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[fruitcake]

one thing's for sure:

folks will look back to this era and laugh at hip-hop fashion and culture. I'm already lookin at these people with the baseball caps tilted to one side, oversized baggy pants and basketball jerseys and thinkin, "what absolute tools!" too bad most of them don't have a ghetto to crawl back to.

I wouldn't knock the music so much, though it seems to have run its course. Korean hip-hop is so formulaic, it's laughable. So precise that they even get the female "vocalists" who can't really sing.

please never call Boys to Men or Usher "R&B". "Commercialized soul" would be a better word.

mini-rant: perhaps a sad testiment to the human condition: dance clubs are packed with people dancing around to sampled drum loops while the jazz clubs struggle to bring in the average listener. Most people don't think twice about what they are hearing, but the point of mediocrity keeps being dragged to new lows. Sorry DJs, but I hear endless monotony (def: 1 : tedious sameness; 2 : sameness of tone or sound). Good thing for you is girls will dance to just about ANYTHING and guys will follow them lookin to get laid.

P.S. I'd consider DJs librarians, not musicians. playing two records at once does not make you a musician. "Oh, but there's so much more to it than that!" LOL

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[bassexpander]

I have a Korean female friend who had bought into the whole rap-culture scene. She dresses like she's black, wears rap styles, and even cakes on the eye make-up like she's about to do a video with 50-cent.

She went on about how she likes the "ghetto style" army guys. She's really into that -- just goes nuts for them. Nearly all of these guys are of a lower rank, and many of them come from areas of the USA where most Americans would rather not live -- given the choice.

One day we were talking about money, and what "the ghetto" really was. I gave her Korean-oriented examples of the types of Korean guys that would equate to the ghetto-types in American culture. When I asked her if she would consider a Korean guy who came from a single-parent family with no money, a likelihood of debt, having no father around, a low level of education, from the deep city or the countryside, she said, "HELL NO!" I then explained that this is the American equivalent of the army "ghetto style" men she was dreaming of marrying.

I had to remind her that the low-ranking soldiers who are into the baggy pants, cap-on-sideways, chains, etc., are not the ones making any sort of money. As we spoke, I could see her little video-induced dream of rap-style riches deflate in her eyes.

Money matters a lot to Korean women. It just does.

[Nowhere Man]

I personally don't think there's such a thing as a bad genre.

I used to hate country, but that was more due to me being exposed exclusively to the crappy end of artists.

I can't say I've been listening to much recent hip-hop, so I don't really know what's out there atm. But consider that Hip-Hop/Rap whatever-you-wanna-call-it music has influenced music as varied as Beck, Rage Against the Machine, Soul Coughing, Tricky, RHCP, Morcheeba and played a significant role in the development of Trip-Hop and Acid Jazz to name only a few musical styles.

Is hip-hop in a slump right now? Could be. Tiberious would know better than me. But keep in mind rock was supposedly dead from some time in the late 70s until Nirvana turned up in the early 90's. In that same time period, you had the likes of Elvis Costello, Husker Du, Sonic Youth, the Pixies, and My Bloody Valentine cutting material that is now considered classic but was limited in terms of recognition and commercial success at the time it came out.

Somewhere, someone's probably dropping a bomb that no one's hearing.

Yet.

[Billy Pilgrim]

I don't like hip-hop at all, but I do like some old school rap bands like Public Enemy, NWA and A Tribe Called Quest.

[peppermint]

[Dome Vans]

[Dome Vans]

[itaewonguy]

yes im sick of it..
maybe because I am not 17 years old anymore.. but in those days
NWA, LL cool J, etc.. they really where the S H I T...
it kept flowing through the 90's but I think it was up and down in the late 90's and early 2000, and these days Its so hard to hear an original track or a good song, its not even worth listening to anymore..
I find myself listening to 70's and 80's parts for nostalgia but mostly becuase the songs in those days were GREAT!!

[yawarakaijin]

Hip Hop and Gangsta Rap. The worst thing that ever happened to black culture. The proverbial shooting yourself in the foot. Can someone tell me how "slapping around your bitch", referring to your women as HO's and glorifying violence was allowed to come to personify black culture?

[Masta_Don]