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The Soprano's: S P O I L E R A L E R T!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sup fellas. Yeah, that was a whopper that last episode. I can't wait until the finale. I was jumping up with joy when Tony dragged that pissant of a son and mopped the floor with him. My wife didn't think that was cool. I said, *beep* that, that little bitch deserved everything and anything that comes to him! Man...after 6 years it is finally coming to an end. I hope Phil gets wacked that *beep*.
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animalbirdfish



Joined: 04 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

animalbirdfish wrote:
I fear a cop-out ending, such as...

A) Tony wakes up and it was ALL just a dream. He really is that salesmen that he dreamt of being when he was laid up from the gunshot.

B) The "nothing" ending: the family all sits down together in Artie's restaurant and eats a dinner while a thunderstorm rages outside, as happened in an earlier season.


I almost feel like I called it with "B." Almost, but not quite. I thought the final scene was brilliantly shot, if not exactly an "ending." Such a great combo of sentimentality and foreboding, all mixed into one ominous portrait.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

animalbirdfish wrote:
animalbirdfish wrote:
I fear a cop-out ending, such as...

A) Tony wakes up and it was ALL just a dream. He really is that salesmen that he dreamt of being when he was laid up from the gunshot.

B) The "nothing" ending: the family all sits down together in Artie's restaurant and eats a dinner while a thunderstorm rages outside, as happened in an earlier season.


I almost feel like I called it with "B." Almost, but not quite. I thought the final scene was brilliantly shot, if not exactly an "ending." Such a great combo of sentimentality and foreboding, all mixed into one ominous portrait.


The last 5 or ten minutes were fantastic. Meadow parking the car was genius because its the kind of thing that puts you on edge in real life(must have been a metaphor for meadow finding a direction after a few setbacks/), the music, everybody coming in one by one, fantastic. I thought it was a great ending, especially because at that point there was no real reason for Tony to be wacked.

edit..i thought it was a real 'sopranos type ending as the show was about family life in alot of ways..maybe killing tony would have been the cop out


edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That kind of ended abruptly.

Phil played it all wrong.

The ending was Tony's life.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
animalbirdfish wrote:
animalbirdfish wrote:
I fear a cop-out ending, such as...

A) Tony wakes up and it was ALL just a dream. He really is that salesmen that he dreamt of being when he was laid up from the gunshot.

B) The "nothing" ending: the family all sits down together in Artie's restaurant and eats a dinner while a thunderstorm rages outside, as happened in an earlier season.


I almost feel like I called it with "B." Almost, but not quite. I thought the final scene was brilliantly shot, if not exactly an "ending." Such a great combo of sentimentality and foreboding, all mixed into one ominous portrait.


The last 5 or ten minutes were fantastic. Meadow parking the car was genius because its the kind of thing that puts you on edge in real life(must have been a metaphor for meadow finding a direction after a few setbacks/), the music, everybody coming in one by one, fantastic. I thought it was a great ending, especially because at that point there was no real reason for Tony to be wacked.

edit..i thought it was a real 'sopranos type ending as the show was about family life in alot of ways..maybe killing tony would have been the cop out


edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?


Yup, was wondering the same.

I kind of thought that they'd either end up in a massive mob war or sitting around the table like normal folk - I guess I was right on both counts. lol
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:

edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?


He doesn't see himself. When he looks, he's not there. Camera pans back to him looking. Maybe his perplexed look was realising that he was the first one of the family to show up. Then it pans to after with him sitting there.

The suspicious looking guy could've been a bodyguard. He was walking in ahead of AJ. Tony looked at him walking by to the bathroom, but only for a second. I noticed that that guy looked over to the laughing couple. Maybe keeping an eye out.

No way that guy was a hitman.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
JMO wrote:

edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?


He doesn't see himself. When he looks, he's not there. Camera pans back to him looking. Maybe his perplexed look was realising that he was the first one of the family to show up. Then it pans to after with him sitting there.

The suspicious looking guy could've been a bodyguard. He was walking in ahead of AJ. Tony looked at him walking by to the bathroom, but only for a second. I noticed that that guy looked over to the laughing couple. Maybe keeping an eye out.

No way that guy was a hitman.


Yea I got that on second viewing. I don't think that guy was a bodygaurd. In fact watching it a second and third time none of the people look that suspicious. I think the ending plays on our belief that something is going to happen to Tony. It may have been to illustrate the fear that he will have at the back of his head for te rest of his life, every time someone walks through the door. The first time we see it, we see through Tony's eyes open to the danger, but the next few times its just a normal family dinner. Kinda sums up the Sopranos MO. Good ending.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
JMO wrote:

edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?


He doesn't see himself. When he looks, he's not there. Camera pans back to him looking. Maybe his perplexed look was realising that he was the first one of the family to show up. Then it pans to after with him sitting there.

The suspicious looking guy could've been a bodyguard. He was walking in ahead of AJ. Tony looked at him walking by to the bathroom, but only for a second. I noticed that that guy looked over to the laughing couple. Maybe keeping an eye out.

No way that guy was a hitman.


Yea I got that on second viewing. I don't think that guy was a bodygaurd. In fact watching it a second and third time none of the people look that suspicious. I think the ending plays on our belief that something is going to happen to Tony. It may have been to illustrate the fear that he will have at the back of his head for te rest of his life, every time someone walks through the door. The first time we see it, we see through Tony's eyes open to the danger, but the next few times its just a normal family dinner. Kinda sums up the Sopranos MO. Good ending.


Yeah. Wish that guy would have just shot them all in the head. Made them beg first.

Stupid ending.

Shove calizone and pizza down their throats and up their nostrils then force AJ to shoot everyone. Top it all off with an AJ Columbian Neck Tie.

The End
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animalbirdfish



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
JMO wrote:

edit: still trying to figure out the switch when he walks in to the restaurant and sees himself. Dream sequence anyone?


He doesn't see himself. When he looks, he's not there. Camera pans back to him looking. Maybe his perplexed look was realising that he was the first one of the family to show up. Then it pans to after with him sitting there.

The suspicious looking guy could've been a bodyguard. He was walking in ahead of AJ. Tony looked at him walking by to the bathroom, but only for a second. I noticed that that guy looked over to the laughing couple. Maybe keeping an eye out.

No way that guy was a hitman.


Yea I got that on second viewing. I don't think that guy was a bodygaurd. In fact watching it a second and third time none of the people look that suspicious. I think the ending plays on our belief that something is going to happen to Tony. It may have been to illustrate the fear that he will have at the back of his head for te rest of his life, every time someone walks through the door. The first time we see it, we see through Tony's eyes open to the danger, but the next few times its just a normal family dinner. Kinda sums up the Sopranos MO. Good ending.


The final scene - and that fellow who gets up from the counter and heads to the restroom - reminded me of the scene in The Godfather where Michael uses a gun hidden in the bathroom to take out a guy. I'm inclined to doubt that that happens here, though. How would anyone have known the family was going to eat dinner at that restaurant on that night? Seemed to be a last-minute decision.
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kingtout



Joined: 03 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phil Leotardo's head getting run over by the SUV rocked. Especially when they showed the bro's drinking 40's, not doing anything but wincing, then puking. Fantastic.
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oxfordstu



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought the ending sucked. It wasn't the worst ending to a series (that award belongs to "Friends"), but it's definitely up there. An author/creator shouldn't be afraid to kill off characters. Grow some balls, David Chase.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxfordstu wrote:
Thought the ending sucked. It wasn't the worst ending to a series (that award belongs to "Friends"), but it's definitely up there. An author/creator shouldn't be afraid to kill off characters. Grow some balls, David Chase.


Two words that will explain why he didn't kill Tony:

TV special.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killing Tony after the sitdown with new york and phil dead would have been strange. I thought the show was about family and this ending fitted the show. The show seemed to end like most of my favorite Sopranos did, tony sitting with his family, eating.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was a great ending. No sappy 'Dallas' or 'Melrose Place' type antics. That is what has kept it quality throughout.
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animalbirdfish



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxfordstu wrote:
Thought the ending sucked. It wasn't the worst ending to a series (that award belongs to "Friends"), but it's definitely up there. An author/creator shouldn't be afraid to kill off characters. Grow some balls, David Chase.


David Chase has never really conformed to what people thought he should do with the show - a big reason this show didn't turn into the "whack-one-a-week" that it might have, given the subject matter.

For eight years, watching the show was like being a fly on the wall of Tony's life. With the ending, we're just not allowed to watch anymore, but life goes on - probably into court battles for Tony and whatever else becomes of mob outfits in Jersey.

Beautiful ending.
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