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How much do real Korean teachers make compared to us?
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chuckster



Joined: 12 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a teacher in her mid 40's. She was asking my salary and said that she got 55,000,000won a year. Don't know if she was stretching the details or not.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know a teacher in her mid 40's. She was asking my salary and said that she got 55,000,000 won a year. Don't know if she was stretching the details or not.

If she has more than 15 years experience, then why not approximately 55,000,000 won per year?

Korea
Education at a Glance 2008: OECD Indicators--Indicator D3: How much are teachers paid?
(Note: in equivalent USD converted using PPPs)
--Primary education--
Starting Salary: 30,528
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,666
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,262
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.29

--Secodary education--
Starting Salary: 30,405
Salary after 15 years experience: 52,543
Salary at the top of the scale: 84,139
Ratio of salary after 15 years of experience to GDP per capita: 2.28

Table D3.1. Teachers' salaries (2006)--Annual statutory teachers' salaries in public institutions at starting salary, after 15 years of experience and at the top of the scale by level of education, in equivalent USD converted using PPPs
Last updated: 04-Sep-2008
Excel File for download: http://ocde.p4.siteinternet.com/publications/doifiles/962008041P1G025.xls
Main Website address: http://www.oecd.org/document/9/0,3343,en_2649_39263238_41266761_1_1_1_1,00.html

Teachers' salaries -- From The Economist (Sep 27th 2007)
http://www.economist.com/markets/indicators/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9867632
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Teaching in Turkey and South Korea has a very high status, with earnings more than double the average income per head....


Teacher Labor Markets in Developed Countries: The Future of Children
http://www.futureofchildren.org/information2850/information_show.htm?doc_id=470797
image link: http://www.futureofchildren.org/doc_img/470797.gif

Teachers in Korea have guaranteed tenure until they reach the mandatory retirement age.
Attracting, Developing and Retaining Effective Teachers
Country Note: Korea
John Coolahan, Paulo Santiago, Rowena Phair and Akira Ninomiya
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, Directorate for Education, Education and Training Policy Division
http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/26/49/31690991.pdf
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chuckster wrote:
I know a teacher in her mid 40's. She was asking my salary and said that she got 55,000,000won a year. Don't know if she was stretching the details or not.


No, she was laughing hysterically in her mind.
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Jandar



Joined: 11 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP, in the thread title, seems to imply that we, Native English Teachers, are not "real" teachers.

Was that the intent of the OP?

Has this observation already been made?
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IIILALALAIII



Joined: 31 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, THIS THREAD WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED A YEAR AND HALF AGO.
STILL RESPONDING. I'M one of them too. haha
anyhow,

I'm assuming that the OP is in Taiwan, eh?

If you go to any country, whether you like it or not,
get used to it.

Don't complain. That is the culture. Don't expect to be as you imagined or as you want it.

If you find the place of your dream, well good for you.
Stay there
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIILALALAIII wrote:


Don't complain. That is the culture.


Korea doesn't have nearly enough leverage on the world stage to be making statements like this. If you had a 200 million man standing army and one of the largest and fastest growing economies in the world (like 중국) you might have something here. But you are 한국, history's 동생, so please go back to acting like it.
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seosan08



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My coteacher has been teaching for more than 20 years (6 years till 55 retirement) and makes W5 million/month as does his wife who teaches in another school.
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bangbayed



Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jandar wrote:
The OP, in the thread title, seems to imply that we, Native English Teachers, are not "real" teachers.

Was that the intent of the OP?

Has this observation already been made?


He's probably referring to the fact that most of the foreigners teaching in public schools do not have a teaching certificate, TESOL or CELTA notwithstanding - and even then, probably not.

Fair enough, if I spent a couple of years training to be a teacher, I probably wouldn't consider some kid out of university with a BA to be a real teacher either.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet most of us F holders make more money than most teachers, and some of us more than principals. If you exclude the bribe money and skimming from English programs, that is.
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SOOHWA101



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A popular teacher (always korean) at a hogwon will get a cut on the tuition the students pay. Thus a very high salary. A few 'stars' in the industry make much, much more.


Not always! You should talk to your boss about this. If you can create a popular class and draft up a syllabus, there is no reason for them not to cut a deal with you, especially for a weekend class. Getting 50% from the tuition from that class is not unheard of. It really comes down to communication and trust.

And you are correct, you can easily double your salary with little to no work.
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jonbowman88



Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: gwangju, s korea

PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to know if they make the same as us during winter/summer camps
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roknroll



Joined: 29 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WOW, THIS THREAD WAS ORIGINALLY POSTED A YEAR AND HALF AGO.


Actually it's about a year and 3/4s. Dismayed, disillusioned, disappointed, disenchanted, discombobulated and somewhat depressed, about the lack of opportunity (excuse) to bombard, barrage, blitzkrieg, blast, besiege, or bomb a thread with a plethora (overabundance,oversupply,overflow,overkill) of links that may or may not be related to the thread, Real Reality finally found his diamond in the rough. I, for one, cannot believe that he missed it. I'm sure he's equally as baffled. However, I have a sneaking feeling that this is unlikely to happen again.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonbowman88 wrote:
I'd like to know if they make the same as us during winter/summer camps


If the foreign teacher is lucky enough to be getting paid, and the Korean teacher didn't manage to get camp classes, our salary plus camp might come close to their normal salary.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here to look for information about somehow I ended up on this.

To set the record straight.

Everything is "Expressed in equivalent US$ converted using purchasing power parities."

This means is a Coke costs $1 in the US and $0.5 in Korea for numeros different goods the PPP of the US to Korea will be 2:1, and the price is discounted.

These figures are pointless. I may even go so far as to say the writers of this report have used PPP to inflate Korea's figures.

Anyway does anyone know how long Chuseok is this? I have been told 2 days?
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I came here to look for information about somehow I ended up on this.

To set the record straight.

Everything is "Expressed in equivalent US$ converted using purchasing power parities."

This means is a Coke costs $1 in the US and $0.5 in Korea for numeros different goods the PPP of the US to Korea will be 2:1, and the price is discounted.

These figures are pointless. I may even go so far as to say the writers of this report have used PPP to inflate Korea's figures.

Anyway does anyone know how long Chuseok is this? I have been told 2 days?
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