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I'm not joking, but presenting a more logical radical alternative.

And more than 75% of the world's governments NEED TO BE overthrown. So I have no problem with that.

Eventually, the world would be filled with governments that do next to nothing. To survive, they would have to do as little as possible so as to offend no one: no taxes, no government borrowing, no government debt, no draft, no wars, no victimless crime laws, no regulation of business, no government services of any kind. That would be almost a perfect world.


By my own estimate, the governments in the world kill more people each year, directly and indirectly, than the total number of people murdered by individuals throughout history, up to that point.

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No it wouldn't have. There were uprisings and attempted uprisings by Jews. They failed. They failed for a variety of reasons (Jewish infighting, faith America would save them, faith that the Germans would stop, etc) but gun control was not one of them. The Nazi's defeated France, with one of the largest armed forces in the world at the time, they defeated England (until the US helped) they were an almost unstoppable force and nothing could have saved those who died in the camps.


And while I may be a gun control advocate, I have fired guns in the past and know a little something about firearms. I don't care if you are a rated sharpshooter, there is no way you could bring down a helicopter with a pistol unless it was 20 feet of the ground or you got a lucky, fluke shot. Just wouldn't happen, and again I will bet you.

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Actually, shooting into the air (taking into account gravity, windresistance, it increases as you climb) is ia bit more tricky. Add to the fact that geting the slug to penetrate the shell of a helicopter would be difficult at anything above 150 feet. So its unlikely. And BTW, when was the last time you saw a helicopter flying under 150 feet?

Now on to the Holocaust. This I do know a little about, as I took a history of the Holocaust in my undergrad days. The course was taught by a scholar who spent her whole career studying it. She could speak ENglish, German, Russian and Hebrew and did her PhD in Berlin reading boxes of 3rd Reich paperwork.

In that class, which got very heated almost everyday, the only issue that was never mentioned (not in her lectures, not in any of the texts or readings, not in any of the films and not by any of the survivors) was gun control. The Holocaust had nothing to do with gun control. The Nazi's used Jews to police and round up other Jews inside the ghettos and camps. They did this to prevent panics and uprisings. When the Jews did rise up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

They were slaughtered by a far superior force, the same force that had conquered most of Europe.

It would seem that the only people tyying to make this point about gun control and the Holocaust are those nutbars trying to associate gun control advocates with Hitler and Il Duce and Stalin.

Its pretty sad when people EXPLOIT the tragedy of the Holocaust to try and score cheap partisan political points, but its not surprising since the same people usually invoke the name of God to justify their own bigotry, ignorance and hatred towards others.

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[quote="Octavius Hite"]Actually, shooting into the air (taking into account gravity, windresistance, it increases as you climb) is ia bit more tricky. Add to the fact that geting the slug to penetrate the shell of a helicopter would be difficult at anything above 150 feet. So its unlikely. And BTW, when was the last time you saw a helicopter flying under 150 feet?

Now on to the Holocaust. This I do know a little about, as I took a history of the Holocaust in my undergrad days. The course was taught by a scholar who spent her whole career studying it. She could speak ENglish, German, Russian and Hebrew and did her PhD in Berlin reading boxes of 3rd Reich paperwork.

In that class, which got very heated almost everyday, the only issue that was never mentioned (not in her lectures, not in any of the texts or readings, not in any of the films and not by any of the survivors) was gun control. The Holocaust had nothing to do with gun control. The Nazi's used Jews to police and round up other Jews inside the ghettos and camps. They did this to prevent panics and uprisings. When the Jews did rise up:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

They were slaughtered by a far superior force, the same force that had conquered most of Europe.

It would seem that the only people tyying to make this point about gun control and the Holocaust are those nutbars trying to associate gun control advocates with Hitler and Il Duce and Stalin.

Its pretty sad when people EXPLOIT the tragedy of the Holocaust to try and score cheap partisan political points, but its not surprising since the same people usually invoke the name of God to justify their own bigotry, ignorance and hatred towards others.[/quot"And BTW, when was the last time you saw a helicopter flying under 150 feet? "

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