar bill contains hidden pictures of the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks!
Yes! see for yourself...
1st) FOLD A NEW $20 BILL THIS WAY:
2nd) CONTINUE TO FOLD THIS WAY
Compare your fold precisely to this picture.
3rd) FOLD THE RIGHT SIDE UNDER,
exactly as you folded the left side.
You'll immediately see the Pentagon ablaze! (red circle)
4th) NOW FLIP IT OVER AND SEE OTHER SIDE
The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center are hit and smoking.
What are the odds that a simple geometric folding of the $20 bill would accidentally contain a representation of both terror attacks?
What are the odds that a simple geometric folding of a $20 bill with elements of design that were conceived in 1928 by a committee of treasurers, a full 42 years before the World Trade Center even existed, could accidentally contain a representation of both terror attacks? Pretty good, apparently.
The article on Beck's page goes on to ask: Need even more proof? No, you cock! You had me at "the U.S. $20 dollar bill contains hidden pictures of the World Trade Center." As if a folded picture of shrubbery on a bill that kind of looks like smoke wasn't convincing enough of a conspiracy, Beck offers this gem on his site to sway those few remaining skeptics:
This is followed by the fact that 9+11 = 20, and in big red letters:
COINCIDENCE? YOU DECIDE!
The question mark at the end of "COINCIDENCE" is clearly there to denote a rhetorical question, as clearly, this is not a coincidence. To help out Glenn Beck, I sat down with a $100 bill and tried to find any hidden messages the bill might contain. Here's one that he hasn't found yet:
Step 1:
Fold the bill so that the "ON" of "ONE" is covered:
Step 2:
Fold again like so, covering "HU" of "HUNDRED:"
Step 3:
Another fold covering part of "DOLLARS:"
Step 4:
Finally make one last fold, and with a magic marker, add the following letters to reveal a hidden message!
Coincidence? YOU DECIDE!
Further Reading:
For anyone interested in a point-by-point debunking of some of the most popular conspiracy theories out there (like the fact that steel melts at 1525� C, and although jet fuel burns only at 825� C, it doesn't have to burn hot enough to melt to cause the buildings to collapse, since steel loses 50% of its strength at 648 � C), check out the following links:
Popular Mechanics
Loose Change guide |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
�if they (Jews) all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.�
Hizbullah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah
Nasrallah alleges �Christian Zionist� plot
The Daily Star ^ | October 23 2002 | Badih Chayban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/774649/posts |
And of course any quotes highlighting similar "pseudo" semitic Zionist sentiments re:
the total eradication the Middle East's Arab populations are all merely Hamas "fabricated", right Joo? |
Well you find the quote.
Can you?
fabricated? Well if you get it from some site like Rense then yes it is probably fabricated.
but the alot of your info is fabricated.
However , when I quote you well that is not fabricated.
Your quotes show who you are and what you are. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| So did IGTG admit he was wrong regarding his allegation that the PM editor was a cousin of the Homeland security guy? |
He's not? Actually he is. But don't ask him that. He'll deny deny deny it.
If you want the truth call his mother  |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
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This is sickening. Major loss of respect for Chomsky.
CULT - OF - PERSONALITY 
Chomsky:
It Doesn't Matter Even If There Was An "Alternative" Conspiracy Behind 911
By Jeffrey Blankfort
[email protected]
12-26-6
I don't usually send videos to my list but this short clip of Noam Chomsky being interviewed re 9-11 is very revealing in which he says, referring to what critics of the official narrative allege, "what does it matter even if it was true, it wouldn't be significant?" He then refers back to the assassination of JFK in which he still insists that the assassin was Oswald, with the nonsensical comment that "people get killed all the time."
Add to this his routine dismissal of the role of the Jewish lobby in shaping US Middle East policy and it is easy to understand why he is known as the "Chief Gatekeeper." 
Will he debate anyone on these issues? Of course, not. He prefers strawman opponents like Alan Dershowitz who is guaranteed not to raise any important issues that Chomsky cannot counter. In this 4 minute clip, he speaks about coincidences that can't be explained but it would be nice if he would explain how it was that the 8000 page Patriot Act was already written, printed, and ready to be sent to Congress immediately after 9-11 when, before the event, there would have been no chance of its passage.
Another coincidence?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LoDqDvbgeXM |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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There are thousands, if not more, contingency plans and bills and other such things in place for evnts that have not occured but may.
For instance there a plan in place for a certain military division to secure the white house and congrss in the event of an attempted coup.
These are not conspiritorial in nature but necessary prophylactic measure that any responsible government would foresee.
cbc |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| There are thousands, if not more, contingency plans and bills and other such things in place for events that have not occured ... but may. |
Indeed 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwoods |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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You can't just edit my quote to fit your fabrications,
Who do you think you are Michael Freakin' Moore!!!!
cbc |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
You can't just edit my quote to fit your fabrications,
Who do you think you are Michael Freakin' Moore!!!!
cbc |
Huh? |
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