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For the Men: Do You Want Babies? Why or Why Not?
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Yeah, I have kids now.
Yeah, I hope to have kids someday.
58%
 58%  [ 37 ]
Good God, no. And if they sit next to me on the plane, drug them please.
17%
 17%  [ 11 ]
No. I'm all about me and my simple life.
23%
 23%  [ 15 ]
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SuperFly



Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been married for almost 9 years. Doctor said there's nothing wrong with either of us, but we've had three miscarriages. I'd like to have a kid.
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's rough. Keep trying! I hope it'll happen for you. I bet anybody good with dogs would be good with kids.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swetepete wrote:
I bet anybody good with dogs would be good with kids.

I hate dogs, so I'm guessing I'd be bad with kids.

indytrucks wrote:
When you've stood in a delivery room and watched your wife give birth to child, it changes you. Any person not moved by such an event lacks a soul.

There you go. Why would you want someone without a soul to raise children? Why wait until that moment to find out "oh shit, this was a mistake". At that point, it's too late.

Natalie wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
as my father's only child I'm expected to have children and, more importantly, have been raised to see myself not as just an atomic individual but as part of a long family history of which I have a role to not only generate offspring but to raise them well and to find enjoyment in their successes and lives as my father has in mine

wow. thats pretty heavy. I guess guys have it tough too.(of course, this would be a huge issue for only sons in Korea)
I mean, for those men that actually want to get married and have children, of cousre this wouldn't be an issue. BUt what if you just don't want them?

I was sort of in the same boat. Only three male grandchildren in the family, and one of them had a different family name. Which left my brother and I the sole remaining chance of continuing the family line. Unfortunately for my parents and my grandparents, I had decided in my teens I didn't want kids and had a vasectomy years ago.

My brother stepped up to bat and now the pressure will be all on the shoulders of the year-old great grandson in about 20 years.

Juregen wrote:
sojourner1 wrote:

I am not interested in having kids one bit as I would want to own a house, have high income, live near relatives, and most importantly; have the right wife and a nanny to free up some time for other activities such as trips and socials.


You are then missing the most enjoyable part of being a father. Please don't become one.

I believe that's what he said.
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Wurmwood



Joined: 13 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with twg; kids are more fun when they're someone elses problem. I'm not saying there aren't good things about having kids, but if I leave that to my sisters and don't have any of my own, I get all the perks of having kids without the pitfalls. I don't need the shrill, piercing scream of a baby at 4 a.m. or any other part of the day, for that matter. I don't need the dozens of shit-laden diapers day after day. I also don't need the smart-mouthed teenagers rolling their eyes at me because they think I'm the one who's naive; not to mention the stress I'm spared and the money I'm saving by not having kids. Can't say I'm sorry I've managed to dodge that bullet. Now that I'm 30, I'm getting a vasectomy a.s.a.p, because I'm sure it won't be long before I start meeting women I'll have a hard time making conversation with over the sound of their biological clocks ticking.

The best condom commercial I ever saw (which I only saw once or twice late at night before they pulled it because condoms are icky and the commercials encourage teenagers to have sex) had a guy in his 20's walking through a grocery store with his little brat. The kid picks up some food item and insists that daddy buy it. Daddy says 'No' and the kid proceeds to throw a huge tantrum and embarrasses poor daddy who wouldn't have been in this situation if he'd only used Trojans, of course.

Amen to that.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wurmwood wrote:
The best condom commercial I ever saw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgkLZX401E

I believe it won a Golden Lion.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wurmwood wrote:
I'm with twg; kids are more fun when they're someone elses problem. I'm not saying there aren't good things about having kids, but if I leave that to my sisters and don't have any of my own, I get all the perks of having kids without the pitfalls. I don't need the shrill, piercing scream of a baby at 4 a.m. or any other part of the day, for that matter. I don't need the dozens of *beep*-laden diapers day after day. I also don't need the smart-mouthed teenagers rolling their eyes at me because they think I'm the one who's naive; not to mention the stress I'm spared and the money I'm saving by not having kids. Can't say I'm sorry I've managed to dodge that bullet. Now that I'm 30, I'm getting a vasectomy a.s.a.p, because I'm sure it won't be long before I start meeting women I'll have a hard time making conversation with over the sound of their biological clocks ticking.


Note the number of times the pronoun 'I', or it's derivative, is used in the above paragraph.

I'm happy you've decided to not have kids. You sound like someone who's far too selfish and stuck up their own arsehole to look after them properly anyway.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
I'm happy you've decided to not have kids. You sound like someone who's far too selfish and stuck up their own arsehole to look after them properly anyway.

Why the insults? If someone decides not to have children, why exactly do you care? Why not go after those who have had children, but clearly shouldn't have. Start with my father for one. Growing up in a household knowing you were not wanted and were ignored EXACTLY because you were not wanted is a terrible way to grow up.

Those kinds of "parents" do a hell of a lot more damage than people who don't have kids at all.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
[Why the insults? If someone decides not to have children, why exactly do you care?


I applauded the poster for realising he doesn't want to have kids. As for the insults, I guess I should apologise. I'm a bit stressed at the moment.

Sorry.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to be a dad... bring a Welsh/Peruvian/Korean child into the world.... it would great to have their mum's musical talent with the piano and my boxing skills and devastating good looks! Cool A top combination!

PS: Even better if they are born a natural southpaw! Laughing
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Wurmwood



Joined: 13 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indytrucks is kinda right. While I think I'd make a better father than a lot of other parents, I am concerned first and foremost with my own interests. But as long as I don't have kids, I can't be selfish toward them.
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mcgeezer



Joined: 17 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really want to have kids, and when i turned 25 that instinct to be a parent grew even more....

The problem is...

I just don't want to have to deal with a wife or full committment relationship....

Guess i still have a lot of growing up to do Wink
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Are they the lemmings



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is is defeatist to have apprehensions about bringing a child into this world?

Is it overly negative to think a child of mine would likely go through an increasingly poor public education system, live in an environment of rampant political correctness and flagrant consumption, struggle to stay on the right side of the have/have-not divide and feel antipathy towards those on the other side, have considerable public debt foisted upon him/her, etc?
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am undecided about whether I would like kids or not. Perhaps it is because I am still single and not in a committed relationship. At my age, 46, I think it would be more appropriate for me to adopt an older child should I get married and want a family.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
As for the insults, I guess I should apologise. I'm a bit stressed at the moment.


How so? Perhaps due to: making sure the mortgage is paid and the bank is not writing up a foreclosure, ensuring your family has enough food on the table, staying awake at night biting your fingers when your children's sicknesses and fevers don't go down, holding your job and trying hard to please your boss so you are not fired because if you are you would lose your ability to keep your family, doing the neverending housework while trying not to go off the edge, the noise of fighting and jumping driving into your head, being evicted because of the noise your kids make ...

Stress. Having a family brings a lot of it.
Luckily society accepts and allows for some difficulties parents have.
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mike123_ca



Joined: 12 Mar 2003
Location: wandering between Chonan and Asan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was 43 when my son was born. I didn't get married until I was in my forties. Surprised

The downside is that he has a lot of energy and is always tiring me out. I am kind of sad of the age difference, but at least his mother is younger.

The good news is that I'm much more finanicial stable now. I haven't had any serious money issues since I've been married. Makes family life much easier. I do think think if your not comfortable about being a father, then maybe should wait a bit longer.
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