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[Plastic B]

So, Austin, you would stand by while a 6 foot plus footballer, beats a 5 foot plus girl would you? What if it was your sister? Or mother? Turkey

[Austin]

You are not understanding me.

I know my mother, and I would know my sister, if I had one.

You were talking about complete strangers. Moreover, you said she was thrown down the stairs, and you confronted him. If you were so concerned, why did not you go to check on the girl?

You can get between people without being confrontational. Sorry, but getting in a guy's face is only going to breed more pain for all involved.

[kiwiboy_nz_99]

[rapier]

PSYchedelic: Yeah, hate to say it but there haven't really been any Korean guys who've actually been genuine or interesting to hang out with. I just stopped bothering in the end. They're all of a certain formula: something like in the 50's, usually with BS attitudes or childish schoolboy type conversation..Whenever I occasionally get unavoidably stuck in conversation with one they're always like, "So you're 30 and aren't married?" or "Haha, this ugly waitress has no luck, Oi! Bring more kimchi, woman".. They are so quick to judge or make assumptions about a person and generally think along well- predictable lines. The younger generation aren't so bad but usually shy or anable to hold anything but the most stunted of conversations in English, which is a shame.
TANcred:I've only been here15 months. I'm not really angry...probably cos I avoid hanging out with korean guys! If I had to then I'd probably be annoyed or upset every day.
BUTTerfly:Generalisations can be useful sometimes. Of course not every man in korea is a wife beater. But I just don't find them interesting on the whole..I don't doubt that there are some cool Korean guys but after meeting millions of eejits I'm hardly about to keep holding out for the one or two that would make good mates out here.
Back to my original point: the ratio of korean men to women is still climbing. There'll come a time when the guys have to compete a bit harder to attract a bride- never mind that K-girls will be after foreign guys as a refreshing change. They will, have to become less possesive, more gentlemanly, more understanding, romantic, witty, laid back, more imaginative to attract Korean women. They may even end up "recruiting" brides from poor Asian countries to make up the numbers.
Hell, they might one day learn that missionary is not the only position, as well. Don't want to sound condescending, but its so obvious. What do you girls out there think???

[Kiddirts]

Austin, I can't described to you, the sick feelings that were going through my stomache when I see a 90 pound Korean girl getting thrown to the pavement, screaming in a ripped dressed while being choked and kicked by a big, fat drunk Korean man. I wasn't trying to be Captain America, but as a human being watching this happen five feet from you...I would have been pissed at myself for weeks for not doing anything...thinking that if I didn't step in, this lady in front of me woulda got kicked again and again...I mean, come on, bro...she's not a dog.
Also, I'm not as upset at the witnesses who did nothing as I am at the Police Officers who didn't even make this man step out of the taxi cab. Pretty much talked to him through the window...ridiculous.

[Homer]

[matko]

[Homer]

How do you know the opposite to be tru Matko?

I am not defending it here or taking a position. Just stating that abuse to women is not an easily quantifiable thing to measure.
also that just because you SEE it more here does not mean IT happens more. One must be careful about making such statements.
There is abuse to women here, it is more in the open, hence IT MAY seem like a bigger problem then in our home countries where the abuse is largely UNSEEN. Yet, it does exist and may be at comparable levels.

[The Great Wall of Whiner]

Plastic B wrote:

[Austin]

Kiddirt,

I have no doubt that you were upset by what you witnessed. Unfortunately, violence happens 24/7.

You claim to be concerned about complete strangers, but how sincere are you? Does your concern extend beyond your nose or should we consider this a random act?

I take it you do not believe that when a tree falls down in the forest with no person around that it does not make a sound?

Sorry, but if you were truly concerned about the violence in this world, you might try being a bit more proactive and actually dedicate your life to ridding the world of violence. Merely stepping in as you did might have made you feel better about yourself, but I am not certain why, as I do not see how you actually improved the situation.

You claim to be a human-being, so you should be well aware of the depths that we are capable of reaching. We are not perfect. We can kill, molest, torture, and beat our own with ease, and we are capable of creating life, nurturing, loving, and caring for them as well. Understanding that we are capable of all things, one would think that you would be able to accept the suffering in this world.

For some reason that has escaped you, and I am not sure why, but I hope you might care to respond and explain that one.

Do not get me wrong, I am not saying that some form of intervention might not have been helpful. I just have a problem with people getting all mighty and claiming to have an interest is stopping violence by creating more violence. After all, is it ever necessary to become confrontational, if all you want to do is help another person?

[vegetable]

Those are hard situations to be in.

Trying to calm someone down is hard to do.

I think the first priority should always be: are you putting youself in danger? Assess the situation and see what variables are involved. Weapons, other people possibility of danger to yourself. If you victimized as well you're going to be no use to anyone. Next how is the girl or the person that is getting beaten. Are they seriously hurt ? Are they in shock? If so get someone to call an ambulance or if nescessary help them yourself if it is lifethreatening.

Next preventing the person from harming the person involves making sure it doesn't happen again i.e simply protecting the victim or removing them from the situation.

Make sure you get bystanders involved in this. If you take charge of the situation you can direct others to help you. Quite often people won't get involved because they don't know what to do. Be direct and clear about who and what you want them to do. i.e. you in the blue shirt call an ambulance or take her to your car or the store etc.

Talking to the person who is angry and violent is the first and best way. Making them notice you by standing in their line of site with an open body but giving yourself and the other person lots of space. Be alert but not in attack position. Don't try to stop them from talking but get them distracted from the other person. Ask them questions about who they are and who the other person is, where they were ,where they are now, are there other people they know around, where do they live, are they hurt etc. Get them to talk to you and not the other person. Be re-assuring/be helpful to them as well. They need your help as much as the other person does. They need to stop their behaviour for their own sake as well.

Depending on the degree of danger involved I think it's best to focus on the victim and try if possible to remove her or him and yourself from the situation.

To be involved or not is probably just part of a person's character. I do it usually because I hate violence and seeing someone getting hurt physically. All that being said having a clear head about the situation and how much of a difference you can make to it also come into play.

Of course if it was someone I was close to it would be different than if it was a stranger. I think that's natural.

[Butterfly]

[mack the knife]

OBVIOUSLY a lot of you guys aren't from the States, where people REGULARLY get sued for being good samaritans. For instance, to successfully perform CPR, you often have to break a person's breastplate. Person saved. Good deed is done. Move along, right? WRONG. See you in court.

[desultude]

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