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pastis
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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| I'm confused about the question. If you're not a christian, why would care what the Bible or christians say? If you are a christian, why would you care what a bunch of people on a message board say? In either scenario, in your own mind, you already know the answer to your question. |
This is pure speculation [...] Dave's Horny Male English Teachers Surrounded By Korean Beauties Cafe? |
"D.H.M.E.T.S.B.K.B.C."
Doesn't make much of an acronym, does it? Methinks you could have done better... |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: Sex before marriage? |
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| ashishkebob wrote: |
Does God really care what we do? |
Mhhh what Bible are you following and do you follow the teachings of the Church or not.
It is the Church that forbids Sex before Marriage, as far as i read the bible, i could never find anything about sex before marriage.
I believe that if God does exist, he would like us to maximize our utility by prcreating as much as possible 
Do not forget that earth was made for humankind, so we need to make the best of it |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for all the responses Statistically, couples who cohabitate before marriage, have a higher divorce rate. Why? |
Because those who wait for marriage usually do it for religious reasons, and the the same religion also forbids divorce. |
And who ever said Divorce is a bad thing?
If both people honor the contract, and both people can come to a solution on how to divide the spoils of their marriage i do not see the problem with Divorce.
Divorce is not the problem, how they divorce is the problem. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| And who ever said Divorce is a bad thing? |
Not me.
It's not a morally bad thing or to be avoided at all costs. However, of course it's desirable to keep a marriage together if possible. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Green Tea wrote: |
What if I don't ejaculate inside? Will I still burn in hell for that?  |
Well look what happened to Ona. God really frowns on pulling out and spilling thy seed. So yes you will burn in hell |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| What if I don't ejaculate inside? Will I still burn in hell for that? |
Well look what happened to Ona. God really frowns on pulling out and spilling thy seed. So yes you will burn in hell |
I know you're kidding, but some people don't.
Onan was given Tamar, his brother's widow as his wife. He didn't want her to have kids because they would have inherited in his brother's name (weird laws) but if she didn't have kids, she would be without anyone to care for her in her old age.
Tamar really wanted kids. Onan decided to use her for sex anyway, but insisted on using the "withdrawal method. Pretty selfish, no? That's what God said. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Sex before marriage? |
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Being brought up as a Christian, I have been taught that sex is a sin outside of marriage...Lately I have been struggling with what God is really saying in the Bible.
Putting aside religion, what are your thoughts and opinions about the Pros and Cons of sex outside of marriage, including Pre-marital and Extra-marital sex?
Does God really care what we do? |
If you have sex before you're married it will make Jesus feel all the pain he did on the cross. Just don't go there. Also, if you have sex with someone you don't go on to marry you won't be able to get married later because it will be committing adultery. In fact even looking at women lustfully is committing adultery in your heart. If you can't find a nice young Christian virgin of the opposite sex soon you should just go get yourself neutered. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
Onan was given Tamar, his brother's widow as his wife. He didn't want her to have kids because they would have inherited in his brother's name (weird laws) but if she didn't have kids, she would be without anyone to care for her in her old age.
Tamar really wanted kids. Onan decided to use her for sex anyway, but insisted on using the "withdrawal method. Pretty selfish, no? That's what God said. |
When it comes to clarifying the Bible, nothing beats ...
Genesis 38:1
Judah left his brothers to stay with an Adullamite man named Hirah.
Genesis 38:2
There Judah saw the daughter of a Canaanite man named Shua.
Genesis 38:2
Judah acquired her as a wife.
Genesis 38:2
And he had sex with her.
Genesis 38:3
She became pregnant and had a son. Judah named him Er.
Genesis 38:4
She became pregnant again and had a son. She named him Onan.
Genesis 38:6
Judah acquired a wife for his firstborn Er, and her name was Tamar.
Genesis 38:7
But Judah's firstborn Er was offensive to Yahweh, and Yahweh killed him.
Genesis 38:8
Judah said to Onan, 'Have sex with your brother's wife, performing the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise offspring for your brother.'
Genesis 38:9
But knowing that the child would not be his, whenever Onan had sex with his brother's wife, he would spill his semen on the ground to avoid giving offspring to his brother.
Genesis 38:10
What he did offended Yahweh, and Yahweh killed him too.
Hope that clears things up. Thanks The Brick Testament! |
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pastis
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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haha, those lego stories are hilarious. The baby kind of looks like a severed head, though.
I saw another Bibilical lego thing somewhere, I'll see if I can find it... |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Genesis 38:9
But knowing that the child would not be his, whenever Onan had sex with his brother's wife, he would spill his semen on the ground to avoid giving offspring to his brother. |
Should have gone for the face, always the face. Even God appreciates the money shot.
And that Tamar is kinda hot. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
| ED209 wrote: |
| Green Tea wrote: |
| What if I don't ejaculate inside? Will I still burn in hell for that? |
Well look what happened to Ona. God really frowns on pulling out and spilling thy seed. So yes you will burn in hell |
I know you're kidding, but some people don't.
Onan was given Tamar, his brother's widow as his wife. He didn't want her to have kids because they would have inherited in his brother's name (weird laws) but if she didn't have kids, she would be without anyone to care for her in her old age.
Tamar really wanted kids. Onan decided to use her for sex anyway, but insisted on using the "withdrawal method. Pretty selfish, no? That's what God said. |
I see the principle that is expressing. But "Dont spill your seed on fallow ground" has become "Dont jerk off", which is not the same thing at all.
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Sex before marriage? |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| ashishkebob wrote: |
Being brought up as a Christian, I have been taught that sex is a sin outside of marriage...Lately I have been struggling with what God is really saying in the Bible.
Putting aside religion, what are your thoughts and opinions about the Pros and Cons of sex outside of marriage, including Pre-marital and Extra-marital sex?
Does God really care what we do? |
If you have sex before you're married it will make Jesus feel all the pain he did on the cross. Just don't go there. Also, if you have sex with someone you don't go on to marry you won't be able to get married later because it will be committing adultery. In fact even looking at women lustfully is committing adultery in your heart. If you can't find a nice young Christian virgin of the opposite sex soon you should just go get yourself neutered. |
I hope this is satire... |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| hmm. Ideally speaking..I think a person would be well if they had one committed lover all their life. Sex is a very strong intimacy, and break ups can be hurtful. Ideally yes..its probably better reserved for the same 2 people their entire lives. when you think of the strong emotions it brings to the surface in people constantly. Fighting..jealousy..hatred..etc etc etc. Its actually quite a serious step that is taken very lightly now.The bible does not condemn sex as bad or our bodies as dirty, it just puts its proper place within marriage and committed relationship. Broken families, unmarried mothers, abortions, prostitution, cheating spouses.. STD's etc etc are hardly an ideal situation now is it?? It wasn't really designed to be spread around like that. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Broken families, unmarried mothers, abortions, prostitution, cheating spouses.. STD's etc etc are hardly an ideal situation now is it?? |
And these are all caused exclusively by pre-marital sex...  |
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ashishkebob
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:48 am Post subject: From the OP... |
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The Old Testament said, "Thou shalt not commit adultery"
The New Testament said, "Even if you look at a woman with lust in your heart, you have committed adultery" (paraphrased)
Which means that every man has commited adultery? It's almost impossible to not look at girls with mini skirts, low cut tops, and not think dirty. I mean we are all human, but does that make us adulterers?
Honestly its hard to live as a true Christian, especially for young men and this thing called Lust.
I don't know how God will judge, but I think God being a fair judge isn't going condemn a guy who lusts now and again the same way that he judges a rapist or adulterer.
I heard somewhere, that men think of sex every 2 minutes, or something like that.....
Either we are a bunch of adulterers, or Jesus is saying something that I am not interpreting in the right way?
Any insights? |
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