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Where is the media when the church is doing something good
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to GGS...you should read: "A Short History of Progress" by Ronald Wright. a BRILLIANT book that works as an adendum to GGS.

Lastly (for today):
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To prove you wrong, check out "Collapse: by Jared Diamond." Population is a huge factor. The amount of arable farm land is pathetic in many countries.
From the few synopses (what's the word?) I've read about "Collapse" I see no mention of Africa.
I'm not arguing that populations have a HUGE affect on war OR on their natural surroundings.
I am simply unsure if Africa is AT THE PRESENT TIME, in a LARGE population crisis (the bit of reading I've done seems divided on this point: resting in opposite camps.).

more reading for me.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
Did you read MM2 thread on Haggard? It's disgraceful and filled with horrible references to homosexuality.

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Ted Haggard turned out to be a meth-fueled q*ueer bag.


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And the more they repress themselves, the gayer the place will get. Gay as an ugly-a*ss s*hitbox full of self-hating, closeted f*aggot birds.


Lovely.


C'mon, St. Peter. Put up or retract. Who are you quoting, St Peter? I didn't write that. I didn't start a thread on your buddy. You following the Christian way and indulging in too much of meth and man ass and can't read straight (ha ha, a straight Christian)?
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off which church doing good are we talking about?

I see people doing good everyday.

Individuals involved in acts of kindness.

For some reason the media ignores them.

Why because they are not acting out pride, they are not fawning for attention they don't have their own TV stations.

Oh, crap.

Is this the right topic?

cbc
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
daskalos wrote:
Why aren't trains that don't crash news worthy?

When a plane lands safely at an airport, why don't we hear about that?

When no children are killed with assault weapons at school, why can't we read about that?

So, sort of a stupid question, huh? Things behaving like they're supposed to aren't news.

If churches doing what they're supposed to be doing did make the news, it would mean that their doing so was rare enough to merit a headline. So, be thankful that most churches seem to have a handle on feeding the poor and rescuing orphans. And be thankful that a free press can help to expose the rotten, hypocritical SOBs who give churches a bad name.


I don't think you make a good point, because I believe that good news is newsworthy. Unlike something simple like you have suggested. Feeding thousands upon thousands, or people being healed by cancer by faith or signs and wonders are definitely newsworthy. The news for the most part chooses to ignore it because it doesn't want the truth. For example, you go into a movie store and you look through the movies and most of them are porn, horror or violence. You might be lucky to find one or two based upon a good theme.

The news is not a personal advertising agent for evengelical christians. It seems you want a cookie for doing what you're supposed to do.

The news is news because it's abnormal. If we reported everything that was normal it would be impossible to decide what to report on, and it would become a massive political advertisement.

Hello and welcome to CNN news, I'm satori, and these are the headlines...

Today a working class white man in Mississippi did not refer to blacks as niggers

Today the CEO of a major financial institution did not comitt fraud

Today a doctor took perfect care of all his patients

Today a man driving to work in Ohio did not have a traffic accident

Today a white power extremist did not blow anything up

Today islamic extremists around the world did not comitt any acts of terrorism

Today no rogue states detonated any missiles

And now for the weather...
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today an Evangelist quoted from the bible.

There was no elaboration.


On another note: no Turks were eaten by any Evangelist today.

And in the Economy - Sales of spiced pheasant are on the rise.

cbc
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
Did you read MM2 thread on Haggard? It's disgraceful and filled with horrible references to homosexuality.

Quote:
Ted Haggard turned out to be a meth-fueled q*ueer bag.


Quote:
And the more they repress themselves, the gayer the place will get. Gay as an ugly-a*ss s*hitbox full of self-hating, closeted f*aggot birds.


Lovely.


C'mon, St. Peter. Put up or retract. Who are you quoting, St Peter? I didn't write that. I didn't start a thread on your buddy. You following the Christian way and indulging in too much of meth and man ass and can't read straight (ha ha, a straight Christian)?
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ED209



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hold on Mindmetoo are you some kind of Timelord?

How did you do that?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Hold on Mindmetoo are you some kind of Timelord?

How did you do that?


I'd like Fiveeagles to explain himself. I guess Christians can simply lie.
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khyber



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The news is not a personal advertising agent for evengelical christians. It seems you want a cookie for doing what you're supposed to do.

Satori is, basically right 5birds.
Probably 99.9% of NGOs who do ANY kind of work with people in need NEVER get mentioned.
If an organization has a mission to alliviate hunger from the third world, they probably won't make new for doing just that.

Ideally they WOULD be given CREDIT for doing it, but that isn't hte same as news coverage.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it bleeds it leads. That is how TV and other media see news reporting. Bad things get reported, and good things tend to not.
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=100742

And you can't tell me Benny Hinn doesn't smoke the meat pole either. C'mon. That guy is so next.

C'mon, St. Peter. Put up or retract. Who are you quoting, St Peter? I didn't write that. I didn't start a thread on your buddy. You following the Christian way and indulging in too much of meth and man ass and can't read straight (ha ha, a straight Christian)?



Did you even read the link that you posted? It was in that article you butt mole.


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fiveeagles



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Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
daskalos wrote:
Why aren't trains that don't crash news worthy?

When a plane lands safely at an airport, why don't we hear about that?

When no children are killed with assault weapons at school, why can't we read about that?

So, sort of a stupid question, huh? Things behaving like they're supposed to aren't news.

If churches doing what they're supposed to be doing did make the news, it would mean that their doing so was rare enough to merit a headline. So, be thankful that most churches seem to have a handle on feeding the poor and rescuing orphans. And be thankful that a free press can help to expose the rotten, hypocritical SOBs who give churches a bad name.


I don't think you make a good point, because I believe that good news is newsworthy. Unlike something simple like you have suggested. Feeding thousands upon thousands, or people being healed by cancer by faith or signs and wonders are definitely newsworthy. The news for the most part chooses to ignore it because it doesn't want the truth. For example, you go into a movie store and you look through the movies and most of them are porn, horror or violence. You might be lucky to find one or two based upon a good theme.

The news is not a personal advertising agent for evengelical christians. It seems you want a cookie for doing what you're supposed to do.

The news is news because it's abnormal. If we reported everything that was normal it would be impossible to decide what to report on, and it would become a massive political advertisement.

Hello and welcome to CNN news, I'm satori, and these are the headlines...

Today a working class white man in Mississippi did not refer to blacks as *beep*

Today the CEO of a major financial institution did not comitt fraud

Today a doctor took perfect care of all his patients

Today a man driving to work in Ohio did not have a traffic accident

Today a white power extremist did not blow anything up

Today islamic extremists around the world did not comitt any acts of terrorism

Today no rogue states detonated any missiles

And now for the weather...


lol...ok good point.

However, news shouldn't be fear based. It should be hope based.

Like good acts that organizations are doing thoughout the world.
Like the work the evangelicals are doing to help the conditions in many parts of the areas. Including feeding the poor, standing for justice and the signs and wonders that are happening.
Like what the Dali Lama is doing to spread peace.

If it doesn't do these things then it is because the news doesn't want people to know the truth. Fear, hatred and lust sells.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
Satori wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
daskalos wrote:
Why aren't trains that don't crash news worthy?

When a plane lands safely at an airport, why don't we hear about that?

When no children are killed with assault weapons at school, why can't we read about that?

So, sort of a stupid question, huh? Things behaving like they're supposed to aren't news.

If churches doing what they're supposed to be doing did make the news, it would mean that their doing so was rare enough to merit a headline. So, be thankful that most churches seem to have a handle on feeding the poor and rescuing orphans. And be thankful that a free press can help to expose the rotten, hypocritical SOBs who give churches a bad name.


I don't think you make a good point, because I believe that good news is newsworthy. Unlike something simple like you have suggested. Feeding thousands upon thousands, or people being healed by cancer by faith or signs and wonders are definitely newsworthy. The news for the most part chooses to ignore it because it doesn't want the truth. For example, you go into a movie store and you look through the movies and most of them are porn, horror or violence. You might be lucky to find one or two based upon a good theme.

The news is not a personal advertising agent for evengelical christians. It seems you want a cookie for doing what you're supposed to do.

The news is news because it's abnormal. If we reported everything that was normal it would be impossible to decide what to report on, and it would become a massive political advertisement.

Hello and welcome to CNN news, I'm satori, and these are the headlines...

Today a working class white man in Mississippi did not refer to blacks as *beep*

Today the CEO of a major financial institution did not comitt fraud

Today a doctor took perfect care of all his patients

Today a man driving to work in Ohio did not have a traffic accident

Today a white power extremist did not blow anything up

Today islamic extremists around the world did not comitt any acts of terrorism

Today no rogue states detonated any missiles

And now for the weather...


lol...ok good point.

However, news shouldn't be fear based. It should be hope based.

Like good acts that organizations are doing thoughout the world.
Like the work the evangelicals are doing to help the conditions in many parts of the areas. Including feeding the poor, standing for justice and the signs and wonders that are happening.
Like what the Dali Lama is doing to spread peace.

If it doesn't do these things then it is because the news doesn't want people to know the truth. Fear, hatred and lust sells.

You said "good point" and then proceeded to post like you didn't understand at all. Awsome.

So, once more for luck. People doing what they are supposed to do is not news.

Today a teacher did three hours of quality preparation and then taught 6 very effective classes.

It's great that it happens, but it's not news.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=100742

And you can't tell me Benny Hinn doesn't smoke the meat pole either. C'mon. That guy is so next.

C'mon, St. Peter. Put up or retract. Who are you quoting, St Peter? I didn't write that. I didn't start a thread on your buddy. You following the Christian way and indulging in too much of meth and man ass and can't read straight (ha ha, a straight Christian)?



Did you even read the link that you posted? It was in that article you butt mole.


Well, finally you clarified. And in such a Christian fashion. Tsk Tsk, St. Peter. Isn't it wonderful how one can use the Christian faith to hate?
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
fiveeagles wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=100742

And you can't tell me Benny Hinn doesn't smoke the meat pole either. C'mon. That guy is so next.

C'mon, St. Peter. Put up or retract. Who are you quoting, St Peter? I didn't write that. I didn't start a thread on your buddy. You following the Christian way and indulging in too much of meth and man ass and can't read straight (ha ha, a straight Christian)?



Did you even read the link that you posted? It was in that article you butt mole.


Well, finally you clarified. And in such a Christian fashion. Tsk Tsk, St. Peter. Isn't it wonderful how one can use the Christian faith to hate?


Calling you a butt mole is hate? Rolling Eyes Then I must hate a lot of my friends. Are you for real man? I was going to call you a meat pole, but I thought you would start whining like Adam Sandler's grandma, so I eased it down fer ya. lol so much for kindness, eh?
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